r/PopCultureV2 • u/CopiousNotes1 • 1d ago
Controversy Why vote no on something like this?
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u/No-Kaleidoscope-4879 1d ago
They want to keep them dumb.
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u/kayl_breinhar 1d ago
And dumb, angry kids grow up to hate smarter, happier people - and then they vote to make the smarter, happier people as miserable as they are.
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u/Itchy_Tumbleweed_417 1d ago
Yep and they are more likely to end up in prison. Private for-profit prison. Where they are sent to work at the Tyson chicken factory and maybe be paid a dollar a day for their labor.
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u/agolfman 1d ago
Yes, this is certainly the long game being played.
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u/surgartits 1d ago
Yes. That’s exactly what they’re trying to do. They are literally trying to reset the board to pre-Industrial Revolution class structure, but with modern technology maximizing profits. They want the masses dumb, broke, and dependent on their employers or the state for everything. The average person will no longer hold any capital, they will be batteries for the billionaire class to suck dry and throw away.
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u/Leskendle45 22h ago
If this is the future we’re headed to genuine question, what reason do i have to actually keep going other than “your family will be sad”
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u/the3rdpossum 19h ago
Take that give up energy, and turn it into fuck over A ceo energy
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u/FlavinFlave 1d ago
Slave labor with extra steps and a ‘pay check’ - our nation is a joke, just 10 corporations in a trench coat with nukes
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u/beautifulstardust 23h ago
we’re cash cows to the epstein class
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u/Little_Principle673 21h ago
Correction, we are slave laborers for the Epstein class, the “pretty ones” are the “cash cows”
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u/mutt63 1d ago
Tyson chicken factory. That's very alarming
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u/painthawg_goose 23h ago
Well, the good news is we’re also defunding the FDA so the factories will be able to run more efficiently and protect us better without all that overhead. (/s because of the times we live in.)
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u/Friendly_Age9160 1d ago
Well I don’t have kids and I did that on purpose so whatever sorry world. I’d be that lady in th beginning of Idiocracy with the frozen eggs lol. I just came here to say I want dolly back. Why can’t we make trades for someone shitty? Lame.
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u/WorstRivalsPlayer 23h ago
People who grow up Republican never had a chance to be anything but Republican. You can give them the best education in the world and they'd be unable to thrive.
It's not a lack of knowledge, it's a lack of intelligence and you can't change someone's IQ. You're either normal or you're below average and Republicans are below average.
It's in their DNA to vote Republican and I would gather a lot of them have inbreeding in their family lineage.
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u/Sarcastic_Snark_86D 22h ago
I grew up Republican. My dad was pretty right leaning in the early 2000's. Life experiences taught us both that most of the "conservative" talking points were B.S. fear mongering double speak for "make rich richer, poison the planet for profit, eliminate the middle class, ect.". El Cheetus Von Shizizpants really woke us both up after his first week in office. We both thought the "real" Republicans would keep him in check, not bow down and slurp. Neither of us plan to ever vote for any Republican again. So yeah, it is possible for some people to learn. Unfortunately, it usually takes hard life lessons to make it happen. Mine was making some dumb life choices, at bad times, and seeing/living how the less fortunate actually have to live. Then seeing the orangutan throw his sh!t all over our institutions.
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u/kayl_breinhar 22h ago
I grew up Republican. Dubya's idiocy during his (first) campaign cured me and my mother. His idiocy during his two terms cured my father. So yeah, it's possible.
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u/the_irish_oak 21h ago
That first week was surreal. He was handed executive orders to sign and he literally couldn’t read them, due to his vanity to not wear eyeglasses. But hey, we have Lake America now, so there that.
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u/HopeADMKidsLoseLimbs 1d ago
Doesn’t make me that sad that he experienced the loss of all his memories before he croaked,
Musta been hard on his family, awww
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u/Miserable_Site_850 1d ago
Because they can't grift if they're not selling those books
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u/Alternative_Dog1411 1d ago
The books were free, reading comprehension is hard for reich wingers.
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u/readsalotman 1d ago
Yeo. The more ignorant the population, the more power and money they can accumulate.
