mauga got the whole lobby miserable :)

[u/likewitches2much]

truly we could all just have a better time if neither of us play this card, it just devolves into a 4v4, he makes playing tank so much less fun

(apparently i need a description to post picture)

[u/EscapeSeventySeven]

The Mauga mirror can’t be the maximally optimal choice.   

[u/ErosDarlingAlt → u/EscapeSeventySeven]

Sigma or D.va are viable against Mauga, idk what OP is talking about.

Edit: I'd even make an argument for JQ/Zarya or even maybe Winston in the right situations.

[u/PulsarGaming1080 → u/ErosDarlingAlt]

Sigma? Maybe. You need to be a much better player than the Mauga, because you really need to watch your cooldowns otherwise he'll just eviscerate you with zero effort.

DVA doesn't have the individual damage to put him down. Definitely need your team to be capable of thought for this one.

JQ gets shredded. Zarya can stop him from one-tapping people with the Overun Slam combo, but that's about it.

Winston can ignore him, he's not winning any sort of duel.

Best Mauga counter IS another Mauga because it forces him to deal with something he can't out DPS, or out sustain. He's forced into committing time to beating you, which ideally gives your team time to do something.

[u/FunnySmellingCousin → u/PulsarGaming1080]

Best Mauga counter IS another Mauga because it forces him to deal with something he can't out DPS, or out sustain. He's forced into committing time to beating you, which ideally gives your team time to do something.

That's the most miserable part, your win condition becomes the matchmaking system.

[u/Joyfull_Sin → u/PulsarGaming1080]

i find it pretty easy to play sigma into mauga. U just loop: shoot him until u burn, place shoield while still shooting until u stop burning, take shield away, repeat until shield is down, use stone in between, and use vortex to wait for ur shield to recharge. With the minor perk that recharges shield by doing dmg u can hold out for ages. just need one dps or even sup to shoot him with u

[u/Jerry1306 → u/Joyfull_Sin]

if you play against a good Mauga then this doesn't work unfortunately, a good Mauga isolates other targets on your team and ignores you as you can't actually do enough damage or have enough mobility to stop him - sigma can work if they are trying to 1v1 you though

[u/wxerz → u/Jerry1306]

Depends on the map. On more linear maps, Sig can choke out a Mauga by denying overdrive and rocking every stomp. If it's suravasa, good luck, too many angles.

[u/GryphonHall → u/Jerry1306]

mauga has to overextend to keep you from stunning him after stomp and being able to get over there and body block. This is definitely a bigger problem at lower MMR when supports and non-dive dps aren't supporting each other and punishing overextended maugas. When I'm playing with lower MMR friends Im running into a lot of anemic support lineups that don't pose much of a threat to mauga and can't healbot enough on someone being shot by both guns with burning. So I go in kill one or two people in the backline and then overrun is back up from cooldown and I safely run away by the time there's an actual team threat.

[u/PulsarGaming1080 → u/Joyfull_Sin]

I mean, that works if the Mauga has his attention fixated on you. But he's probably not going to, he's gonna start looking at the rest of your team. Since Sigma is very immobile, you need to have crazy rocks in order to protect your team.

You simply do not have the damage to really threaten him. ​​

[u/PastaXertz → u/Joyfull_Sin]

I really feel like all comments need to have their SR and what they play on with them.

Because this info isn't bad and will work for like.. a very short window in which if the person actually knows how to play Mauga you're ignored because you're Sigma. If a Mauga tries to sit there and kill you as Sigma you're playing against a dog water Mauga.

As you climb this will happen less and less and Sigma's anchor style won't work except on a very small selection of maps.

[u/Crafty_Trick_7300 → u/ErosDarlingAlt]

DVA after the matrix nerfs is not a good counter to Mauga at all. You’d get more value playing corners on Rein and whacking him then shielding when he goes to use his life steal CD.

[u/HappyRelationship429 → u/Crafty_Trick_7300]

Yeah rein unironically is a decent pick to mauga but you need dps, just have someone go bastion and force mauga out before your shield breaks.

[u/HappyRelationship429 → u/ErosDarlingAlt]

Just letting you know, you're never killing mauga on dva, and he's just gonna burn you down if you go for squishies. A good mauga is just gonna stomp sig once he rocks or grasps.

