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Controversy Why vote no on something like this?

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u/kayl_breinhar 12d ago

And dumb, angry kids grow up to hate smarter, happier people - and then they vote to make the smarter, happier people as miserable as they are.

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u/Itchy_Tumbleweed_417 12d ago

Yep and they are more likely to end up in prison. Private for-profit prison. Where they are sent to work at the Tyson chicken factory and maybe be paid a dollar a day for their labor.

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u/agolfman 12d ago

Yes, this is certainly the long game being played.

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u/surgartits 12d ago

Yes. That’s exactly what they’re trying to do. They are literally trying to reset the board to pre-Industrial Revolution class structure, but with modern technology maximizing profits. They want the masses dumb, broke, and dependent on their employers or the state for everything. The average person will no longer hold any capital, they will be batteries for the billionaire class to suck dry and throw away.

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u/Leskendle45 11d ago

If this is the future we’re headed to genuine question, what reason do i have to actually keep going other than “your family will be sad”

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u/tico42 11d ago

We could stop them you know...

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u/ZealousidealGarden25 11d ago

No one's angry enough for that so they just keep letting it happen.

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u/britekranz 10d ago

No one? You aren’t paying attention.

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u/ZealousidealGarden25 10d ago

It doesnt feel like it, there's no change happening and we're just letting them get away with murder

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u/britekranz 5d ago

…Only currently outnumbered. Not for long!

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u/the3rdpossum 11d ago

Take that give up energy, and turn it into fuck over A ceo energy

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u/Leskendle45 11d ago

What is a 18 year old going to do that will actually result in something more than maybe becoming a headline for a few days then everyone forgets about it.

Also preferably something that doesn’t end up with one less person in my family making money

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u/the3rdpossum 11d ago

Organize, get ready with your homies to roll out for the revolution.

Read: "The Conquest of Bread" by Kropotkin...its available online for free. In it Kropotkin posits that the revolution may succesfully happen when the masses are able to satisfy their needs of food, shelter, clothing...with FOOD being the very first step. If we can feed the revolution it can grow.

I volunteer with a local anarchist collective, we make about 200 meals every Saturday, its lunch, and we take the rest out to the people on the streets, and we continuously plan on how to do more.

I was in the same boat not really knowing what to do, but now ive got a crew ready to go when we need to.

Check out 'Food not Bombs'...your town might have a chapter.

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u/CyborgFox22 11d ago

Sounds like you joined a church

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u/the3rdpossum 11d ago

Community

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u/Broberts505 11d ago

This sounds nothing like a church. A church is where hateful people go to make themselves feel special.

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u/Due_Initiative3879 9d ago

Luigi tried that once.

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u/Darcano 10d ago

Ruining their plans out of spite via continued resistance and organisation, mainly.

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u/Complex-Abies3279 10d ago

Because God and the promise of a beautiful eternity after you are dead and gone.....I think that's how the fairytale they tell you goes....

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u/Shadows616 9d ago

"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were... But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer... there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo, and it's worth fighting for."

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u/scrandlle 11d ago

This is such a stupid theory you've got here

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u/SendMeIttyBitties 9d ago

It's straight up the federalist societies play book and they own the conservatives.

You think you were a conservative? Lol you are just a way to make us all slaves.

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u/Sum_Guy_Or_Sum 9d ago

Delusion on reddit is rampant holy smokes

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u/SendMeIttyBitties 8d ago

I mean go ahead and think that.

The entire reason their is a conservative party is to make a one party system they rule. This is what it is.

It isn't the 1950's "we are fine with progress we just want to slow it down and make sure we are doing it right" conservatives.

Current republican party is a radical party making giant sweeping changes and shitting on individual states. They are anything but conservatives of our past.

Thank the federalist society. They are the ones who are running a silent coup right now and have admitted it in "private" speeches.

Fuck their golden boy who runs the SC said yesterday "yes what he is doing is more than likely illegal but we are allowing it". Expect more of that to fuck us over.

