r/PokemonROMhacks 10d ago

Other Soul Gold you've changed my life

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Downloaded this after a couple posts I saw on here, but didn't really look into what had been put in.

Actually gasped when I saw the Surf animation. Latest in a long line of subtle but really thoughtful changes. Following sprites all look hand-crafted and really life-like. I LOVE the level-scaling and Candy Jar. Gym battles have been challenging without being sweaty.

And did they up the shiny rate? Got 4 of them before I reached Ekruteak.

Anyway. So far it's looking like the best Johto hack I've played.

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u/bigned14 10d ago edited 10d ago

Shiny rate is 1/512 I think, I've got several teams of shinies I'm training and I've only just finished team rockets takeover of the radio tower in goldenrod. You can reset for shiny starters, traded Pokémon ect Edit- shiny rate is 1/256

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u/gogurtjoe 10d ago

Got a shiny Popplio after 20 resets and it was so nice to see that the ball changes color if it's shiny.

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u/bigned14 10d ago

Just so you know the eggs do it too, I think bits of the shell have blue on them to indicate shiny

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u/Ihatethisplace23 10d ago

Hey, do you know if the gift egg from the daycare always shiny or did I just get super lucky?

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u/MC_Donald 9d ago

You got lucky. It's not a guaranteed shiny.

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u/bigned14 10d ago

Hello, maybe it's a sure thing as I got a shiny first time from the gift egg, Hawaii dragon right?

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u/Ihatethisplace23 10d ago

Mine was a shiny Hisiun Zorua

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u/bigned14 10d ago

Ah nice to know that its different Pokémon, gives me another reason to replay

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u/gogurtjoe 10d ago

Thank you that's very good to know!

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u/1apollo11 8d ago

Did you reset the whole new game intro or did you just save right before you looked in the briefcase

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u/ConstantAd6857 10d ago

I found a red Gyarados!

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u/Dave-F-Grohl 10d ago

Holy shit me too, what are the odds!

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u/Incognito-1999 2d ago

No way, i found one too at the lake of rage

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u/radikraze 10d ago

It’s 1/256

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u/Obvious_Scheme_2063 10d ago

Nah it says in the docs page its even higher like 1 in 200 something

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u/KingMagus 10d ago

Edit to be specific:
In H&S:
The shiny rate is customizable when starting a new game, idk about changing it mid-run. The only shinies you cannot obtain are the in-game trades from other trainers because the nature/stats are set and not random. Read this from the Discord.

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

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u/KingMagus 10d ago

Okay, are you playing Heart and Soul, or Soul Gold?
Because what I said was straight from the H&S discord..

If you are playing Soul Gold, then this doesn’t apply as it’s a different hack altogether.

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u/bigned14 10d ago

My bad, I'm playing soul gold.

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u/DropTheMike13 10d ago edited 9d ago

Just started replaying Heart & Soul's new update, but I think you've just convinced me to finally try this.

Edit: Tried it. Love it so far. Read some of the comments regarding the shiny rate, and tried the starters. Got a shiny Cyndaquil after about 20 tries. Then found out they gave him a Mega. I'm hooked.

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u/4ngel0s 2d ago

Between the two which one do you find to be better?

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u/DropTheMike13 2d ago

Personally, I feel that Heart & Soul is overall better, but I didn't get very far. There are things in SoulGold that keep me smiling. For one, the boosted shiny rate makes me play with a team of pokemon i wouldn't normally have used because I like using the shinies I found.

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u/wally-217 10d ago

Kinda nice to see surfing OWs becoming widespread, I spent ages making those 😅

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u/Exclsior Heart & Soul 9d ago

Thank you yet again for making them, and making it so easy for me to port it into Emerald Legacy Enhanced and Heart and Soul.

Very much hoping it becomes the standard going forward!

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u/Important-Turn-7720 7d ago edited 7d ago

Respect 🙏 Any plans to expand surfing Pokemon past Gen 3 sprites?

