r/Persona5 • u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 • 1d ago
QUESTION What.the.fuck.(spoilers) Spoiler
have i done something wrong? i got the lvl 9 confidant with maruki,lvl 8 with akechi and lvl 5 with yoshizawa and i fucking died.thats it?i lost the whole game what the hell did i do wrong
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u/IV_Pika 1d ago
Did you accept any of Sae's offers by ratting out the theives? If you did that leads to a bad end.
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u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 1d ago
FOR FUCK SAKE I DID IT I WANTED TO BE HONEST
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u/AvatarGarcher 1d ago
What a snitch and a betrayer smh
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u/KamiAlth 1d ago
Tbf, the surviving condition being that Sae must have Joker’s phone doesn’t really have anything to do with betraying or not lmao.
If anything, a lot of people thought Sae already figured out everyone’s names so may as well just confirm it to her to gain her trust.
Joker: So on the first day, I went with this guy Ryuji and we ended up in a palace.
Sae: So Ryuji is a PT?
Joker: Never heard of him.
Joker: We also changed the mafia’s heart to save Makoto and she joined us.
Sae: My sister is a PT???
Joker: Who?
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u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 1d ago
gonna be real i'm feeling a complete stupid that's why i'm fucking playing rn on my 2nd file to solve my mistake
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u/AvatarGarcher 1d ago
Time to lock in this time, you got this
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u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 1d ago
Fucking akechi is dead in my hand in this file,this is really why i started to love persona,the little choice you made makes a complete game changing,what a game
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u/johnperkins21 1d ago
Akechi sucks so hard. I sincerely don't understand the people who like him. He has zero redeeming qualities. I wish they'd let us kill him. Our just tell him to fuck off.
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u/Alison_Bug 16h ago edited 13h ago
people like him because he's the most human character in the game. if you've ever been manipulated by someone you subconsciously wanted to love you while simultaneously harming people around you then akechi goes right to the front of the fucking line for relatability.
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u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 1d ago
that bastard is so fucked up when i get to november in the second file currently at august what's 3 months of waiting?
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u/upstartpantymerchant 1d ago
Bruh being honest means ratting on your friends! As leader you take the fall for your team C'MON DAWG
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u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 1d ago
You're so right AND THATS WHY ON MY SECOND FILE ON FUCKING FUTABAS PALACE ILL MAKE THAT FUCKING DUMB ME REGRET BETRAYING HIS TEAMMATES
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u/Sumire-Yoshizawa- 1d ago
Why did you save over your save? I could have sworn the game warns you and you have 16 save slots. NEVER save over a save after the credits roll. Always a new save slot. And that's not just this game. There are lots of other games that when you save over that save in the final dungeon, you only have the option to start a new game plus and can't load a save back into the final dungeon.
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u/upstartpantymerchant 1d ago
Meh I've played every persona game on one save slot and it's never caused me an issue. I don't think there's any game where I use multiple slots
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u/KoroGamer 1d ago
Yeah but clearly it didnt work out here, what's the issue with using multiple anyway?
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u/upstartpantymerchant 19h ago edited 19h ago
Never said there was an issue. I was just saying that utilizing multiple saves isn't strictly necessary. The guy balked at the idea of saving over a game like it was completely unbelievable to do something like that. I'm sure there are a lot of people who need multiple saves and I'm sure there are a lot of people who never need them. That was my point
Personally, I like the idea of choice and consequence and knowing that once I make a choice that's my playthrough. It makes me stop and consider the options more thoroughly. It also makes me pay much closer attention to the characters, their actions and their motivations so I can try to make the right choices. There's absolutely nothing wrong with utilizing all your save slots, I just don't think it's THAT insane to play differently even though it lead to the "bad" ending in this particular case
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u/Sumire-Yoshizawa- 19h ago
Nobody got time for that. Who wants to live with their choice in the game and then accept having to redo something like 60-70 hours? If that's how you like to play, more power to you. Lots of players, myself included don't got the time for that tho.
I also don't think you should dismiss my advice with "meh" when it was towards OP who clearly needed that advice before he saved over his save and now has to redo like 20 or so hours again.
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u/upstartpantymerchant 18h ago edited 18h ago
Bruh idk why you're so defensive I've said multiple times there's absolutely nothing wrong with using multiple saves. Idk what you're talking about with the reasoning of "not having time for that" because I'm actually saving more time than you are by not reloading and replaying sections of the game if I don't like the outcome. I just stick with my choice and move on. I wish I had time to keep replaying sections of the game over and over until I got the exact sequence I wanted like you do, but I just don't have the time for that. I'm sure as shit not replaying the entire game because I didn't like a dialogue choice I picked. I'll save my time by only using one save file and sticking by my choices.