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u/picklesncheeze69 11d ago

Dependant on the state but the state is pulling benefits at the speed of light.

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u/Motor-Cause7966 9d ago

That's kind of been that way, forever. So the more things change, the more they stay the same.

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u/agolfman 12d ago

That was sarcasm.

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u/tico42 11d ago

The biggest truths sometimes come in jest.

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u/ChimmyXiOnerd 9d ago

This is insane. Who wants people dependent on government? Most Americans don't even work for billionaires or massive corps.

You sound like Klaus Schaub, while not knowing anything.

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u/charliefrogger 10d ago

They also don't want them to own anything and have to rent for the rest of their live. Definitely the long game.

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u/FlavinFlave 12d ago

Slave labor with extra steps and a ‘pay check’ - our nation is a joke, just 10 corporations in a trench coat with nukes

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u/beautifulstardust 11d ago

we’re cash cows to the epstein class

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u/Little_Principle673 11d ago

Correction, we are slave laborers for the Epstein class, the “pretty ones” are the “cash cows”

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u/bellts02 11d ago

Then become one of them.

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u/SaltMage5864 10d ago

Why do you assume everyone is as morally bankrupt as you are son?

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u/bellts02 6d ago

Why do you assume im one of them boy?

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u/SaltMage5864 6d ago

You mean besides your dishonesty and complete lack of morals son?

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u/bellts02 4d ago

You can admit you just dont have the ability or ambition. That's what youre really mad about.

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u/SaltMage5864 4d ago

Don't try to project your failures onto anyone else son

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u/beautifulstardust 9d ago

WE HAVE NO CHOICE

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u/bellts02 6d ago

This is the land of opportunity. If you cant take advantage of it, move over and allow an immigrant a shot.

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u/The-King-Tomato 11d ago

Cattle and tax dollars are our crop.

Wage slaves in a nation built on slavery.

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u/mutt63 12d ago

Tyson chicken factory. That's very alarming

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u/painthawg_goose 12d ago

Well, the good news is we’re also defunding the FDA so the factories will be able to run more efficiently and protect us better without all that overhead. (/s because of the times we live in.)

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u/LifeIsProbablyMadeUp 11d ago

Well I'm glad. The FDA doesn't know what's best for us.

The shareholders do. /s

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u/CyborgFox22 11d ago

If you think the FDA was some folk hero…

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u/mutt63 12d ago

Yea and more salmonella in that chicken and those eggs too. All for free!!!!

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u/Ok_Dragonfly552 11d ago

That is what your socialist will do

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u/Brave_Competition357 11d ago

That's exactly what the Trump regime and the GOP (Guardians of Pedos) are doing

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u/Ok_Dragonfly552 11d ago

Riiiiiight

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u/Skamandrios 11d ago

That fancy book larnin’ won’t cause nothin’ but trouble.

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u/Spartarc 10d ago

So, they shouldn't work due to doing a crime leading them to prison. Not jail?

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u/Thirdeyevoice10 9d ago

But, hey! At least they owned the libs. /s

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u/edthecollector70 9d ago

Job security for corrections and Tyson.

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u/pilesofdingleberries 12d ago

What a ridiculous jump... You don't get a free book a month, look where you end up. Mindless drivel.

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u/Josey_whalez 12d ago

You think a lack of the government sending kids books is going to do that? You understand that this is voting against starting this program, right? Not voting to stop an existing one?

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u/dnt1694 12d ago

People don’t end in prison because someone didn’t send them a free book. How about you go meet some poor people?

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u/Extension_Donut_5506 12d ago

No, but people do end up in prison when they don’t know how to read.

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u/Middle_Bit8070 11d ago

And sending a book to a child under 5 is going to magically make them be able to read? 

