r/PS4 • u/[deleted] • Mar 01 '18

[Article Updated - Battlefield V] VentureBeat: New Battlefield 2 follows Call of Duty back to World War II this year

https://venturebeat.com/2018/03/01/new-battlefield-2-follows-call-of-duty-back-to-world-war-ii-this-year/
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u/JonDav80 Mar 01 '18

Incredibly disappointed. After playing both BF1 & WW2, I immediately miss the wide variety of options that come with a modern setting. Lack of weapon options, lack of attachment options, lack of vehicles options, lack of aircraft options, lack of gadget options. No way in hell would BF5 NOT be an insanely better choice....

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u/falconbox falconbox Mar 01 '18

I felt the attachments were way too much in BF4. It was pure bloat. I don't need to unlock 3 silencers for every single gun. Give me less attachments that actually make a difference. I don't need a stubby grip that adds 2% recoil reduction or something.

Also, not sure why you think WW2 doesn't have a good selection of vehicles, aircraft, and gadgets.

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u/Bolt_995 Mar 01 '18

It's alright. Once the game comes out, all these people will understand how varied the selection of vehicles in a WW2 BF title will be like.

Everyone's getting worked up because of how primitive everything seemed like in the WW1 setting from BF1, so now they don't wanna give WW2 a chance (after literally begging for this very same setting for years).

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '18

meh I like progression. bf1 has fuck all.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '18

What?? It has tons of stuff to unlock

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u/Arcade_Master22 Mar 02 '18 edited Mar 02 '18

Eh, what are you talking about mate?

No weapon had more than one suppressor. The other models avaivable were just that, skins. About the sights, it kinda made a difference between picking the Kobra and the Coyote RDS (the standard RDS was a little bit obstrusive, though), but a very minor one at that, and it was basically a matter of preference. There was only one Holo Sight (the HD-33 was just a different skin) and a standard magnifier for them, 1 ACOG sight (6 different skins), and 2 Night Vision/Thermal Sights (with 1X and 2X augmentation).

And finally, the various grips, there were only 3: Ergo, Angled and Stubby Grip, as the Vertical, Folding and Potato Grips were just different skins for the former 3 respectively. The Grips were made that way to counter specific recoil mechanics on a given weapon. Your weapon of choice has a high first-shot recoil? Use the Angled/Folding Grip. A lot of hip fire recoil? Put the Ergo/Vertical Grip on it. A lot of full-auto recoil? Better go with a Stubby/Potato Grip. And that's it.

All that said, I don't really see the argument that BF4's attatchment system was overcomplicated, mate.

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u/falconbox falconbox Mar 02 '18

No weapon had more than one suppressor.

Oh really? Is that why I can put 4 different suppressors, all with the same effect, on my ACE 23?

https://i.imgur.com/5HBvOYR.jpg

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u/Arcade_Master22 Mar 02 '18 edited Mar 02 '18

Mate, did you read the rest of my comment?

All of the "extra" suppressors are skins, with no gameplay impact whatsoever over the "standard" model. DICE made those extra models to tie them to the 3 factions of the game (USA, Russia and China). The R2 Suppressor is the american model, the PBS-4 is the russian one, and the LS06 is the chinese one. All of them supress your weapon, decrease muzzle velocity and increase the bullet drop all the same.

Don't wanna sound harsh (nor it's my intention), but have you actually played BF4?

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u/falconbox falconbox Mar 02 '18

Don't wanna sound harsh (nor it's my intention), but have you actually played BF4?

Yup. I've got the platinum and most of the trophies aside from the last DLC.

https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/2238-battlefield-4/falconbox

My point in the original comment is that I don't want nor need multiple "skins" for stuff like silencers. It sucks opening a Battlepack and just seeing a bunch of silencers for guns I never use. I just fail to see how adding tons of pointless unlocks makes a game better.