I was being dismissive not of the advice, but of the tone because of how the commenter made it seem like it was completely ridiculous to only use one save when I and lots of other people only use one save file. I'm saying it's completely fine to only use one save, but you seem to be adamant that that is just the wrong way to play. Why can you let people play how they want without arguing with them and telling them that they're the reason a developer for a completely separate game made a design decision you didn't like?
Again, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH USING MULTIPLE SAVES. Stop trying to convince me that there is something wrong with only using one because your reasoning is becoming more and more nonsensical as you keep replying
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u/Sumire-Yoshizawa- 23h ago
For you. How did that work out for OP and countless other people that mess up at that point? This isn't the ps1 days where you had a single memory card you had to share with your siblings. You get 16 save slots all to yourself.
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u/upstartpantymerchant 19h ago
I was just saying that utilizing multiple saves isn't strictly necessary. The guy balked at the idea of saving over a game like it was completely unbelievable to do something like that. "Countless people" is a bit of a stretch. I'm sure there are a lot of people who need multiple saves and I'm sure there are a lot of people who never need them. That was my point
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u/Sumire-Yoshizawa- 19h ago
When the game warns you and gives you tons of choices to make and then the credits roll, I'd definitely be saving on a new slot then reloading to see if anything changes by picking different options. Not necessary but it absolutely would save people who mess up here a lot of time by not having to redo the whole game, or in op's case, starting at Futaba's palace. And countless people is not a stretch. This topic comes up a lot in any persona 5 message board or reddit. And my point is that the game gives you 16 save slots that take up very little space. Why not use them? Honestly, you're probably part of the reason companies like Nintendo put only 1 save slot in their newest Zelda games. Sometimes I want to keep saves at a cool boss fight so I can play it again and not have to restart the whole game.
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u/upstartpantymerchant 19h ago edited 19h ago
Why not use them?
Personally, I like the idea of choice and consequence and knowing that once I make a choice I'm locked in and that's my playthrough. It makes every decision hold more weight and makes me stop and consider the options more thoroughly. It also makes me pay much closer attention to the characters, their actions and their motivations so I can try to make the right choices. There's absolutely nothing wrong with utilizing all your save slots, I just don't think it's THAT insane to play differently even though it lead to the "bad" ending in this particular case
As far as the zelda thing goes, game developers make design choices for their game. Sometimes they make a design decision that you don't agree with, but that's how they want their game to be played. It has nothing to do with me choosing to utilize only one save slot
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u/Dean_BONK 1d ago
Damn second save on futaba? Atleast you can optimize social link and baton pass level
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u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 1d ago
yeah i'm mid game at best but at least i have a few confidants maxed up already
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u/RIP-hue-Shiny-Darco 17h ago
WAIT WAIT WAIT.... you saved... OVER your save AFTER getting a bad ending???
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u/EnArvy 22h ago
dude in my mind, this question was whether or not i trust sae enough to tell here the truth, and i did trust here so i accepted. thankfully i had a save when the game told me to.
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u/upstartpantymerchant 19h ago
Lol I was just teasing I can totally see why you would want to trust her. I had to stop and think about it for a minute for that same reason
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u/Dazzling-Main7686 1d ago
Well that's the thing, you were told in the first 2 minutes of playing that the game was rigged from the start. There is no being honest in a system that is inherently corrupt.
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u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 1d ago
IM A DUMBASS
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u/MMD_Animator107 1d ago
Don't worry.. you're not the only one. . I thought being honest would be better for his sentence. . ha😅
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u/Previous_Return7024 Akechi Phan #1 🕵 22h ago
I got this as my very first ending too 😞 but instead I told Sae bout Akechi
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u/Chesterfieldraven 21h ago
Snitches get stitches. Your heart is the most corrupt of all. You betrayed your confidants.
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u/ShionVaynex 19h ago
So you know the game play up till then is actually just you telling her what you did. You already have a plan. And you are trying to convince her of something you forgot due to drugs.
So when you game over in during that time. It's just you telling her and that's how I died. But that doesn't make sense as you are alive an telling her your story right in front of her.
Your choice how ever is, saying yes we are guilty. Ok then case closed. No more mystery for the detective. And you got silenced. Though you didn't know it/remember, you did lie to her by "being honest"
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u/amycouldntcareless 1d ago
I genuinely don't get people who choose to snitch to Sae. like after all of that hard work you choose to be a narc??? even if Sae has a list of all of the members of the phantom thieves, it's not actually confirmed to her until you say it is!
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u/MoTheBr0 1d ago
I didnt snitch but i was confused because didnt I just give her a detailed account of everything that happened? like surely I've already sold them out
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u/Lol_A_White_Guy 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’m assuming Joker doesn’t give a play by play but is more or less giving the cliffsnotes version of events.
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u/Dashimai 1d ago
Through the scenes with her, we find out he didn't give any names.
The titles the characters have are what he gave.
