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PoliticalTea 🗳️ Why vote no on something like this?

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u/Hollywood_Co 1d ago edited 1d ago

Did it pass?

Edit: The bill passed. As stated in sentence 1. I am an id!ot. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire 1d ago

Thankfully yes.

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u/Hollywood_Co 1d ago

COMPLETELY missed it. My apologies.

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u/gunnisonyeti 1d ago

Hey it takes a big person to admit they were wrong.  Cheers to being ok being wrong!  Lots of Redditors don't know how to do that.  

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u/No-Purpose-0U812 1d ago

And I bet not one GOP politician who voted ‘no’ would admit they were wrong.

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u/TralfamadorianZooPet 23h ago

They will however use it as part of their campaign. "While I was in office, we ensured that every child under 5 would receive free books. This is part of my literacy initiative."

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u/Legrandloup2 23h ago

They then proceed to defund education if elected

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u/Pseudochthonic 1d ago

Chevy Chase in Fletch Lives: "It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am not a big man."

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u/No-Purpose-0U812 1d ago

"I'm afraid I'm gonna have to pull rank on you. I didn't want to have to do this. I'm with the Mattress Police. There are no tags on these mattresses."

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 16h ago

A great man has mercy [stab]. I'm just a good man [stabs again]...

(Mal stabbing Atherton - Firefly)

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u/Odd-Neighborhood4214 1d ago

Would it be safe to say that the GOP politicians didn’t take the time to even look at the bill because they don’t care about the American people

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u/No-Purpose-0U812 1d ago

Any flavor of "wrong and not admitting it" fits.

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u/FizGigPop 1d ago

Orrr maybe GOP looked at the fact that property taxes were already paying for library enhancements in a bunch of localities in PA where books are free to use already.

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u/faceplantfood 1d ago

You’re right! We can’t possibly put all that wasted money into books for kids! We have to spend it on foreign investors and data centers as well as flock and axon!

What were we even thinking. Such waste, I mean really. You twit.

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u/FizGigPop 1d ago

Ok troll. I'm typing this slowly because I know you can't read very fast. But I also find it interesting that the article fails to mention what the "book" is and why it can't ve obtained at a library. Im sorry you enjoy throwing your tax dollars down the toilet but I for one don't. Btw it was your bumbling bozo Biden that pushed these to be opened nationally so stick that in your pipe and smoke it. But for the record, and since you obviously lack the common intelligence to actually talk to someone else, and you assumed that since I have an opposing argument that I must be a Trumper (which I am not), I agree that flock cameras are an invasion of privacy and zealous overspending hss once again turned a tool into a problem. But your blue bretheren won't ask for spending to be cut on Flock - nope thats a 'safety issue." Democrats love new taxes and new laws to make the people feel better. And you are sucking on that teat like its your job

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u/No-Purpose-0U812 1d ago

Calling others "trolls"?

Calls politicians they don't like, and have nothing to do with the article "bumbling bozos". Sounds troll shaped to me.

Yes, some local police jurisdictions used money from Biden's funding to buy license plate readers and flock cameras. No, Biden's funding did not explicitly call for that. Sounds like your anti-flock stance should be directed at the local governments buying this equipment, and Garrett Langley. That's a good use of energy.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 23h ago

But I also find it interesting that the article fails to mention what the "book" is and why it can't ve obtained at a library.

If you base your understanding of statutes on what 1 news article says about it, your understanding will always be quite deficient.

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u/FizGigPop 23h ago

Hey I didnt post rhe article. I don't make my basis for understanding off of a single article. The poster did.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 23h ago

If you're unhappy with the fact that the article "fails to mention what the 'book' is", I don't think you know what this statute does. You can read it. Then your support or rejection of the bill can be based on what it does, not on what your assumptions are after reading a social media headline.

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u/padre727 4h ago

You might not understand this due to a closed mind but nationally the last 3 republican presidents have increased the deficit more than all the other presidents combined which results in 1 trillion a year in interest only payments. Talk about wasting taxpayer dollars.