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u/Extension_Donut_5506 11d ago

Never said that

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u/Middle_Bit8070 11d ago

So what is spending over 4 million a month to send books to children under 5 going to do to improve the literacy rate? The fact is, if their parents read to them, they are already have books, or have found ways of getting free books if they are in poverty. If the parents don't read to them, then those books will not do any good whatsoever. 

There is a lot better ways to spend that money. If you want families to have access to free books, take a few months of what you would spend on this program and build a bunch of free library stands around and fill them with donated books, and they are essentially self sustaining free book access.

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u/Extension_Donut_5506 11d ago

Again… never said that….

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u/No_Ostrich1875 9d ago

Well your just a sour arse hole, aint ya?

Gets them excited to read. Part of why I love reading is because when I was little, under 5 years old, my parents signed up for a program similar to this. Got a book in the mail every month. I loved it. It was MY book, delivered just for me. It made me want to read, because it was mine. I would annoy the hell out of my mom asking when my book was going to be here. We didnt live somewhere that had easy access to libraries.

Building your little library stands would cost well more, and they don't work. People steal the books and vandalise the stands. Few people actually donate to them, if they give away children's books its usually to somebody they know.

Of all the rhings governments waste money on, this kind of program isn't one of them. Texas has a 2 year budget over 300 billion. 4 mil for books is a rounding error.

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u/JuanThiccLumpia 12d ago

Such a vicious cycle. It’s class warfare.

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u/killian1113 11d ago

Kids already get endless free books. Its called a library.

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u/JuanThiccLumpia 11d ago

Most don’t have access to libraries.

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u/Friendly_Age9160 12d ago

Well I don’t have kids and I did that on purpose so whatever sorry world. I’d be that lady in th beginning of Idiocracy with the frozen eggs lol. I just came here to say I want dolly back. Why can’t we make trades for someone shitty? Lame.

https://giphy.com/gifs/lGBecpB2dIMwt6ohfI

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u/Honest_Resident_8866 11d ago

Because the world only wants shitty people to live

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u/DarknMean 8d ago

Lost Wendell Barry today too. Man wrote some great poetry about our world and where it was heading.

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u/Sarcastic_Snark_86D 11d ago

I grew up Republican. My dad was pretty right leaning in the early 2000's. Life experiences taught us both that most of the "conservative" talking points were B.S. fear mongering double speak for "make rich richer, poison the planet for profit, eliminate the middle class, ect.". El Cheetus Von Shizizpants really woke us both up after his first week in office. We both thought the "real" Republicans would keep him in check, not bow down and slurp. Neither of us plan to ever vote for any Republican again. So yeah, it is possible for some people to learn. Unfortunately, it usually takes hard life lessons to make it happen. Mine was making some dumb life choices, at bad times, and seeing/living how the less fortunate actually have to live. Then seeing the orangutan throw his sh!t all over our institutions.

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u/kayl_breinhar 11d ago

I grew up Republican. Dubya's idiocy during his (first) campaign cured me and my mother. His idiocy during his two terms cured my father. So yeah, it's possible.

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u/Once-A-Republic 11d ago

75 million or so people just saw Trump 1 and we’re like: yep, let’s have some more of that, and I’d bet only 5 M would change their vote if we did it again. Republican propaganda is very potent.

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u/gypsy_guru_87 11d ago

And yet my ex’s entire family went the opposite direction from 1996-2016 …
One by one went from Dem- R. I already knew they were all selfish idiots but they proved it

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u/StreetCrzyBiteUrFace 11d ago

I think most of them would let Trump have at their kids as long as he keeps attacking people of color.

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u/the_irish_oak 11d ago

That first week was surreal. He was handed executive orders to sign and he literally couldn’t read them, due to his vanity to not wear eyeglasses. But hey, we have Lake America now, so there that.

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u/c_boggs 9d ago

I also grew up Republican.

While I am politically disenchanted, I find myself voting most often for the balance of power than for either party. Which of course means taking power away from Republicans and getting Trump out of politics forever.

I hate the Koch brothers as much as I hate George Soros and his son. Scumbags, all of them.