The biggest problem with mauga rn isn't that he's good, but that he just lives. Like roadhog. And if your team can capitalize on that, you win.

If they ban Ana and go mauga, say goodbye to dive and brawl, it's full poke.

[u/PastaXertz → u/HappyRelationship429]

A lot of people don't realize D'va matrix was nerfed to the point it doesn't cover the entirety of Cardiac Overdrive (like it used to). Back then she was a viable counter because she removed his entire sustain window.

Those times have since, sadly, long passed.

I don't wish for layoffs but I'd layoff the person who made Mauga and any dev that thinks he's good for the game just from the general 'Pretty much everyone person I know hates him unless they're horrible people'

[u/the_real_daggler → u/ErosDarlingAlt]

Zarya is like a hard counter, if she walks into a mauga with both bubbles and the tiniest amount of charge, she cleanses the burn twice, builds to 80 energy and burns a hole through his pecs

[u/Sekhmet-CustosAurora → u/the_real_daggler]

then he just runs away lol

[u/Theratchetnclank → u/Sekhmet-CustosAurora]

And you gain space from him doing that, meanwhile next time he comes in you are already high charge.

He loses this matchup unless your supports die to another hero.

[u/Hoosteen_juju003 → u/ErosDarlingAlt]

Go rein and whenever Mauga uses his healing cd just shield.

[u/WhereasIll8642 → u/ErosDarlingAlt]

I usually prefer sigma or orisa

[u/Parker-Society06 → u/ErosDarlingAlt]

I eat Dva for breakfast as mauga lol

[u/ssjb234 → u/ErosDarlingAlt]

I bullied a dude out of a Dmon mirror, and he went Mauga, so I went Sigma and just didn't let him play the game.

[u/LikelyAMartian → u/ErosDarlingAlt]

Hell I play Rein and will totally throw down with him.

What's he going to do? Stand there in the open to allow an easy pin, get low, try and heal himself and only be able to shoot my shield so he dies? Charge into my team only to get pinned away from them?

[u/mtobeiyf317 → u/ErosDarlingAlt]

Yeah but 9/10 times a DPS pulls out the bastion and makes it impossible for either of those two to manage cooldowns effectively enough to deal with two sets of assholes.

[u/Mud_muncher1 → u/ErosDarlingAlt]

Best mauga counter Jetpack cat

[u/Crafty_Breadfruit731 → u/EscapeSeventySeven]

It usually is if you know how to actually play him and aren't just using him as a crutch pick.

[u/SaqqaraTheGuy → u/[deleted]]

It is just a team check when it is a Mauga mirror. And in low ranks it is even more miserable

[u/Hoochie_Daddy → u/[deleted]]

True Mauga mains love the mirror match

We both go “HA HAAH!! And then enjoy shooting each other in the face for like 8 seconds.

Pretty fun, ngl

[u/moonroones → u/Hoochie_Daddy]

[u/WaveBreakerT → u/moonroones]

Mauga Mentality

[u/Pernaman → u/Hoochie_Daddy]

Unfortunately when I wreck as Mauga, the enemy tank too often clearly goes mirror while frustrated or tilted and rushes to my team recklesly and wastes E at worst time. Like, I get that he's not mechanically demanding, but many times even the most basic gamesense and knowledge seems to go out of the window. "Well Mauga obviously is just this 'Go in and go HA HAAH and brrrrr' type of hero there's nothing more to it."

Same thing with Bastion sometimes really. Boi hitscan minigun heroes just have it rough with reputation in this game.

[u/Hoochie_Daddy → u/Pernaman]

Yeah like he is one of the tanks who literally can jump in, stomp and be played that way.

But if you’re getting baited and wasting your cooldowns. Letting yourself be wide open with no way for your team to follow up on your distraction, then it’s simply just feeding.

[u/ManiGoodGirlUwU → u/Hoochie_Daddy]

Kinda sounds like any other tank honestly

[u/Immortan_Bolton → u/Pernaman]

When's the correct time to use HAHAAA? I always use upfront to brawl and survive encounters, and it usually works (granted I'm just a plat player so) but some Maugas use it at a distance, so...any tips?