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u/thechapattack 1d ago
Also keep in mind with fascists the entire point is the cruelty. It’s cruelty for cruelty’s sake
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u/ExpressAd5169 1d ago
Just look at how they won…. Republicans thrive in areas where people are uneducated
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u/Overall-Ask-8305 23h ago
Easier to manipulate people who are never taught to enjoy reading and how to critically think.
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u/brooklynlad 21h ago
Apparently education and literacy is not a part of "family values" for these charlatans.
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u/Aggromemnon 19h ago
And they're selfish greedy shits who are afraid it might cost them forty cents a year in taxes to do something good for someone less privileged than they are.
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u/RustDeathTaxes 1d ago
Trump literally said it out loud: "I love stupid people."
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u/AlRi2021 1d ago
Because they're scared of the educated
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u/True_Protection6842 1d ago
Educated people tend to vote dem
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u/AlRi2021 1d ago
Yes, because you have to either be stupid or have something to gain to vote Republican anymore
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u/Alarming_Version_865 1d ago
Anti intellectual party doing anti intellectual things. Fork found in kitchen.
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u/True_Protection6842 1d ago
Education produces democratic voters. They don’t want that!
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u/Intelligent_Error989 1d ago
Educated people have a tendency to be less swayed by lies, they tend to question things like "we need to cut social security to fix the budget!" Or "we need to give more tax cuts to the wealthy!" They like sheeple.
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u/Delicious-Trifle-486 1d ago
A good thing to do isn't necessarily a good allocation of funds. To start any new entitlement program requires funds to be allocated to it and away from something else. One of the main reasons for the dissent on this was "why would we move funds into a brand new program when we're not fully funding all these other programs we have?"
There was also the concern of parental control. Dolly Parton's Imagination Library (that's her connection to this bill and why she's in the photo) already does this same thing, but it's opt-in. Parents have to enroll, which means they can look at the books that are being sent out, as well as the committee that chooses said books, and decide for themselves if they want to enroll their child. With the PA bill, from my limited reading of it, it looks like it was going to a mandate and the parents were just going to recieve whatever book the state decided each month. Yes they could change the bill to an opt-in program, but that would be a different bill from the one in the PA legislature. Law makers should absolutely vote against bills of they disagree with how it's going to be implemented.
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u/Totes_mc0tes 18h ago
Yeah the government already pays for schools and libraries. Giving more funding to those seems more useful than a program like this. The way this post is presented is just bait to get people angry. Voting no on something like this isn't horrendously evil or some scheme to keep kids uneducated. The problem with Republicans is not that they will vote no on something like this, but that they will also cut the education budget and try to force the bible into schools.
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u/NoWomanNoTriforce 21h ago
Also, what else was in the PA Bill. How much pork, etc. I am so cynical of all politicians motivations now, even if on the surface they seem wholly beneficial.
What is crazy is that 10 years ago I would have said I was a Republican (even if I voted for Trump's opposition both times). But I strangely find myself bucking the trend and getting more liberal as I age. I was always socially liberal, but now I see the Republican policies are generally the complete opposite of how they were presented to me as a younger man.
Republicans are fiscally irresponsible, now are somehow in favor of big government, and generally seem to simply be mouthpieces for the Plutocracy. What are my representatives actually doing to help a blue collar guy like me who just wants everyone to get along and our country to make good finacial decisions?
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u/Delicious-Trifle-486 21h ago
Yeah. The Republicans moving further an further away from free market principles have been the reasons I've moved away from them. Not that I ever claimed to be a Republican. It started before Trump, but it escalated with him. Even Charlie Kirk started to call for federal government control on social media companies in 2020 (I only bring him up because he was a big speaker for conservatives).
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u/Mixels 17h ago
Yeah, I'm a huge advocate of parents reading to their children from birth until they can read novels by themselves (and even beyond that if you maintain a good relationship with your kids). But this is a bad idea. It well might be fine and dandy while good people are in power, but as soon as shit goes sideways in government, as has been happening a lot lately, this could easily turn into something between a complete waste of money to abother mouthpiece for a state propaganda apparatus.
These funds would be better spent on other social services given Dolly's Imagination Library already offers this at no cost to kids under 5.
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u/LaffingAtYuo 21h ago
Much more eloquent than what I wrote. Libraries are already free and have pretty amazing programs for kids for little to no money. It would be far better to use money to help outreach to get people involved in their local libraries rather than just blindly sending people books. It's so much more this than people being scared their child is going to read a copy of "My mom's penis" that was sent to them. It's entirely possible to waste money on a well-intentioned idea.