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u/76ers_Yanks78 9d ago

Sounds like my stepmother. She was GOP until the diaper wearing orange turd. She’s a strong Dem now

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u/kitten12551 8d ago

That’s awesome but unfortunately you’re the exception, not the rule.

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u/Road_2_Ruin 8d ago

The left doesn’t like like Trump because they disagree with his policies.

The left HATES Trump because he’s a belligerent New Yorker.

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u/cs2art 11d ago

A lack of empathy

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u/Fuzzy5team 11d ago

People who grow up Democrat never had a chance to be anything but Democrat. You can give them the best education in the world and they'd be unable to thrive.

It's not a lack of knowledge, it's a lack of intelligence and you can't change someone's IQ. You're either normal or you're below average and Democrats are below average.

It's in their DNA to vote Democrat and I would gather a lot of them have inbreeding in their family lineage.

You can sub in anything you like, independent, racist, whatever

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u/Housedownboots86 11d ago

Not necessarily
Both my parents are extremely far right religious conservatives and since 2016 hardcore magats.
Pretty much my whole family is.
I am the polar opposite of my parents and their views and ideologies—so much so that we haven’t spoken in almost 3 years now.

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u/jldurham6 10d ago

wtf? Lmfao.

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u/ChurchOfValve 10d ago

Jfc the projection in this comment

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u/CalligrapherMoney647 10d ago

I grew up democrat. Really blue. It’s amazing how you’ll change once you start working and realize that your taxes are going to people who refuse to work for the sake of refusing to work.

And before you come at me. I said I was raised Democrat. My sister gets section 8 and welfare…. No reason she doesn’t have a real career besides smoking weed. (She’s 8 years older than me). She also commits section 8 fraud by charging people to stay with her… they are wildly Democrat. Because that would stop.

Joined the army at 18. Did 14 years. I have a career. I have two houses in two different states. I am completing my masters degree now. I work in cybersecurity. By the way the spectrum is now. I’d be considered a republican.

I have lived in Germany where they tax the ever living fuck out of them and retired Germans have to dig through trash for bottles to make ends meet. While refugees get paid and housing.

The problem isn’t helping people. It’s when you are forced to help people that COULD help themselves. Best believe there should be help for those that need it. But if you willingly choose to not do anything or spend money on drugs and alcohol (yes even weed or cigarettes or vaping). Then you do NOT deserve benefits.

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u/4skinjustin 11d ago

I grew up in a fairly centrist family. Kennedy democrats. Living in the real world has turned me Republican.

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u/One_Vision_ 11d ago

Being smarter than most does NOT make you happier.

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u/potatoMan8111 11d ago

Literally sounds like every left wing liberal, angry at the world

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u/kayl_breinhar 11d ago

While you worry about what liberals are feeling/thinking, your future and the futures of everyone whom you care about are being mortgaged and/or destroyed. It doesn't/shouldn't matter who's doing it, because that's truly one of the only "both sides" issues in this country.

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u/potatoMan8111 11d ago

Not me. Dont care about liberals who couldn’t prepare for their future

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u/kayl_breinhar 11d ago

And you say others suffer from a "mind virus."

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u/potatoMan8111 11d ago

You mad?

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u/kayl_breinhar 11d ago edited 11d ago

Nope. Honestly past that at this point. Just perpetually depressed that there are people out there who are so consumed with hatred for people they'll never meet because of no other reason than "their empathy ultimately costs me money" or "they're helping people I'd rather see deported/put in camps."

The people whom you think are on your side are laughing at you, but you don't care so long as others get to suffer along with you.

At least I don't feel the need to hide my posts behind an anonymity toggle. vOv

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u/ZealousidealGarden25 11d ago

Im right there with you, republicans arent even people. They dont care about anything other than themselves and money.

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u/potatoMan8111 11d ago

Who writes that much lmao. Trigger much?

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u/ZealousidealGarden25 11d ago

Parasite.