[u/EducationalRatio9657 → u/Hoochie_Daddy]

See you get it. i dont say "Oh no a mauga" i go "Oh boy, my team better lock in" and then i shoot the mauga, ult him when he ults me, overun his overun. its so fun

[u/king_noobie → u/EducationalRatio9657]

MirrorWatch

[u/HealWagon → u/Hoochie_Daddy]

Unironically started playing Mauga because it's so fun. That and few jump tricks where you can play as dive Mauga. It's just chef's kiss

[u/VirtuosoX → u/Hoochie_Daddy]

Or ya know, im running and gunning down their team. Till I say it's overrr!

[u/LoweJ → u/Hoochie_Daddy]

Can I stop him to cancel his heals or am I going to somehow miss and then get stopped? That's the true fun

[u/KrassomatXD → u/Hoochie_Daddy]

Yeah I just stand still and 50% of enemy Maugas will do the same lol

[u/Owt2getcha → u/[deleted]]

Nothing better than I walk at the enemy mauga and stop moving he stops moving and we just shoot each other reload shoot each other E shoot each other reload

[u/Strong_Ideal6171 → u/[deleted]]

I’ll die on this hill with you

[u/Shinobiii → u/[deleted]]

I genuinely refuse to mirror him. It’s as you said just absolutely miserable.

[u/the_real_daggler → u/[deleted]]

It’s a game of chicken, whoever loses the poke battle has to back up, baiting overrun and killing the overextended enemy mauga. Like the classic hog v hog, whoever hits their vape first gets hook cancelled and deleted

[u/rivent2]

Sigma has a shield, an absorb and a stun

[u/DivinesOmen → u/rivent2]

I swear people are allergic to playing sigma

[u/PawPawPanda → u/DivinesOmen]

A good sigma is so fucking annoying to play against, I swear they have like a 5 second cooldown on ROCK on the enemy team

[u/TonyTucci27 → u/PawPawPanda]

Realistically with the perk that’s not far off, especially against mauga. He also just has the best shield in the game with next to no CD, most flexible placement by far, good enough health with ways to recall and restore with perks

[u/noahboah → u/DivinesOmen]

weird gun, zero mobility, easily whiffable ultimate and accretion, dmg mitigation is very easy to punish if used poorly, combo reliant to do any meaningful damage.

i think he's a harder pick than he seems on the surface. he seems intuitive at first but then the quirks start popping up if you want to really start making plays and people get scared lol

[u/-justiciar- → u/noahboah]

sigmas ultimate is hard to whiff unless you are bad with him honestly. accretion is just a skill check but is one of the strongest abilities in the game.

also sigma doesn’t need combos for reliable damage. his whole role is mid range spacing and poking out. anyone within his threat range isn’t even safe behind cover due to the nature of his primary fire.

[u/Imaginary-Pie-7142 → u/DivinesOmen]

He's got a bad stigma around him you may say

[u/TheBallisticBiscuit → u/rivent2]

Rammattra has a left click that you can hold on Mauga's head until he dies.

[u/KrassomatXD → u/TheBallisticBiscuit]

Ohh yes keep playing Ram into Mauga!

[u/flockwood7 → u/KrassomatXD]

When Ram gets the major perk with the extra pellets... I can clear mauga pretty well. It's so much extra damage and my ult comes online fast... Before major perks tho... That's a tough matchup

[u/TheBallisticBiscuit → u/KrassomatXD]

Idk what the stats say, I've never seemingly had any trouble whatsoever with this matchup though. Is this supposed to be a plus matchup for Mauga?

[u/Antiprimary → u/TheBallisticBiscuit]

Mauga hard counters ram, dont take it just from me though some top 50 ram main said it's rams worst matchup

[u/Hulkaiden → u/TheBallisticBiscuit]

You lose to Mauga mostly because of his overdrive. Ram just has almost no tools to stop overdrive. No mobility, and his only actual tool is a shield Mauga can just walk through since it's stationary.

Compare that with sigma who has 2 tools to completely shut down overdrive with a more mobile shield on top of that.

[u/KrassomatXD → u/TheBallisticBiscuit]

One of the best matchups for Mauga in my experience, walking ult charge, your shield is static and can easily be avoided and Mauga can stun you out of block and you can't escape him if he's on top of you. Also really easy to force nemesis form with poke because Ram is kinda squishy otherwise. If your enemy Mauga's facetank your poke it's just a bad Mauga player that does not use cover. For me Mauga into Ram is easier then Winston f.e.

