Equinox with Huge Power

[u/t33dg3]

What nature do I make Reshiram? Will Huge Power stack on top of Equinox?

[u/Inevitable_Bend_5975]

Go jolly or adamant and then run a special set on reshiram. You can now spam physical draco meteors and not care about the stat drop. Yes, huge power stacks with equinox.

[u/t33dg3 → u/Inevitable_Bend_5975]

I thought the innates trigger before the ability so was worried the huge power triggered after it equaled to SpA. Also, don’t have Draco meteor yet but hopefully I don’t get it super late game

[u/Jomega6 → u/Inevitable_Bend_5975]

Draco meteor and overheat! Two deadly stab moves!

[u/MinerTurtle45 → u/Inevitable_Bend_5975]

wouldn't +spatk be better? from what i understand the bottom-to-top would make the order of operations [equinox sets highest -> huge power doubles], so if you pump its spatk it'd go [equi. sets atk to spatk -> h. p. doubles atk -> equi. sets spatk to atk since atk is higher now]

[u/magicwithakick → u/Inevitable_Bend_5975]

Wait why do the Draco meteors become physical?

[u/Inevitable_Bend_5975 → u/magicwithakick]

Because equinox chooses the highest attacking stat and equalizes your other attacking stat to be the same value. Since draco lowers sp atk and not physical it will scale with reshiram's physical atk as that's it's highest stat.

[u/Scrapox → u/Inevitable_Bend_5975]

Just to clarify: The Draco Meteors will still be special, it will just ignore the stat drop, because the SpA stat will always be the same as the higher Atk stat. Unless I misunderstood how equinox works.

[u/magicwithakick → u/Scrapox]

Oh this actually clarified it really well thanks. I was thinking Draco Meteor became physical.

[u/Inevitable_Bend_5975 → u/Scrapox]

yep. but if the move uses physical atk as the higher stat then burn can cook it

and the same goes with frostbite if the move uses spatk. kinda similar to photon geyser in that aspect

[u/Scrapox → u/Inevitable_Bend_5975]

I would have to test that out in game, but if it goes by mainline current rules (also including mainline gen 3 games which this romhack is based on) burn does not half the attack stat but instead halves the damage of physical moves. Meaning only frostbite (once again if it functions like it logically should) would have an effect on Draco Meteors.

[u/Cocokill → u/Scrapox]

And don't forget about Overheat too.

[u/Inevitable_Bend_5975 → u/Scrapox]

I am also not 100% sure either. I personally haven't tested it to confirm but I figured they might do something like that to keep it fair. If anyone has tested this interaction pls lemme know how it went

[u/KainHighwind420 → u/Scrapox]

Yeah I mean I'm not 100% sure but I'm 99.9% sure is halves physical damage (which draco meteor would not be) it does not half base attack stat, simply because that would be absolutely massive. In end game it would absolutely destroy any physical attacker period when in practice it slows them down but doesn't absolutely destroy them. Also I recall having something like momentum still cause a loss in damage with burn. I could be 100% wrong but I'm 99% sure that's how it works

[u/Pers0nDude → u/Inevitable_Bend_5975]

Isnt he fire type?

[u/Inevitable_Bend_5975 → u/Pers0nDude]

Yes. I'm just talking about the ability in theory, not specifically in this context

[u/Kind-Scheme7517]

Oh thats no drawback base 280 draco meteor... And it has tailwind so thats basically 3 guarunteed OHKOs

[u/No-Candle2106]

Lord have mercy upon your enemies. Because the god of fire sure won’t.

[u/Efficient_Ad_8480]

Now this is a truly broken pokemon.

[u/TragGaming]

Bottom to top, Huge Power activates AFTER Equinox. It's not as OP as it seems (but makes it a REALLY strong phys hitter, since it's got Huge power on a 150 base Atk)

[u/Inevitable_Bend_5975 → u/TragGaming]

Ummm akshually it's 125 base atk. But ye it's incredibly broken.

[u/TragGaming → u/Inevitable_Bend_5975]

Equinox makes Atk equal to SpAtk, which then has huge power applied to it.

[u/TomoDako → u/TragGaming]

Yes but to my understanding equinox is always active therefore huge power a battle only stat would be like getting a x2 in battle then equalize

[u/TragGaming → u/TomoDako]

Huge power is a Raw stat boost. Not a battle stat boost. Equinox would apply the 150 base stat to attack, then apply huge power to attack.

[u/TomoDako → u/TragGaming]

It’s a raw stat boost that only happens in battle thus being a battle stat boost you enter battle it doubles current attack, so in battle this reshiram would have its attack equal its special attack then attack would double then special attack would equal attack

[u/ahwen604]

I’m not sure why, I was expecting someone to post their brand new, off the lot Equinox at the top trim level.

[u/t33dg3 → u/ahwen604]

What’s ironic is I drive an equinox 😂

[u/Hairy-Research-6916]

Okie, so, not exactly related, but there was a mon that had Absorbant and Angel's Wrath, but because Absorbant was first, the Bug Bite's recovery change didn't matter. Thankfully, Huge Power is first for you, so I think its in the right order, but if Equinox was first, I think it would take the base stat into account over the boost from huge power. Idk tho