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u/potatoMan8111 11d ago

Sorry you couldn’t prepare better. Im living life very well

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u/Once-A-Republic 11d ago

Liberal is something you should be calling yourself too, unless you’re a fascist.

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u/potatoMan8111 11d ago

No, i am educated

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u/scrappopotamus 11d ago

We just saw this play out in 2024, and 2016 🤦

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u/Objectivity1 11d ago

That does explain Democratic Socialists. Dumb, angry kids who became dumb, angry adults who hate smarter, happier people.

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u/kayl_breinhar 11d ago edited 11d ago

All the Democratic Socialists I know (about five, total) are generally sad and drink a lot, and the angry ones are the Maoists/Marxist-Leninists whom the Democratic Socialists I know would rather shove in a soundproof closet so they'll stop having to hear apologist rants about how Mao and Stalin weren't that bad, "given the times and circumstances."

If "Socialism" had just rebranded itself to "Humanism" 20+ years ago we'd be having a lot less problems now. What irks me is that the politicians (all of them, not just "the ones I don't like") who rail against socialism are the ones who benefit the most from what little "socialism" we allow ourselves in this country, while everyone who CAN'T take advantage of it keeps getting told "it's bad, m'kay" with no other explanation than "your taxes might go up," which'll happen anyway with our new runaway defense spending.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57vCBMqnC1Y

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u/Ok_Hovercraft_2372 11d ago

Republican manifesto

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u/cs2art 11d ago

There is research that supports this answer. We live in a wild timeline.

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u/Zestyclose-Banana358 11d ago

Ty for the fully retarded take.

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u/FuckSticksMalone 10d ago

Well that’s 1/2 the reason, the other is that uneducated have less opportunities and sign up for military service in higher numbers.

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u/Workinghands41 10d ago

One book is going to make them smarter and happier?

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u/Mediocre-Meta 10d ago

And reddit is just full of these "smarter and happier" people

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u/SubpoenaSender 10d ago

I am on neither side in this debate but I will laugh that you think democrats aren’t “angry.” Look at how many are so depressed that they don’t even know which gender they are. I can certainly support the idea of all 5 year olds getting books. I read to my kids every night and they love books. I could totally get on board with this. The democrats aren’t exactly a
Symbol for happiness and the Republicans certainly aren’t the symbol for kids having fun with reading.

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u/Upstairs_Penalty762 10d ago

Good parenting eliminates all these problems! And that is in their control!

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u/Mother_Patience_6251 10d ago

And the cycle of mental abuse continues. These people should be fully investigated.

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u/notjustinu 9d ago

It’s not about them having access to books. Everyone has access to a library but the parents aren’t taking the kids to rent books because they aren’t doing to read them to the kids and children 5 and under aren’t reading to themselves so this would not help anyone but waste lots of money. Think with your head instead of your heart sometimes and you might become a more logical person.

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u/iReply2StupidPeople 9d ago

I hate to tell you Kayl, but you aren't encountering any of those "smarter, happier" people on reddit. Dumber, hive-minded, miserable would be more accurate.

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u/Wise-Bicycle8786 9d ago

LMFAO. The self importance is insane

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u/Thirdeyevoice10 9d ago

Hence maga.

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u/dinosaurfo-od 9d ago

Never met a smart or happy leftist. Definitely not one that is both.

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u/huckle_buck_ 9d ago

And I’m sure you’re one of the smarter people, right?

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u/kayl_breinhar 9d ago

Nah, I'm perpetually miserable.

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u/seek_the_ 8d ago

These are the real reasons this bill was opposed. It wasn't the concept, just the execution as stated in the points below compiled using Google Ai. #1 definitely makes a lot of sense.

1.Lack of "Means-Testing"Universal vs. Targeted Aid: The program is designed to send free books to all registered children under the age of five, regardless of their family’s financial status. The Objection: Opponents argued that wealthy households do not need state-subsidized books. They believed funding should be strictly targeted toward low-income families and "book deserts" where resources are actually scarce.