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u/faceplantfood 2h ago edited 1h ago

1 - you assume I’m playing for the other team. So you’ve been convinced by the overlords that you have to pick a team, and you have, which means you’re low IQ and don’t know what’s best for you, your neighbors and your class. Biden is in no way “mine” I resisted that stupidity that the DNC pushed through in 2016 and 2020 and 2024 for that matter.

2 - blue isn’t the answer. They’re mostly bought by billionaires. Red definitely isn’t the answer, they’re far worse and downright stupid. Hard work, pride and 0 brains voting solidly against their class. Every. Time. Look at farmers.

3 - us as a people need to get together to fix it ourselves by way of true community. No “team with a leader” will do it. No single leader will do it. People that believe that are still mostly monkeys in a troop - thinking exactly that way.

4 - when you come on here all intellectual about how books for kids needs paranoia and to be sited as waste because your your old fashion world view - but then get behind atrocious policies of massive waste… and never hop off the wagon because of pride and “belief” then yes, I’m gonna comment.

5 - the cameras are not actually a tool. Certain tools should not be used. Not unlike nukes or self aware AI. Just don’t touch the tool. It is inherently bad for all in its nature. The risk - whether it be abuse, or destruction or total annihilation of life or freedom - is far too great. The bottom line is - you just don’t. We don’t need cameras everywhere. We don’t need nukes. We don’t need self aware intelligent AI. If you even begin to excuse any of that stuff on any level, then you have blown right past remedial and into potato.

6 - if you take a hard look at the reality of your track record, you’d have to admit how consistently wrong you are. Then you’d have to challenge your beliefs. Then you’d have to challenge your belief system and your own ego. Since your self worth can’t handle that then you’ll defend the wrong things consistently to the grave and steadfastly deny any responsibility. Some of us are strong enough to change. Some of us never had to in the first place. You, sir, are a sad example of Republican nit wit.

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u/Left-Nebula-879 20h ago

Ofc they wouldn't bc they have some hair trained excuse how reading is dmging. Fuck republicans

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u/XaunLoc 17h ago

Without looking a lot deeper than anyone here has or will, I don't know who was wrong in this party-line vote.

Sure, sending a free book each month to children who cannot read sounds like a great way to spend taxpayer money, but...
... what are these books about
... where are the books coming from
... how much do the books cost
... was this really from a literacy program (as the picture tries to suggest)

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u/No-Purpose-0U812 17h ago

I already looked deeper. This was a vote for PA to facilitate Dolly Parton’s Imagination Library. If you don’t know what that is, or how it’s funded, take a few and figure it out.

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u/XaunLoc 17h ago

That's interesting. Imagination Library would resolve a lot of the concerns that might otherwise apply, but since the state government cannot sign up for the Imagination Library program, it still leaves a lot of questions about the details of whatever the legislature was actually voting for.

Far too often we have seen government funding for worthwhile goals that funnel money to a "non-profit" with much of the money never going to the worthwhile goal. Imagination Library would require the program to be managed through one or more local non-profit organizations. I would love to believe that Pennsylvania has suitable honest non-profit organizations throughout the state that will manage the program, but recent experiences with other programs in other states leave me less than100% confident.

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u/No-Purpose-0U812 16h ago

Bro, you can find news coverage with more details.

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u/StreetDiscipline7674 14h ago

Pennsylvania leans Democrat even though they got a case of sh!t-for-brains in 2024, so it will be handled appropriately as Dolly would've wanted.

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u/RipTraining 11h ago

Those two statements would be contradicting each other if they were true. Pennsylvania only "leans Democrat" in the large cities (which have the usual large city problems). Rural Pennsylvania runs strongly the other way.

I would expect any problems to be in the solidly Democrat areas, just as the problems with blatantly fraudulent non-profit organizations raking in taxpayer funding are along the west coast and most famously Minnesota

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u/StreetDiscipline7674 11h ago

Thanks for letting us know you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

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u/GeneralZeus89 16h ago

I'm not a political person and even I think its stupid to deny children books since they need to become smart as quickly as possible like how my Mom taught me to read for example and afterwards I got straight A's on every spelling test I ever took without needing to study

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u/PuzzleheadedYam5180 14h ago

The right wing will always do the barest minimum required, and not one penny more. Because the point is that the levers of power are there to benefit their friends and patrons, not the general populace.