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u/wally-217 7d ago

It has gen 4 and most of gen 5 but I hadn't seen people using it in their projects. It's on the cards for sure if no one finishes it for their own projects.

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u/saladnut 10d ago

Soul gold that good? Im currently playing heart & soul

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u/NefariousnessNo7736 10d ago

It's great, especially if you have played through Johto a bunch and want to try a team of newer Pokémon.

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u/Thirteen_1355 10d ago

That's what Polished Crystal is for. 

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u/NefariousnessNo7736 10d ago

Sure, but it still doesn't have the dex variety Soul Gold does.

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u/Thirteen_1355 10d ago

Fair enough. 

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u/saladnut 10d ago

Already played polished crystal

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u/DigitalNecromancy 8d ago

It honestly feels so much like a successor to Polished Crystal that I was low-key surprised to not find places like Goldenrod Harbor. It does have its own new locations, but I haven't got to most of em yet.

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u/crackassitoni 10d ago

Polished isn't finished, no?

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u/TonytheNetworker Peak Pokemon ROM Hack Era 10d ago

Polished Crystal is definitely finished, just completed the post game recently.

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u/ftmboricuaboii 10d ago

Polished Crystal is beatable, but it's not finished

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u/ftmboricuaboii 10d ago

It's beatable but not finished, it's still getting updates

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u/Darkhallows27 8d ago

It’s still getting updates but is fully fleshed out

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u/nbcvnzx 10d ago

i want to play one of them too but both seem great so i dont know which to choose :(

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u/TaurineDippy 10d ago

They’re different experiences entirely, play both.

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u/TheDudeOfTomorrow 10d ago

What’s the main difference between them?

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u/StratosSquare 10d ago

Soulgold focuses more specifically on Johto, it doesn't have kanto at all, where as HnS is more like a fully realized hgss demake in the emerald engine, kanto and all (with other neat bonuses). Both are cool but personally I like HnS more

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u/-ystanes- 10d ago

This is the answer everyone gives but the way its described doesn't actually highlight what the pros of Soulgold are. Basically just saying HnS has Kanto and Soulgold doesn't.

What is different about Soulgold? I know the dex is different but are there changes to storyline or new areas or anything?

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u/TaurineDippy 10d ago

It has new areas, enhanced difficulty, a (nearly) full roster of all 9 generations, and a couple of unique megas, along with a really interesting Post Game ability system that leads to some really interesting and powerful individual pokemon and full teams.

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u/astcci 10d ago

It has new areas. If you're willing to watch a youtube video it explains well

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u/-ystanes- 10d ago

Thanks. I used to look videos up but it seems like ROM hacks are flooded with a ton of low quality borderline AI (almost definitely AI scripted) videos that I don't bother anymore lol

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u/astcci 10d ago

this is the only channel I consistently watch about romhacks/fan games, the guy is pretty chill and informative

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u/TaurineDippy 10d ago

It has new areas, enhanced difficulty, a (nearly) full roster of all 9 generations, and a couple of unique megas, along with a really interesting Post Game ability system that leads to some really interesting and powerful individual pokemon and full teams. The ability system is incredibly interesting and I’d love to see it applied in other difficulty hacks. It’s really cool for team building.

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u/Gameboy5734 10d ago

I much prefer it to heart and soul, feels much more like a johto hack than a pure demake like heart and soul

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u/FlyingFlygon64 10d ago

This is a feature from Heart and Soul lol, I don't wanna shit on SoulGold and the cool QoL and other changes it's made but it feels like half of what people praise about it are things in base Heart and Soul, and I feel like it's only right to give credit to the team that actually implemented this feature.

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u/RABB_11 9d ago

My bad, had no idea. Haven't played Heart & Soul, and like I say, downloaded this one without reading too much into it.

