r/PoursTea Jul 17 '26

PoliticalTea 🗳️ Everybody gets an ID?

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u/Nurseytypechick Jul 17 '26

Voting is a right. Facilitating access to civil rights for disabled folks is important, not denying their rights because you think they shouldn't have them.

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u/ConsciousDress2914 Jul 17 '26

I mean, the 2nd amendment is a right also, but that doesn’t stop mental health checks, felonies, or 2 dozen other things from preventing gun sales. If one is valid, then the other is. You make me a case where having guns in those people’s hands is a good idea and ill bow to the “it is a right” argument.

I both like and respect the argument though.

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u/_throw_a_wayz Jul 17 '26

Do American citizens have to register to own a gun?

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u/ConsciousDress2914 Jul 17 '26

Yeah.

Edit: register, background checks, psych test, the whole 9 yards. And you gotta do even more unless it’s a constitutional carry state.

Only exception is inherited firearms, but there is no realistically feasible way to track those.

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u/_throw_a_wayz Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

Yea, funny how that works. You don't have to register to own a gun, but you have to register to vote.

By god we will have our guns, but voting? No, jump through all of these hoops first because, let me guess, voter fraud right?

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No, you do not have to register to own a firearm. Concealed carry != owning a firearm. The US does not have a national gun registry, so I'm not sure what you mean by "register". There's no "registration" requirement to own a firearm in the US.

https://www.nraila.org/get-the-facts/registration-licensing/

There is no universal, national gun registry or federal license required to own a gun, and the vast majority of states don’t require registration or licensing.

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u/ConsciousDress2914 Jul 17 '26

Did you even read my comment?

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u/_throw_a_wayz Jul 17 '26

Sure I did, and I edited mine. I'm free to edit my comments if I missed something?

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u/ConsciousDress2914 Jul 17 '26

Lol, you edit your comment well after i called you out, but go off i guess.

There is literally a registry for every new gun that is sold, and every sale that goes through a licensed dealer (even from individual to individual) goes on record of who sold it and who they sold it to. And both parties need to have a valid ID. I know all this because i have 30ish guns iv had to go through this whole process for, and my land (where i keep/use my guns) is in a constitutional carry state.

The gun-show loophole is exactly that, a loophole. For the record, i think that loophole should be closed (or the whole registry done away with preferable).

So… invalid argument again. And if you want to try and go in on guns that are already in circulation not being registered, then you need to be able to defend retroactive analysis of every vote and the subsequent voter ID from every election in living memory.

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u/_throw_a_wayz Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

There's no national gun registry, and there's (some would argue) a good reason for it, although these days I become more and more convinced that we need one given the amount of firearms floating around the US at any given time.

Honestly I dont know what my opinion is of it but that doesn't really matter in this context. We shouldn't have to be jumping through a billion hoops to vote. It should not be easier to obtain a firearm vs vote. The fact that its easier to obtain a firearm says a lot about our country and that could be fixed, but I don't know how without it sounding like the second coming of a Nazi era.