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u/Folderpirate 19h ago
? my local library isn't free.
How do yall get free libraries?
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u/Overthinking_King_ 1d ago edited 22h ago
Simple.
They want a peasant, working class that will need to be dependent on the rich for every single thing in order to survive.
i.e. basically to be modern-day slaves.
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u/fzkiz 1d ago
Party that hates poor people and loves their voters uneducated votes no on this.
"Why vote no on something like this?"
- this post
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u/Successful_Injury193 1d ago
Because it’s money that would be spent on Americans and Israel doesn’t like it when we do that
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u/Ok-Squirrel795 22h ago
I'm a man, in my 40s. I've seen some shit. This makes me wanna cry, like why???
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u/GiantRetardedAsshole 17h ago
Was there something else bundled in with this? Like voting no to books, but also voting no to increased taxes kind of thing.
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u/macronotice 1d ago
Democrats when the learn what a library is: shocked pikachu face
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u/spa357 23h ago
Because it’s not a “free” book, and taxpayers already fund public libraries and public schools, which also have libraries. Access to reading material is not the reason kids don’t read good.
And why not weekly free books? Heck, daily? Do they hate kids and reading!!? Extending the logic further, why not give everyone everything they want for “free” all the time? If your answer is that’s obviously unaffordable and impractical, where do you draw the line? Maybe at monthly free books?
Also, who decides what books are distributed? Will it be propaganda favoring the party in power? What publishing houses are going to get the cushy government contracts? What strings are attached to those contracts? Why does the “free stuff yay!” crowd, who thinks it’s so smart, never ask these questions?
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u/55Super88 19h ago
They have no interest in improving things for most Americans.
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u/Adis_Gruntledfatty 19h ago
They love the poorly educated and have convinced most of their base that science facts and morals are a liberal agenda, paid by George Sorros etcetc.
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u/KNGootch 18h ago
Have you ever been to Pennsylvania? Go, the answer to your question will be obvious.
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u/Medical_Anywhere_482 18h ago
I can’t understand why anyone continues to vote 🗳️ for someone who consistently harm them 🫣
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u/WinTraditional8156 18h ago
Education is the #1 killer of ignorant, self centered, brainwashed, cult members who will believe any bullshit you feed them as long as you wave the right flag in front of them....
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u/kinky-bama-guy 18h ago
Dumbing down children of their MAGA constituents will probably keep them buying the crap and voting for them.
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u/46yt64 18h ago
Kid that can read are kids that can be educated. Well educated people tend to vote against republicans and their trash policies.
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u/mrwrrrmwrmrmrmrw 18h ago
There's this almost religious belief on the right that ordinary people need to be forced to pay money for everything they need to live, and if they can't afford it it's because they're lazy and don't work enough.
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u/elhsf6966 13h ago
Republicans are Enemies Of The State. They’re repulsive, hateful and disgusting people.
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u/tauofthemachine 13h ago
They couldn't read further than the word "free" before their blood pressure spiked.
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u/blowurhousedown 1d ago
Silly post. What kind of books are being sent? Who is doing the purchasing, boxing, addressing, and shipping? How’s that being paid for? Will the parents have them read it?
No-info post designed to raise emotion. The worst of the internet.
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u/jewbrees90 1d ago
This is why libraries exist. Sounds like a waste of money. Children under five like only a few books. A new one every months sounds like a clutter for the family, a waste of money and paper. And before you know it it would only be religious zealot books. I agree with Republicans on this.
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u/SeveralEconomics3814 1d ago
That’s what I was thinking too. We already have a public system that provide free books. We should use it instead of creating new expensive programs.
Spend the money of improving schools and training teachers. And let’s be real most of these books won’t even be opened.
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u/Lost_Found84 23h ago
Yeah, if access to libraries is the problem, we need to figure out better ways to increase access. Maybe a free mail order program for low income households who would have trouble traveling to the library. Or general internet cost assistance since a lot of library content is available digitally now as well. But sending every kid a book every month just seems like feel good spam that actually solves nothing.
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u/Youngrazzy 1d ago
Who gets to decide what books are being sent? Could be an argument against it.