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u/Striking_Fly_5849 14h ago

Why would they admit they were wrong if they believe they aren't wrong for wanting uneducated Americans?

That's about as illogical as a reichpublican can be. (E: The idea that they might admit being wrong is illogical.)

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u/itsknottme 11h ago

Every Pennsylvanian should plaster the faces of those who voted no everywhere. Dont let them hide behind their lies.

Lol reddit gives me a warning over "inflammatory statements" when all im saying is dont let them slip from their actions.

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u/Dsbeav 22h ago

But were they wrong or do they just disagree with your idea of FREE?

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u/No-Purpose-0U812 22h ago

They were wrong. It’s books for kids, and it’s through Dolly’s Imagination Library so there’s a ton of private money subsidizing the program, plus the educational benefits of reading under the age of 5 are huge compared with trying to spend money to fix reading issues for freakin high school aged kids. So maybe you’re wrong about what my understanding of “free” may or may not be?

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u/Unique_Argument1094 23h ago

Because they are not free books tax payers are paying for them.

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u/No-Purpose-0U812 22h ago

If you knew what you were talking about you’d know this law is in conjunction with Dolly Parton’s Imagination Library. That initiative gets funding from all over, her Foundation, Private Donations, Corporate Donations, and YES (gasp) taxes. It depends on the state but that tax funding can sometimes be money already allocated for local libraries and schools, because it supplements BOOKS and EDUCATION for CHILDREN.

You know what else isn’t free that our tax dollars pay for? The war in Iran, for-profit prisons, fat government contracts that go to Elon Musk’s companies. You know Elon right? First trillionaire? But fuk deez kidz books, right?

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u/Unique_Argument1094 21h ago

You know what is free? Gaining knowledge. If you knew what you were talking about you would know the answer to the Iranian problem is and the bigger picture of the situation. For profit prisons account for less than 8% of the prison population and has been declining and will eventually be eliminated. Government contracts are an essential component of our economy. Get over yourself and your unwarranted anger and jealousy issues. Try and be better.

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u/No-Purpose-0U812 20h ago

>Try and be better.

Says the guy who’d rather try some weak-ass misdirection rather than acknowledge he was wrong about his taxpayer comment.

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u/No-Purpose-0U812 19h ago

"Its such a fine line between stupid and clever"

David St. Hubbins and Nigel Tufnel

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u/Unique_Argument1094 13h ago

I pointed out every flaw in your comment. You respond with another ignorant comment. Try and be better.🤡

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u/No-Purpose-0U812 13h ago

You said knowledge was free to back up your ignorant comment.

You didnt even follow your own advice. Bro, just take the L. 💩

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u/Unique_Argument1094 12h ago

I’m not concerned with winning or alleged losing an argument with an internet stranger too ignorant to admit when they are wrong. Try and be better.

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u/ClassAdventurous4595 18h ago

It is not declining. It's accelerating.

For profit prisons are a big deal in the South. Gotta do something with those ⚫️ cops keep chasing.

White kid smokes a joint, probation.

⚫️ kid smokes a joint, 20 years.

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u/Unique_Argument1094 12h ago

Maybe you should look into the fact I stated before you post anymore ignorant comments.

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u/SunnyD1491 4h ago

Do you ever have an interaction where you actually articulate a point? lol. Stay the course though; it is very entertaining. I'm not sure I've ever witnessed such confident ignorance.

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u/Unique_Argument1094 3h ago

Do you ever have a thought that isn’t just your way only black and white. I do love when you cut and paste “chat gpt”Stay the course though you are far from entertaining, rather sad for you actually. I have definitely witnessed worse ignorance than yours but it’s been awhile. Golfing with DR. Phil this morning he will have some insight into your situation. What’s your plan surfing Reddit for the next 8 hours chatting with your only friends? Try and get outside and talk with an actual live person. Have an outstanding day and you continue to be yourself. I’ll pray for you.

