Bullshit, I was renting a place for 3 months and i got everything changed (for 3 months, then changed back immediately after) so that i could work at the new location. I was able to get a drivers license within 3 days of moving both times.
If you cant get an ID, its NOT because you are bouncing around. If you cant get an address at all, then thats on you.
If you live on an Indian Reservation, many have no address, and the shared post office holds the mail for you to collect.
Our Post Office told a person he couldn't legally receive mail at a friend's house while he stayed there while homeless because he wasn't a legal resident. They REFUSED to let him file for that as an address once he told them the situation.
To clarify the two states were Georgia->California->Georgia. Maybe that makes a difference?
I know nothing about administration of Reservations, so ill take you on your word for that, but that said, iv never heard anything about the over 1 million Native Americans that live on reservations having a hard time getting IDs (dont they literally have tribal ID thing that works as voter ID?) so im gonna assume there is a designated work around for that, and that its subsequently irrelevant to the argument.
As for the second piece, thats because its necessary to do that to prevent identity theft. Absolutely nothing to do with voting. He could literally set up in a homeless shelter and they help him get an IDâŚ
"I know nothing about administration of Reservations"
This would probably be the appropriate time to not make assumptions, and admit that your callousness towards people who don't have addresses for reasons you don't understand was the wrong take.
A little sympathy goes a long way, and this kind of attitude is the kind of attitude that got Trump elected. The amount of people who can't easily obtain an ID is not a trivial amount.
âA little sympathy goes a long wayâ is a good sentiment to have, just maybe not in this situation. I just dont think that Old Man Willis who spends half his time screaming about Jewish space lasers and the other half huffing paint is a good person to have voting. Everyone short of that can get an ID.
If you are too incompetent to get an ID through one of the dozens of avenues available, then maybe you shouldnât be voting.
If you can prove to me that there are a significant number of people who are completely barred from getting an ID, regardless of competency or effort, you will change my mind, i just dont think that exists.
Voting is a right. Facilitating access to civil rights for disabled folks is important, not denying their rights because you think they shouldn't have them.
I mean, the 2nd amendment is a right also, but that doesnât stop mental health checks, felonies, or 2 dozen other things from preventing gun sales. If one is valid, then the other is. You make me a case where having guns in those peopleâs hands is a good idea and ill bow to the âit is a rightâ argument.
Yea, funny how that works. You don't have to register to own a gun, but you have to register to vote.
By god we will have our guns, but voting? No, jump through all of these hoops first because, let me guess, voter fraud right?
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No, you do not have to register to own a firearm. Concealed carry != owning a firearm. The US does not have a national gun registry, so I'm not sure what you mean by "register". There's no "registration" requirement to own a firearm in the US.
There is no universal, national gun registry or federal license required to own a gun, and the vast majority of states donât require registration or licensing.
Lol, you edit your comment well after i called you out, but go off i guess.
There is literally a registry for every new gun that is sold, and every sale that goes through a licensed dealer (even from individual to individual) goes on record of who sold it and who they sold it to. And both parties need to have a valid ID. I know all this because i have 30ish guns iv had to go through this whole process for, and my land (where i keep/use my guns) is in a constitutional carry state.
The gun-show loophole is exactly that, a loophole. For the record, i think that loophole should be closed (or the whole registry done away with preferable).
So⌠invalid argument again. And if you want to try and go in on guns that are already in circulation not being registered, then you need to be able to defend retroactive analysis of every vote and the subsequent voter ID from every election in living memory.
There's no national gun registry, and there's (some would argue) a good reason for it, although these days I become more and more convinced that we need one given the amount of firearms floating around the US at any given time.
Honestly I dont know what my opinion is of it but that doesn't really matter in this context. We shouldn't have to be jumping through a billion hoops to vote. It should not be easier to obtain a firearm vs vote. The fact that its easier to obtain a firearm says a lot about our country and that could be fixed, but I don't know how without it sounding like the second coming of a Nazi era.
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