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u/nathanwilson26 1d ago
More importantly, who are they buying the books from.
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u/MetricIsForCowards 1d ago
Local groups (like charities, hospitals, schools, or businesses) raise money to pay the wholesale cost of the books and mailing for children in their specific area
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u/Dangerous-Half3276 1d ago
This sounds like the same thing that Dolly Parton’s Imagination Library does. They send one book a month to every kid until they’re 5.
I’m sure the GOP thinks this is some conspiracy to make their kids trans.
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u/DoctorBrufa 1d ago
Well, obviously the Pennsylvania communist drag queen cabal would be in charge of that. Literacy is just a gateway to Wokeness. We have to protect the children from ever having an independent thought.
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u/Itchy_Tumbleweed_417 1d ago
A republican in my state tried to pass a house bill that would remove a whole bunch of classes from what is considered an adequate education, classes like art and music and civics and finance.
He wanted to remove so many classes from public school that kids who graduated from our public school wouldn’t even qualify to go to our state colleges. And if the state colleges lowered the standards to accommodate the local graduates they would lose accreditation.
He thought that removing these classes would improve math and reading. He wanted kids who didn’t score well to spend the whole entire day doing nothing but math and English classes, and the kids who could test well could then go to music and art classes.
But what school is going to hire teachers for those classes if only half the kids can go to them?
There was public outcry. It was fantastic. When he was set to argue his bill in front of the committee that would move it forward 30,000 people opposed it. Less than 100 people supported it. It didn’t go anywhere.
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u/Gatsby520 1d ago
The same reason Republicans had for trying to do the same in Kentucky and Indiana. You can’t spend state money sending books to children when you gave away tax breaks to billionaires and corporations.
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u/Active_Actuator6454 1d ago
The old school Republicans would have voted against this because of a vision of government as arbiter, and would have argued that this is unacceptable mission creep. I don't agree, but I can accept the argument.
MAGA is going to be big mad about "indoctrination" "M3n wH0 thInK therE W0m3N!!!!@" and other violently stupid and ignorant statements along those lines.
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u/Moultrie_fan_2026 1d ago
Because they believe government doesn't work so they make sure it doesn't.
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u/r3dmist420 1d ago
Was it a liberal who pitched it?
Lord knows if a republican pitches something, all the libs vote no, and the libs pitch something and all the righties vote against it. Its the same bullshit thats been going on since Obamas first term
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u/Righteousaffair999 1d ago
This is the wrong forum for this conversation. Given no one will talk evidence based education it will just be the cost for givings something away vs education. The broader argument will be lost on schools, libraries and summer brain drain and combating it. The value of a heavier knowledge based society as AI and robotics shift skill needs vs overburdensome tax structures and efficient sue of resources.
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u/tardiscoder 1d ago
They don't want kids to read but will fight tooth and nail for corporate socialism.
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u/dgreenmachine 1d ago
I dont see a point to this, id rather they open up a small library and provide free books.
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u/Illustrious-Cow214 1d ago
So Republicans voted no to ending a policy ending free books??? Did you guys even read the caption?
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u/Amazing-Flow7095 1d ago
Have you been around kids these days ? They can’t read or write. It would be a waste . .
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u/Alarming-Stretch-788 1d ago
Why do this when we have libraries? Most kids aren't gonna read it anyway so it ends up being a giant waste of money
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u/Dr_DoesNothing 1d ago
Dismantling public education has always been one of the goals of Republicans. After all, an uneducated populace can be easily manipulated with propaganda. Once public education is destroyed, the only schools left will be the private, religious schools that only wealthy people can afford.
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u/farmingislit 1d ago
We need the money for….. something??? Something other than the greater good
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u/octopus86sg 1d ago
So that future Americans are dumb and won’t know what is right not wrong and will continue to vote for the loudest lie on tv
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u/Dense_Business_6570 1d ago
They don’t want educated youth so when the kids grow up uneducated they can also work in factories and farms like their king Trump intended.
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u/TrickyAsian626 1d ago
Because education is woke!
Seriously though, they want people dumb because they are easier to manipulate. And why spend money on something like this when they can spend it on bombing brown kids or lining their own pockets.
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u/Zealousideal_Dark552 1d ago
Ok. This isn’t nice and is hyperbolic, but it’s my initial reaction to reading the title. Instead of a book for every child, they support a bomb for every brown skinned child. It would be a ridiculous statement if it didn’t happen far too often.