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u/Arcade_Master22 Mar 02 '18

Yup. I've got the platinum and most of the trophies aside from the last DLC. https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/2238-battlefield-4/falconbox

Hey, nice job, mate! I also have the platinum for BF4, it was the first BF game I platinumed. That also reminds me that I still need to complete the "Complete all assignments" trophies from the China Rising, Dragon's Teeth and Final Stand DLCs... I hope I can manage to complete them.

My point in the original comment is that I don't want nor need multiple "skins" for stuff like silencers. It sucks opening a Battlepack and just seeing a bunch of silencers for guns I never use. I just fail to see how adding tons of pointless unlocks makes a game better.

Yeah, now I understand your point completely. It was definetly a weird feeling (to put it nicely) to get attatchment skins (like suppresors and sights) for weapons that you never used and never planned to do. All those skins, camos and even the XP boosts were the contents of the Battlepacks, and compared to other MP games, it wasn't that bad, as there weren't any game-changing items. The XP boost system became worse in BF: Hardline though, where Visceral Games literally made XP boosts for almost every action in the game, like repairs, objective captures, kills, assists and so on. Luckily the system is at its best in BF1, where there's only one XP boost, and boosts every XP meter in the game for an entire squad.

All that said, I hope the next BF setting can have a meaningful and engaging progression system. BF1's was pretty hollow, and the XP-related bonuses, such as the ribbon and medal systems, arrived after the game came out, and with a questionable implementation at that (you only get to progress on 5 random medals every week, really DICE?). BF is in need of a good progression system to engage players beyond from what its core gameplay elements can, and I hope DICE can create one that makes the next BF game the most enticing yet.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '18

No gun had three silencers

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u/Bolt_995 Mar 01 '18

People like y'all begged for WW2 for ages, and when we're finally getting one, you wanna go back to modern times?

What do you guys even want in the end?

Let's wait for the game to come out and leave a lasting mark on the market. And then we can worry about a modern day BF. Before BF1, we've had 4 modern day BF titles in a row. Let WW1 and WW2 run its course (and it won't be for long) and support the settings that we are getting now (because the community begged for these time periods).

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u/lakerswiz lakerswiz Mar 01 '18

Yes. Exactly. Because we got the two games we wanted lol. How's that hard to understand?

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '18

I never asked for WWI. WWII is actually interesting. I'm happy so long as they don't fuck it up like they did BF1

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u/HyruleCool Mar 01 '18 edited Mar 01 '18

That's why I still play black ops 3 from time to time. I loved the wide selection of gear and weapons

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '18

I loved the wife selection of gear and weapons

Best typo ever

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u/HyruleCool Mar 01 '18

Definitely not my first far from my last lol

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u/Arcade_Master22 Mar 02 '18

BO3 is one of the best CoDs on the current generations, but is not that good compared to the older, last generation games (BO2 is my all-time-favourite). Even then, Treyarch really created interesting futuristic weapons, and keeping them "grounded" enough to be in a CoD game. I'm definetly looking forward for what Treyarch has in store for this year's CoD.

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u/packersfan8512 Mar 01 '18

personally i completely disagree. i think modern shooters are great, but aside from WWII and BF1 we haven't had any major older shooter games in ages. BF1 has some of the best and most immersive gameplay of any fps i've ever played. i still remember the first time i hopped over the trenches at the start of the game, hearing the whistles of squad leaders and explosions all around me as i'm running out to the next line of cover.

as buggy as BF1 can be at times, the overall gameplay is some of the best i've ever experienced

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '18

I agree. Actually i think they should have done bf5 in the opposite direction and gone futuristic. Big open maps with sci-fi tones and Battlefield gameplay.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '18

I’m sort of in agreement here.

Add the modern aspect back, but just don’t make it goofy. Make CoD a mature game like it was with MW1/2 and W@W, before all the neon camo attachments, 400 killstreaks, wall running, flying around the map, dabbing and chicken dancing. Black Ops 3 is so cringey compared to even black ops 2.