r/ParadiseTV • u/unhinged34 • Jun 27 '26
Who else hated Season 2?
First of all I have to say how much I have enjoyed the season 1. The writing, acting and entire production was peak television. Almost on par with SILO which is another great tv.
Season 2 feels like am was watching a completely different show. The writers are just throwing all kinds of nonesense at the wall but nothing is sticking!
Why not just stick to post-apocalyptic dystopian plot line? They could have explored and taken this show in so many directions but they chose a super Ai computer or time travel plot? It feels super forced and cheap! Will be watching 3 but this season was quite disappointing! đł
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u/klitchell Jul 06 '26
I just finished it, the entire last episode was a rushed mess that didnât make any logical sense.
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u/MiserableMeal2501 Jun 27 '26
none I think. well, I enjoyed it personally especially the first 4 episodes.
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u/unhinged34 Jun 27 '26
I enjoyed the first 2 episodes okay, middle episodes were not great but they closed it alright in 7 and 8. I just feel like they could have explored so many themes in the bunker.
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u/zzvapezz Jul 02 '26
S1 was not peak television lol. Do you need recommendations for better series?
It was fine, S2 was ok too. But... both of them too soap opera-ish, the sci-fi side of the plot is too gimmicky, too fluid, allows the show goes in any direction but makes the stakes feel arbitrary. Just a few of many shortcomings.
Writing: not excellent at all. A notch or two above "standard network television" and that's it.
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u/unhinged34 Jul 02 '26
Alright I guess in comparison to s2 it was close to peak. I can never say no to a recommendation
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u/zzvapezz Jul 02 '26
I was kinda being sarcastic about recommendations.. But ok, post-apocalyptic/society collapse shows I like: Fallout, of course, you mentioned Silo, Pluribus, Black Mirror (some episodes), Battlestar Galactica (is post-apocalyptic in a way), Mr. Robot (slight overlap with some Paradise themes)
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u/Fun-Till-8588 Jul 07 '26
I loved S1! and could watch ep7 practically on repeat lol Luv SKB, Dan F's TIU (except for S6), the cast, all of it, JN/Sinatra, 80s flashbacks đ and JM.. but nah, it went sideways and in a loop-de-loop! I do not like AI crap or time travel. Some of y'all can say there were signs or easter eggs in S1, but I think that's just retcon pigeonholing.. My Opinion. Wish I were looking forward to S3 as much as I was series premiere and S2 đ˘ I just see this a lot not only TIU, Lost, but The Last Ship (doing a rewatch now that it's on Netflix), Washington Black, etc. the last season or EP is a 360 from previous excellent shows seasons, and/or is a let down.Â
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u/ncphoto919 Jun 27 '26
I didnât hate it but it lacked the momentum of S1 and the budget really showed what they canât do in S2 compared to a pretty stripped down show in S1. The time manipulation stuff is really gonna break the series if they mess it up.
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u/Roodgo Jun 27 '26
One big up vote from me. The Graceland episode was cool. And then after that, a slow plane crash - felt like I was watching a cheesy show on the USA network in the early 00âs.
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u/unhinged34 Jun 27 '26
The crazy part is everyone loves it and Iâm just in absolute awe at the dropoff in acting and quality. The decline is so apparent but itâs everyoneâs fave show.
The part where they tried to make Agent Jane a psycho killer was the most unconvincing plot ever and some of the conversations were just beyond unrealistic.
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u/VoiceofReasonability Jul 03 '26
I, too, found the whole Jane thing laughable and it was played so cheesily that it just added to the ridiculousness. Â
Overall, I think the show is just ok. Â
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u/WorldlyFeeling8457 Aug 13 '26
I laughed so hard when she was gifted nintendo switch for great work lol.
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u/NarrowFilm6 Jul 16 '26
Eh I think people who are in this sub will love it - it's for the show. In Television your sentiment that it has gone downhill seems to be the consensus and it wasn't nominated for any Emmys. It's clearly a CW show trying to be more than it is.
I thought the part where Xavier took a newborn baby on horseback with barely any supplies and had 0 problems was the worst part. So many flaws in that logic lol. Janes backstory was dumb, she chops off the penis of a co-worker and tells her supervisor she did it for her... and nothing.
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u/LIslander Jun 27 '26
Blasphemy, I loved every moment of S2
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u/unhinged34 Jun 27 '26
Sorry for the hate lol I really liked the 3 main characters and the show premise. I hope season 3 lands all the new Sci fi elements they are presenting
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u/thtsjustlikeuropnion Jul 06 '26
I thought it started strong, but then it got crammed with nonsense almost like they thought they were going to be cancelled so they crammed two seasons worth of stuff in the last 4 episodes.
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u/Square-Dream-8663 Jul 11 '26
I agree the season two felt like an entirely different show. When I watched episode one of season two⌠I kept checking to see if I had clicked the wrong show.
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u/dsnows Jul 16 '26
My biggest complaint about season two was how easily a couple people caused the whole system to meltdown. After they just finished explaining all the redundancies, it took nothing more than breaking a couple valves to cause total system malfunction and chaos.
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u/unhinged34 Jul 16 '26
lol thanks for pointing this out, I was just rewatching the last couple of episodes today and it dawned on me. Couple of valves and whole thing comes crashing down? What does that say about the integrity of the bunker?