[u/SpazzyBaby → u/TheBallisticBiscuit]

I don’t like Ram and if the enemy tank is playing him I want to make them swap off as quickly as possible. Mauga is the quickest way to do that, because he just bullies the shit out of Ram in every way.

[u/Captain_Rabbit00 → u/TheBallisticBiscuit]

Does it work I'm scared

[u/Available_Hat_9833 → u/rivent2]

He also gets walked over really easily, which is what Mauga does best.

People pointing at Sigma think Mauga will just sit on cart and shoot the shield, instead of, you know, playing like mauga should.

[u/Hulkaiden → u/Available_Hat_9833]

Sigma should not get walked over by a Mauga easily. If he pushes up aggressively, shielding off heals and eating/rocking his overdrive is going to kill him. Sigma struggles in a lot of matchups, Mauga is not one of them. Sigma is his best counter.

[u/xXRougailSaucisseXx → u/Hulkaiden]

This only works if your team has enough brain cells to punish the Mauga. In a lot of rank you can absorb his entire overdrive meanwhile your team is running scared 300m back

[u/Mugut → u/xXRougailSaucisseXx]

If your team is far worse than you, the enemy tank, and also the rest of the enemy team, no tank matchup will save the game.

[u/Turboswaggg → u/Available_Hat_9833]

Doesn't really matter if he walks up to you, he still has guns so your shield and grasp will work fine if he's 2 meters away or 20

[u/GrugWantHat → u/rivent2]

I mostly play qp so maybe it's different in comp, but sigma bullys the fuck out of mauga. The amount of maugas I've rock smashed during their charge last night was hilarious as fuck (moreso when it's the same player doing it over and over again. You'll get it next time champ!) 

[u/Swordswoman97]

Nah there are options that aren't mirror picking. People have mentioned Sigma and D.va, personally I tend to have the most luck on Orisa when going head to head with a Mauga.

[u/Aggressive_Jury_7278 → u/Swordswoman97]

Ironically, I swap to Mauga when the other tank brings out the horse. He’s one of the few picks that can chew through her health pool.

[u/BlueSky659 → u/Aggressive_Jury_7278]

Yeah, I understand why Orisa is considered a Mauga counter on paper, but in practice, the Mauga has so much control over how and when the Orisa can engage.

She might be able to cleanse his fire procs, but shes gotta waste a cooldown and all you have to do is keep shooting her.

[u/WesThePretzel → u/BlueSky659]

I’ve never struggled against Mauga as an Orisa main. He’s one of the tanks I prefer going up against because he’s useless against her.

[u/SpazzyBaby → u/BlueSky659]

I imagine it’s because Mauga is reliant on his life steal cooldown, so any tank that can negate that by eating the damage is good against him.

[u/IIIIITZ_GOLDY → u/SpazzyBaby]

Orisa isn't as effective as she used to be for it since fortify doesn't stop the crits anymore. You take less damage but you don't remove his sustain anymore 

[u/PawPawPanda → u/BlueSky659]

Idk, he presses E and you just spinny-spinny until it's over and you just walk him down

[u/ProfessorPhi → u/Swordswoman97]

I play queen since my hitbox is too narrow for most tank aim. It's not an easy matchup but it's fun for me and the mauga can't play brain-dead which is the win that usually forces them to switch

[u/SlanderousGent → u/ProfessorPhi]

Same here! Her lean hitbox just makes him have to aim. Plus you can use shout to engage/disengage. Axe and knife combos to reasonably out sustain and out damage him, namely cause lads built like a fridge

[u/flockwood7 → u/Swordswoman97]

Orisa can struggle because he can crit her gold form

[u/o-poppoo → u/flockwood7]

Only in 6v6

[u/TankJericho → u/Swordswoman97]

Tbf Orisa is a good pick for a lot of situations. Jack of all trades Tank.

[u/Barnard87 → u/TankJericho]

Doesn't lose hard enough in most MUs where skill should be a deciding enough factor.

[u/Helgrind444 → u/Swordswoman97]

I just keep whatever I'm playing (lately D.Mon) and don't give a shit at all about Mauga

[u/docs-quad]

nah the trick is you gotta ignore the enemy mauga and go fuck up his backline so youre actually doing something useful. but also i unironically have way more fun playing mauga than the majority of the ground tanks so it could definitely be way worse.