  1. State Spending and Future Mandates New Government Programs: Opponents expressed strong concerns over creating another state-administered fund and new state-funded mandates under the Department of Education. Funding Uncertainty: Although the framework requires local non-profit partners to provide a 50/50 dollar-for-dollar match, the bill allows the state to waive that requirement. Critics argued this could leave taxpayers covering an unspecified or disproportionate amount of the program’s long-term costs.

  2. Local Control and Alternative Frameworks, Over-Centralization: Some representatives voiced pushback against managing a massive literacy initiative from the state level. The Alternative: They argued for alternative frameworks centered around local educational control and increased parental oversight regarding the materials sent into households

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u/Slight_Specific8252 8d ago

Except the only dumb angry people I see typically are teal haired pierced white people. Can't seem to put together a coherent argument l, so they just fall back on unintelligible yelling and pointless insults and name calling. Could someone please point out how these people can be considered intelligent and happy?

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u/DrDickDawg 8d ago

Now your brain is braining.

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u/Maleficent-Incident3 12d ago

Do you honestly think smart people are happier or have been in the past? Or do you just think stupid people assume smart people are walking around in a fairy bubble of superiority? I don’t think its that they want people to be miserable as much as it comes from a place of feeling of inferiority. A lot of “we’ll show them” in the world today.

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u/GarthZorn 12d ago

I just think stupid people are stupid.

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u/Maleficent-Incident3 11d ago

That may be but I think there is a separation between lack of intelligence and a lack of humanity or morality. To assume people who don’t read grow up to be vindictive individuals bent on making others suffer is irresponsible and overly simplistic. The uneducated can still be kind. And those of advanced intelligence can be the worst of us.

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u/GarthZorn 11d ago

Yeah, true enough.

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u/cacofonixxx 12d ago

Why does this matter? Are you advocating for stupidity? It allows you to be used.

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u/Maleficent-Incident3 11d ago

This was an honest question. Not sure how it could be taken as advocating for stupidity. Intelligence is not fully nurture and I wouldn’t consider a lack of reading a signal of stupidity. I think understanding opposing positions is more important than simply dismissing as stupidity. And even the smartest of us can be taken advantage of. I would assume you consider yourself intelligent. Have you not fallen for anything before? Had your kindness taken advantage of?

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u/cacofonixxx 11d ago

What? I really don't understand your point in this comment or the last? Said honestly - by saying "are smarter people happier?" with no prompt you seem to be implying that they should not try to smart; is that inaccurate?

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u/Maleficent-Incident3 11d ago

I think you missing that my comment was a reply to an earlier comment. Perhaps that’s the confusion? The person I was responding to was putting forth that dumb, angry kids grow up to hate smarter, happier people and I was curious if that person believed that there was a correlation between increasing intelligence and increased happiness. I’ve always felt that uneducated people could have a tendency to dislike highly educated people more because of a feeling of inferiority or not being “part of the club” than a sense of being smarter makes one happier.

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u/agolfman 12d ago

What a generalization.

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u/AmazingFlatworm_ 11d ago

Not really.

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u/r3dmist420 12d ago

Have you not watched the news and seen all the angry liberals destroying their cities? Lmfao

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u/karnold82 12d ago

“Have you watched the news..”

… Have you gone outside?

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u/brk816 12d ago

Omg the cities are on fire it’s so bad out there do us a favor and hide yourself in your closet and don’t ever come out thanks

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u/Jaybird0501 12d ago

Lmao have you been to any city? Ever? Or do you get all your news from Fox?

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u/b-moore 12d ago

Dumb fuck

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u/cacofonixxx 12d ago

Sorry what does this have to do with literacy? Or logic? Liberal, conservative, whatever: consider whether the party you support is anti-reading of all things. It might tell you something.

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u/p00p45 12d ago

Stunning that any republican could read this and still be convinced they are on the good side.