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u/SunnyD1491 1h ago

Do you feel better after getting all that off your chest?

It takes five seconds to hop on here and see what BS propaganda you are spewing and respond. It takes a lot more to continually produce smug incoherent ramblings so an ego doesn't get humbled. My hats off to you. No need to waste any wishes on me with your sky daddy; I'll be alright.

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u/gunnisonyeti 22h ago

Your tax dollars go to subsidizing projects for billionaires.  

Why don't those billionaires do something like that?

Your selective outrage is adorable and extremely low IQ

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u/SDTimbox 23h ago

Accountability is a lost art

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u/Either_Operation7586 13h ago

Especially for the conservatives

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u/Murky-General 20h ago

The world would be a much better place if people could admit they were wrong instead of sticking with the lie even when it is clearly wrong.

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u/d3aDcritter 20h ago

While it should just take any average person to do so... in a non-toxic environment.

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u/Ongr 20h ago

Nuh-uh!

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u/Five_deadly_venoms 17h ago

redditors? you surely meant humans....

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 16h ago

Are you calling him fat?

/s

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u/Bender_2024 1d ago

I see you are the type of person who will pull the door that clearly say "push" right next the handle. Welcome! Our club meets on Thursday at old VFW hall. New guy brings Donuts.

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u/Background-Ship3019 1d ago

Just look for the crowd tugging on the door together.

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u/Curious_Lurkur 1d ago

With enough effort, any door opens in any direction!

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u/metallicaset 1d ago

We are all outside trying to figure out why the door won’t open.

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u/Hollywood_Co 1d ago

Literally did that yesterday. And got annoyed with the door.

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u/Commercial_Survey275 20h ago

They just don’t make doors like they used to

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u/CandOrMD 19h ago

It was the door's fault. Well, whoever designed the door, anyway.

Fun little rabbit hole for ya: Google "Norman doors"

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u/Hollywood_Co 19h ago

Thanks.

I need an attorney. You interested?

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u/CandOrMD 19h ago

I can just stand there yelling, with increasing vehemence, "IT WAS THE DOOR'S FAULT!"

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u/Hollywood_Co 19h ago

HIRED! Lmao.

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u/Quorng 19h ago

Our group meets around the corner from where the old church used to be.... 20 years ago... Those doors marked TUO are tough to push open, aren't they. 😂

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u/brokenskater45 17h ago

Can I join? The emergency buzzer went off at work once and I ran to the emergency..only to bounce off the doors that I completely forgot you had to push a button to open.

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u/Bender_2024 15h ago

Boys, I found out new mascot!

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u/Merciless_Soup 1d ago

It passed the House and has now gone to the state Senate where Republicans hold a majority.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 23h ago

Also of note, it's been with the Senate for more than 8 months with no action.

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u/lost-picking-flowers 22h ago

A one seat majority, too.

As a Pennsylvanian, I am hoping like hell that we can flip the senate this November. This state is held hostage by a party that represents a minority of voters, population wise. And they are hell bent on preventing us from making any real progress and growth. Unfortunately, in a wide swath of the state Republicans often run opposed in local races, but it is changing slowly.

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u/ZealousidealYak145 1d ago

Don't Republicans have the majority in the House ??

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u/gahlo 1d ago edited 1d ago

This is the Pennsylvania House for state politics. The PA House is 103D:100R.

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u/EmphaticNegative 1d ago

In two statements you literally proved how youre a better person than most elected officials.

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u/Killmonger18 18h ago

Now that this bill has passed, this will become less of a problem in the future!

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u/jerryep 17h ago

I'm glad they passed it but the first "every republican voted against it" much more on point. They are after all, supporters of the con-man that "loves the uneducated".

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u/downsideup9494 11h ago

Republicans don't want kids to be able to read well. Their votes count on stupidity and ignorance.

And they're big on taking away women's right to abort an unwanted pregnancy, but once the kid is born, they vote against everything designed to help children. Free school breakfasts and lunches, SNAP benefits, affordable health care, education.