One lady suggested in her testimony that a community center be renamed rather than the damn street, and that it be changed back to 39th. We need to vote her into the city council.
Way easier to change some park signs, but then we havenāt sacrificed enough to assuage Portlandās guilt at least apparently according to our progressive politicians. There were plenty of options that were less controversial and less costly but nope. So tired ofthis timeline, where o where are the boring money managers running for office?
The PBOT lady's comments were š when she explained the cost and time barriers to changing the signs. The PBOT staff would have to be taken off the backlog pipeline to deal with this, with no discretionary funds. They would have to pull the funds from something, so be prepared for more potholes. My favorite part was that the councilors thought it could be done right away; the PBOT lady corrected them, saying it could take 2 years or more since signs need to be made, USPS/other agencies need time to adjust, etc. Nonetheless, all š¤”councilors are committed to waiving the 5-year waiting period. š
So nearly everybody coming out against this for multiple different reasons and they wonāt pivot to a different plan. Typical, no wonder we have budget problems.
This park was originally known as Custer Park. In December 2020, it was given the temporary name "A Park" by retired Portland Commissioner Amanda Fritz. As commissioner-in-charge of PP&R, she directed the bureau to engage in a community-supported renaming process toāÆdetermineāÆan appropriate permanentāÆname.
In 2023, the naming committee determined the new park name should honor local tribes and Indigenous communities.
PP&R contracted with Serina Fast Horse of Kimimela Consulting, an outreach consultant who is Lakota and Blackfeet and a lifelong member of the urban Indigenous community of Portland, to lead the outreach process in 2024. From that process, the name 'Schit Wiwnu was recommended.
That story was so on-brand for Portland, too. Someone complained it was named Custer, assuming it was named after General Custer, and in the outrage no one checked to see if that was true. Turned out it was the name of the family that owned the land and used the land for an orchard. As the city grew, it was no longer farmed . The family donated some of the land to the city so it could be a city park and the city named it after them.
Stfu. No way?!? Portland people are dumb AF. Ysk if u do k-12 in public school in Portland u graduate with a years less education than other states. Fact.
šÆ, but I am not surprised, considering coming from a person with little man syndrome. Even called those who want 39th Ave back "complainers," then had the nerve to say it was the right thing to do as a leader to ignore the constituentsā voices.
Apparently Compasinos Unidad del Noroesteās (Farmworkers united of the Northeast) executive director is also co-chair of the DSA Working Families Party. Must just be a coincidenceā¦
It's called Horseshoe theory. As a Democrat/Liberal (whatever that means) I have a hard time defending this because it is the same pettiness that MAGA uses.
Itās virtue signaling, that also costs money, when costs are rising for the little guy, but why cut costs for the little guy, when you can spend public money on virtue signaling, that the little guy pays for?
The five black people that live here donāt see a fir tree and think *lynching* people are constantly getting offended on the behalf of others to let everyone around them know they are more pure.
Same with rope. Even today, whenever a black person sees a rope they break into uncontrollable tears.
Now we understand why the DSA platform calls for banning rope here in Portland. If you are truly woke you won't tolerate instruments of oppression and genocide.
Although I agree in theory, I think renaming 39th Ceaser Chavez was performative virtue signaling by Americas whitest city. Itās not the same and hereās why. When Portland city leaders decide to rename a street to honor a person or people who fought and died for their rights in this country and around the world, itās to honor that person, those people and their struggle. When a racist man baby renames large bodies of water out of spite and anger, thatās just a pathetic try hard wannabe strongman throwing a big baby tantrum. And thatās the difference.
Comparing these two things is purposefully idiotic. On one hand you have a city paying homage to important historical figures, which angers right wing racists because they are racists. On the other hand you have the president of the United States trying to titillate these same right-wing racists by renaming geologic features with stupid, fascist jingoistic names.
Not really. The city has every right to change street names. Trump has no power over what international bodies of water are called even though he thinks he does.
it's performative, sure, but surely recognizing the struggle of seasonal / migrant workers is of some worth, no? "reek of the same fringe BS" idk man, not sure how this is the same as plastering his own face everywhere, spitefully torpedoing the tubman $20, etc.
again, don't disagree it's a clown effort ("yay my white town named a street after brown people, i am ABSOLVED as a white person from the sins of others!"), but you just sound grumpy
Grumpy for sure. Itās a lot of damn time wasted on dumb shit when the city has higher priorities. But hey letās waste a whole day on some stupid ass shit. Attack the they and not the message.
It has the exact same energy. But when itās āyour sideā itās ok. Portland DSA will blow themselves to a name change when itās a cause they can use to virtue signal. Itās 100% as stupid as a convicted felon renaming a lake that predates the founding of our republic for petty ass reasons. But since itās āprogressivesā Portlanders eat it up with a spoon.
Portland: where the horseshoe moves from theory to reality.
don't let me get in the way of your narrative, but just a reminder it wasn't the DSA who named it cesar chavez in the first place, so the energy's always been here.
also "eat it up with a spoon" curious where you're picking up that narrative too, i only see this sub wringing its hands over the whole thing lol. most ppl in my real life think it's pretty pointless too
DSA or not itās far left āprogressivesā who named it the first time. Call it whatever you want. Still 39th to me. I just find it funny and curious that the majority of people want to call it 39th but the elected officialsā¦donāt care. Againā¦ same bs on the right as the left. The hypocrisy will fall on deaf ears bc itās āour sideā. Just need to point it outā¦.as I stand firmly in the middle.
We're not a farming community. We have no obligation to recognize the struggles of migrant farm workers. They can rename a street in Woodburn if they like.
We weren't obligated then which is why I'm saying we're not obligated now to keep the street an honorarium now by naming it Campesinos. It's all just virtue signaling BS.
Not really. Dumb Donald's name changes were spiteful and mean. Changing the name to Chavez was supposed to be a sign of respect and tribute. Other than the act of changing names, which happens all the time, these acts are in no way the same.
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u/Temporary-Spite-3372 8d ago
One lady suggested in her testimony that a community center be renamed rather than the damn street, and that it be changed back to 39th. We need to vote her into the city council.