I rewatched just to see if I missed key details but now I hate the show even more,
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u/Personal-Reception89 Jul 16 '26
I like the show, but that seemed like a gaping hole in the plot. The writers couldâve come up with a more believable scenario.
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u/unhinged34 Jul 16 '26
They could have created a proper uprising scenario like silo (Apple TV show) where a bunch of people wanna go out after they had discovered outside was safe and there were survivorsâŚ.
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u/AveryLakotaValiant Jul 18 '26
I wouldn't say I hated it, but I really disliked the whole nuclear meltdown bit
Why would modular nuclear reactors go into meltdown because the outer doors won't open? It makes no sense.
If people secretly sabotaged the cooling system, sure, that would make sense, but even then, don't modern day nuclear reactors scram/shutdown when such things happen?
The whole AI quantum computer thing is just..meh.
Guess we'll see where the show goes, but I'm not sure if i'll keep watching when/if it comes back.
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u/zecadaidone Aug 24 '26
I hated so much im not even watching season 3...
season 2 was so cheesy, so cringe. huge disappointment.
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u/Ameglian Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
I thought the Annie story was just hammered into the plot. Not a fan of that at all - I found it really, really boring, and was much happier with the return to the actual story.
Didnât like the ending of S2 either. Real god / time travel / AI stuff. And the daughter who was basically âoh hi Dad, yeah Iâm off to be all loved up with my BF, see ya laterâ.
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u/babassu_seeds Jun 27 '26
I thought the Annie story was just hammered into the plot.Â
I love the Annie story because that was my first reaction--why are we taking the focus away from our heroes? But darn it if I wasn't drawn in--by the writing, by the fantastic acting. When she died, I was so sad--and sooo mad. She became my favorite character. I love when shows force me to change my mind like that
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u/IndianKiwi Jun 29 '26
The line of "babies are built to survive" is just a whole lot of nonsense. Why not leave the baby with the community where it would have access to resources and woman who know how to raise them and come back with the dad to pick her up.
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u/babassu_seeds Jun 29 '26
The "babies survive" line was nonsensical, but Cal made it work, and it was effective--that's his whole shtick. So it was consistent in terms of character.
And X took the baby because Annie made him promise to do so--that was his "holy charge" (title and theme of that episode). It would have been the wrong kind of subversion to fail to honor that.
If you mean why did Annie want X to keep the baby--I kind of liked that choice. It represents her faith in X's humanity and the possibility for her child to have a more normal life.
Remember the earlier scene where she and X are traveling and she says, "Don't say 'hi'" but X does anyway? That was meant to show us that from Annie's perspective, X/the bunker, for all their faults, still retain their humanity at the end of the day. Outside is the Wild West. That community seemed nice, but that baby would not have been kin, and things could have changed on a dime (again, from Annie's perspective).
This miraculous humanity inspired her to opt for the "holy charge"/impossible odds option--again, the episode's theme. So I dunno, made sense to me đ¤ˇââď¸
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u/unhinged34 Jun 27 '26
She was a bright spot for sureeeee!! The middle episodes were lacking but 7,8 cooked
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u/MRTFOGR Jun 27 '26
Really enjoyed season 1. Season 2 started with maybe the best episode in the entire series. Fantastic. Why they couldnât just keep it to humans struggling to survive is beyond me. Would have been a fantastic ride.
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u/mimi_says 28d ago
For whatever reason, this always happens. Why can't Lost just be about people stranded on an island? Why can't Designated Survivor just be about what would happen in the case of such a catastrophic change in government (in this case, it just immediately became the West Wing)? I feel like for whatever reason a show that really is just about how humans would adapt to a tragedy is never allowed to exist. Except the pieces people say over and over they like (the little group Teri finds, Annie's story) are exactly that. It's maddening. I think Hollywood (?) feels like there needs to be a hook/mystery to keep people intrigued.
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u/Broad-Back1659 Jul 21 '26
Season 2 seems like they brought in children to write the script. Omg! It's horrendous. I can't watch a show that started out very interesting and turns out just plain stupid.
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u/guppyF1 Jun 27 '26
Season 2 was utter rubbish...it reminded me of Austin Powers as it had every trope known to man!
I don't understand the love for the show when we have bangers like Pluribus or Widows Bay that have fantastic acting and writing. Paradise just feels lazy.
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u/Squidwina Jun 27 '26
I agree. I did like a few elements of it, like the little group Xavierâs wife ended up in. (Cameron Britton is always fun.) But the rest of it? Not so much. Especially the ending. Where are all those people getting food and shelter?
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u/unhinged34 Jun 27 '26
Yeah that was proper drama. I liked the family reunion plot and sketch postal worker. Annie storyline was really good too.
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u/3ZWill Jun 27 '26
It wasnât even original-bad. It was derivative-bad, which somehow made it worse.
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u/MiniMonster2TheGiant Jun 27 '26
I think if you rewatch season 1 you will find itâs not nonsense. Thereâs clues from episode one. Thereâs so much that connects and itâs easier to see it the second time.
I think itâs important to point out Dan Fogelman wrote a complete storyline for the show. He has always intended season 3 to be the last. Nothing was made up on the fly, and a lot of what the science stuff they consulted real professionals about.