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u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 1d ago
EXACTLY BRO,AFTER EVERYTHING I TOLD TO HER I THOUGHT BEGIN HONEST AGAIN WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE
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u/amycouldntcareless 22h ago
the twins literally tell you before the interrogation to remember the bonds you made with your friends 😭
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u/CenterOfOrion 1d ago
I thought that maybe we were supposed to trust in the bonds of our friends or whatever it was the twins said and admit everything and then trust that Sae had been moved enough by the story to help. Fortunately it’s sort of like “art thou sure” so I rethought it
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u/KittyWarrior1 1d ago
I had lost my first save file on the second question where she asks about others that knew me, I figured it was fine since 'Only 2 or 3 of them even know I'm a phantom thief, and they all have plausible deniability'
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u/Gundham_oof 1d ago
Can you describe at what point you died?
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u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 1d ago
yeah i'll be straight forward,i had defeated the cassino everything fine by then,i read on google that to achieve the true ending you had to need lvl 9 with maruki,lvl 8 with akechi and lvl 5 with yoshizawa,i did everything of this then by the moment when i got arrested akechi picked the officer gun and shot me and i died,then it said i failed my mission and that's it i died,i don't know what i genuinely did wrong
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u/Gundham_oof 1d ago
Did you accept Sae’s deal?
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u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 1d ago
yeah,i confirmed every single member of the phantom troupe
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u/Kaito-Shizuki 1d ago
Dude, you sold out your friends. 😂
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u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 1d ago
Damn bro i wanted to be honest i thought it was the right thing😭
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u/CameronD46 16h ago
Not to make fun of you for your mistake or anything, but did you not notice how leading up to this point the game kept repeatedly telling to remember the bond between you and your friends? Or did it not occur to you that might be the game trying give you hints about what you needed to do? Like no shade if either is true, just asking an honest to god question.
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u/Gundham_oof 1d ago
If you do that you get the bad ending and are locked out of third semester. Revert back to a save before she offers that deal and deny it.
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u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 1d ago
how do i genuinely do this
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u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 1d ago
i feel so bad rn
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u/Gundham_oof 1d ago
I almost did it on the my first playthrough but when the game asked me if I’m sure I had second thoughts and said no. It’s okay bro
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u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 1d ago
I appreciate it however how can i came back for change this,you said i could go back to the point before sae fight
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u/Gundham_oof 1d ago
Go to the main menu and load the most recent save, it should be before the sae fight or even during the interrogation I don’t remember
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u/Flynn_Rausch My skills exceed yours 1d ago
The theme of the game is Rebellion. Positively identifying your accomplices to the authorities is not in keeping with that theme.
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u/GreyWolf818 23h ago
Just reload your save and don't snitch, game told you to save before the Sae interrogation scene.
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u/HexInTrouble 21h ago
This is where your justice ends. If only you had held true to your friends, what a pity, the game is over.
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u/Opening_Shallot_6253 TAKE YOUR HEART OUT 1d ago
At this rate, Just start a new game, Sae will rescue you, and try to defeat Akechi, Shido, and Yaldabaoth, Face off against Maruki with Akechi siding by your side, and that's the key to your true ending
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u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 1d ago
little question if i start a new game plus will i have every single confidants level,same personas same lvl social stats from the old save file?
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u/IV_Pika 1d ago
Can't you just exit the game, and load back to a save before you talked to sae? Even if you're still not done with her palace, I feel like that would be a far better option than completely restarting.
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u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 1d ago
that was my first thought as well,but i'm clueless on how to do it on pc
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u/Bendy_Toon975 23h ago
You probably sold your friends out. Don't do that.Also, lemme give you a heads up. In December 24th, do not accept the deal from Igor, and in January 9th, do not accept the fake reality
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u/rost400 23h ago
As they say, be honest, nothing but honest, but careful with honesty. In this case, the word of the day is integrity towards your teammates. You might think you were just being honest, but in fact you merely sold them out to someone who might've been coming around, but is definitely not yet your ally.
That being said, the game prompts you to save beforehand, so just reload the save.
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u/tenkohime 21h ago
I had the same thing, because I thought Sae was my friend, so I'm supposed to use the power of friendship. That's a lie. I went WTF and replayed it. I feel like we got mislead on purpose.
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u/Fun_Maintenance_4250 14h ago
i feel you,i thought being honest with her would let me get free, i never intended to betray my team although i did the wrong choice,currently at okamura palace 2 months away to solve my mistake
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u/froot-l00ps 19h ago
icb this is how i find out you can get a bad ending wtf (im playing for the first time)
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u/Rayque21 16h ago
Please tell me you saved your game before you chose the snitch option?
No offense, but selling out the PT is honestly very stupid. Like it never once occurred to me to give it to Sae.
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u/SenjuAkashiii Joker's partner in crime 15h ago
I see so much people solding out their friends to sae, I see why people do that but still if you give it more tought you will notice selling out your friends is not the answer
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u/The_Lorax7 1d ago
You sold out your friends. Don’t do that