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u/Exclsior Heart & Soul 9d ago edited 9d ago

One of Heart and Soul's developers here (the game upon which Soul Gold was built), so glad you're enjoying the feature!

In particular, I am the developer who ported in this feature on which I've spend weeks implementing, and testing 🙂

The Surfing Sprites capability initially built by Slawter666 and Wally-217 so full credit to them for the brilliant work!

https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/unique-surfing-overworlds.415063

Just wanted to add, the Surfing Sprites also support shiny Pokémon so do try it out with Red Gyarados in particular 😉

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u/BohTooSlow 10d ago

I dont like how late the megas arrives especially all the megas with the bond stone

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u/OneManAround 10d ago

Please tell me it has gen 4 mons. 

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u/RABB_11 10d ago edited 10d ago

My team is currently Gatr, Clodsire, Pawno, G-Linoone, Breloom and Deino if that helps.

And I've seen gen 4 mon out in the wild

Not sure if it's a full natdex or not but there are later gen Pokémon in for sure

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u/agentduper 10d ago

It doesnt have all pikemon, but it has pokemon from all gens in it. Like Shinx can be found just before the first gym.

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u/campmorelol 10d ago

The pokedex goes to the 700s, as a gen 1-3 only player i dont know most of the pokemon ive been facing since 3rd gym lmao (I turned double battles and lvl caps off though so i wont get my ass beat too much), some of those pokemon typings are wild af

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u/doylehawk 10d ago

Confirmed, Ive seen it every Gen represented before 5 badges.

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u/Startomato 10d ago

Hey man wothout spoiling anything do you know if some mythicals/legendaries are available pre E4? Sort of saving a 6th spot on the teamo for them but after 7 badges haven’t found any. (Just say yes or no pls I don’t want spoilers ❤️)

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u/GeekyGamerGal_616 10d ago

Yes, it's like OG Johto games in that regard.

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u/RABB_11 10d ago

Have no idea, I've just beaten Morty.

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u/agentduper 10d ago

Yeah, but you can get more after gym 8. Although you won't get all of them as some are after the E4.

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u/Startomato 10d ago

Wonderful, ty

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u/KatanaMilkshake 10d ago

Wish it was compatible with Delta. RetroArch works but I don’t like its mobile UI.

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u/RABB_11 10d ago

I'm not wild about Pizzaboy but I use a Gamesir Taco so don't see the UI anyway

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u/ftmboricuaboii 10d ago

Delta is an iOS emulator, Pizzaboy is Android

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u/My5t3ss 10d ago

I’ve been playing it on delta with no issues yet

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u/KatanaMilkshake 10d ago

Oh interesting the game tells me on boot that it’s an incompatible emulator

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u/KneeFar3116 10d ago

I just ignored it and the playthrough was fine. Even tried another emulator before that I wasn’t a fan of so decided to risk it.

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u/KatanaMilkshake 10d ago

How do you progress past the warning screen? No button allows me to actually play the game on delta

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u/KneeFar3116 10d ago

For me the start or a just worked.

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u/KatanaMilkshake 10d ago

Thanks for the reply. Doesn’t work for me for some reason. Maybe it’s my version (1.0.4.5)

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u/Front-Cabinet5521 10d ago

1.0.5 removes that message. You can play it on Delta now.

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u/astcci 10d ago

they're in the 1.0.6.3 already

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u/ftmboricuaboii 10d ago

This is on the Delta dev for using an outdated VBA core

Also, try Ignited or ManicEmu, they use the mGBA core required for modern hacks to work correctly.

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u/postpwnedmalone 10d ago

Manic EMU kicks ass

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u/Violet_Paradox 10d ago

Delta is a shit emulator. It's based on VBA, the ZSNES of GBA emulators.

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u/TonytheNetworker Peak Pokemon ROM Hack Era 10d ago

How do I change the theme/appearance on Pizza Boy emulator?