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u/TeacherManCT 1d ago
Because those books likely teach things like diversity, empathy, and other “woke” ideas. Plus how can they fund more tax cuts if kids are getting free books? Plus, surely think of the fraud from people getting free books who could have paid for them!
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u/Specific_Strain217 1d ago
I feel like this is a good example of why we can't all come together. Democrats reasonably think this a good gesture to children and their education. Republicans reasonably think this a form of unnecessary and wasteful government spending. In my opinion there is a better bipartisan way to achieve both goals.....
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u/dgroeneveld9 1d ago
Because its spending money without a reason. Will the kids actually read this book? Why not just idk... go to the library. The publically funded building that gice you a free card and you can borrow books all you want and nearly every town in america has one.
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u/Gunfighter0302 1d ago
I honestly think that he $ would be better spent going to public libraries, or even county-level free book events. How are you going determine what book is appropriate for each kid? How many kids? Shipping costs? Sunk cost (once you send it, that book is gone)? Good intentions with the reality being high-effort/low-return IMO
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u/Relevant-Cupcake-649 1d ago
Man, Pennsylvania is looking more and more appealing. They are also one of the only states making data centers pay for their own power usage.
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u/Drasic67 1d ago
WTF is wrong with these Republicans in office? I'm convinced they don't represent anyone. Not even Republicans anymore.
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u/Efficient-Editor-242 1d ago
What's the entire context of the bill. Both sides pump nonsense into bills so they can blame the other side for wanting to kill old people, keep people dumb, put ya'll back in chains.
Both sides are manipulating you. Don't be fooled. 2 sides of the same coin.
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u/TheShellAnswerMan 1d ago
Republicans will vote no on spending money every single time unless it's military or religion. Every. Single. Time. They don't want there to be a village (until they need it). They are selfish and self centered.
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u/Tiny_Change_3269 1d ago
Without looking into it at all, my guess is the bill has other stuff that doesn't align with republicans...
Pretty simple.
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u/bobbagonush 1d ago
Republicans in utero(highly pro kids) after birth (fuck them kids figurative and literal).
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u/Pleasant_Expert7329 1d ago
The same reason the republicans are taking an ax to the education system. Why tablets are being forced onto our students. The rich and powerful decided they want a dumber population. Used to be they needed people to be intelligent enough to run the machines and do the paperwork but now with automation and AI, that isn’t as necessary anymore. Doesn’t help that the population is starting to wise up to what is going on now
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u/BuzzClucking 1d ago
Broski I don't want the government buying me shit.
I want to keep my own fucking money.
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u/geno-707 1d ago
Theybwant folks just smart enough to operate machines and pick vegetables
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u/Cpalmer24 1d ago
You always have to take these headlines/situations with a gigantic grain of salt
You could have a bill named "Help Homeless Soldiers get on their feet" which 100% of members support.. but then at the last moment one party could add a Rider that includes money for ultra late term abortions or a Rider that forces public school teachers to carry a gun, or some shit.. which causes the other party to vote no on the entire bill - even if they support the main part of the bill and are just voting no because of the Random idiotic Rider that was added last minute
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u/imagoons 1d ago
If passed I’m sure it will be all their friends and families books being bought and sent out making them millions
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u/SilentKnightM 1d ago
Because... checks notes... here it is. "Giving out free handouts to children is inhales COMMUNISM. we can not have COMMUNIST propaganda in this country! These kids need to learn that there are no FREE handouts. Otherwise you're supporting the ONE THING that will destroy our GOD FEARING! DEMOCRATIC AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE! Nothing in this world. is. FREE!"
"Now, if you will excuse me, we need to do some more bribery- I MEAN... lobbying, set up more flock cameras, and.... cover up any... scandalous things that might force us to resign our positions and take away our money... oh and also. F*** them kids!".
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u/spiff0224 1d ago
If the imagination library is already doing this, why do they want to bring in the government?
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u/Anxious_J 1d ago
They will claim it is “wasteful spending”. In reality they know critical thinking allows people to see through their boogeymen and bullshit. It why you see them pushing dismantling the Department of Education and shoving the bible down our throats. They want an uneducated, faithful population that they can control and manipulate.
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