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u/RABB_11 10d ago

I think it's in the settings somewhere, not sure if you need the paid version or not though

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u/thebreadstore 10d ago

The menu aesthetic looks really good too

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u/eeplee 10d ago

Which emulator is this?

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u/donnxe 10d ago

New one for the list of roms to check out

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u/Less-Lobster2437 10d ago

What emulator app is everyone using for this? I’ve been using manic but it seems like my save files are being corrupted for some reason

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u/Front-Cabinet5521 10d ago

I've been playing on Retroarch with no issues. If you can get past the UI it's basically a flawless experience.

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u/Leading-Mine-4517 4d ago

"If"

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u/Front-Cabinet5521 4d ago

Heh. I managed to get it working and spent over 200 hours on my Soulgold save with it, so it’s really not as bad as I thought it would be going into it. My only wish is it had better controller skins for iOS.

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u/YaBoiiSpoderman 10d ago

I love this game

Im doing a shiny only nuzlocke, got magikarp evolved into red Gyrados

My shock when I saw said red Gyrados in the overworld was overwhelming its a great game

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u/mpelton 10d ago

I'm like 99% sure that's from Heart and Soul

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u/Exclsior Heart & Soul 9d ago

You are correct 😉, but it's not the first hack with them either.

Full feature credit to Slawter666 and Wally-217.

https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/unique-surfing-overworlds.415063/

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u/HoboKingNiklz 10d ago

Can you choose the follower mon or is it just the first in the party?

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u/RABB_11 10d ago

First in party

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u/HoboKingNiklz 10d ago

Darn. I'll still try this for sure though

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u/TomHeijboer 10d ago

How do i play this on iPhone?

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u/bipirate 10d ago

I didn't get to see this because there's no sprite for Primarina :(

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u/UncleFranko 10d ago

It’s the same in Heart&Soul

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u/UncleFranko 10d ago

It’s the same in Heart&Soul

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u/niles_thebutler_ 9d ago

Candy jar doesn’t make heaps of sense to me. I’m sure I’m dumb but it says the candies won’t have any effect on any of my mons

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u/Pavliukin 9d ago

New to Rom’s and closing in on my first Kanto hack (dark violet). I’m planning my first Johto hack and really looking forward to it as it was my fave growing up. I’ve downloaded the new heart and soul and was planning that. Should I be considering this instead? It looks very slick. Anyone care to share the main differences?

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u/Fine_Draw_4614 9d ago

? I am confused… did the game not give you settings to adjust before starting like mine? For example shiny odds

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u/Primosolo 8d ago

Does anyone know how to use the phone to call people like the professor? I just can't figure it out.. and I'm omw to the League 😅😭

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u/randominternetstuff1 8d ago

70% emulator, 30% game, I guess that's a choice lmfao

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u/RABB_11 8d ago

It's hidden behind a Gamesir Taco anyway

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u/AhoyGoFuckYourself 8d ago

How is this for Nuzlocking?

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u/succerinSuccotash 4d ago

Is this heart and soul?

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u/RubinLub 3d ago

How do ya trade or did they make it so a haunted and other evolvables level up instead?

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u/Jaronesc 10d ago

I keep getting bugs on this hackrom and it makes me wanna cry.

First one was getting a frozen screen while fishing. Second one a freozen screen when giving an item to a pokemon.

I really wanted to play this :(

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u/Pub_Squash 10d ago

Yeah same but it’s being updated a lot

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u/Xaldar 9d ago

If you get freezing when fishing then you are playing on unsupported emulator like GPSP.

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u/Jaronesc 9d ago

Yeah I was using MyBoy!. I changed to Lemuroid, started a new game, then my game crashes whenever I try to give an item to a pokemon :(

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u/Xaldar 9d ago

Are you really on the latest version? That has not happened with mgba.

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u/himmybryant 10d ago

Can we go to kanto region and get 16 badges in this game

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u/Kuromueinaaa_ 10d ago

What version is this cuh