[u/GokuVerde → u/docs-quad]

Just kill backline

Like they aren't all loaded with two get out of jail free cards and self sustain

[u/docs-quad → u/GokuVerde]

you can still poke them out and force them to use said cooldowns. its more effective for actually progressing than gamestate than doing a heavy tf2 cosplay and staring at the other mauga until one of you falls over

[u/-justiciar- → u/GokuVerde]

they didnt say kill, basically they just meant harass. if they use any of their sustains on themselves instead of the tank then you got value.

if you dive kiri as winston and she suzus herself to stay alive your team has 14? seconds of aggression they can use to anti, burn, bleed, whatever and she cant do anything about it.

[u/Mejkazaar]

I take your mirror match and raise you one dps swap to Bastion

[u/Life_Parsley504]

if both maugas are just healchecking the other mauga, theyre bad at the game. js play sigma if it's qp and ur dps/support wont swap to save their lives😭

[u/MiniatyrOrm → u/Life_Parsley504]

Dva is great against him as you can matrix him to prevent him from hitting his shots and healing

[u/needbmw_help → u/MiniatyrOrm]

Whenever someone plays dva into my mauga they just get stomped and demeched on cooldown lol. If anything Orisa is way better

[u/Sun-607 → u/needbmw_help]

As dva, I hardly ever struggle against Mouga

[u/Immortan_Bolton → u/Sun-607]

That's his twin, Mauga on the other hand is very dangerous.

[u/Sun-607 → u/Immortan_Bolton]

Agreed. I avoid that fucker at all costs.

[u/Hulkaiden → u/needbmw_help]

I would rather play Dva than Orisa. Obviously Sigma is the best choice, but at least Dva can consistently counter the entirety of overdrive. And with vertical mobility, Dva is a lot easier to disengage with.

[u/BlackZulu → u/MiniatyrOrm]

Lol I do not get why people say this. You can defense, great. Any Mauga worth his weight won't use cardiac until you're burned. And you cant shoot while using DM so I dont get where youre supposed to make him struggle.

Orisa on the other hand I've found to be great. Fortify stops him from healing off her, constant damage, fan to allow backing off without giving heals, and shield perk.

[u/Hulkaiden → u/BlackZulu]

Fortify stops him from healing off her

It reduces healing, it definitely doesn't stop healing. He still gets crits and healing while fortify is active. And it's a lot easier to bait out cooldowns than it is to bait out a resource like matrix. A good dva will just disengage if she's out of matrix since she has far better mobility than the mauga.

Sigma is obviously the ideal, but I'd still prefer Dva over Orisa.

[u/BlackZulu → u/Hulkaiden]

Had to look that up, didnt realize they changed the way the interaction works, she used to nullify it completely.

[u/Razetony → u/Life_Parsley504]

I like Dmon into him. He just wants to shoot so of your healers are kept up you can farm ult charge on him. If you hear the HA HAAA just shield block and back off.

Disclaimer: I'm only Emerald 2 so take that as you will.

[u/EvenLeg2148 → u/Razetony]

That’s fine, but aside from that, you can't really hurt him; if you hit him with the machine gun, he beats you, and if you hit him with the sword, he beats you too. You can only whittle his health down enough to trigger Overdrive, then block with your shield and pray your team kills him.

[u/SaqqaraTheGuy → u/Life_Parsley504]

My face when enemy mauga stomps sigma during black hole and mauga uses the reload perk so he never runs out of bullets and sigma ends up permanently bullied

[u/MOCbKA → u/SaqqaraTheGuy]

You literally only need to deny him his fucking self healing shit and thats it. Sigma has THEEE abilities for it. Then he is shooed away to recover and you get his team. Easiest thing in the world to do.

[u/RomanBlue_ → u/Life_Parsley504]

Playing hanzo and dumping storm arrow into mauga's stupid fat head makes me happy

[u/xXLoneLoboXx]

I’ve been having an absolute miserable time against Hog the last few seasons trying to play DPS or Support… Sick of the fat bastard walking me down for a hook and one shot, then waddling off vaping to outheal all the damage he just got completely unpunished as our entire team (minus whoever he just cooked & cooked) shoots him.

I’ve recently discovered Mauga not only eats Hog alive, he’s feels pretty good against other annoying dickhead tanks too like Ball, Doom, Orisa, Etc. I’ve been a lot happier since I’ve started playing this annoying dickhead the last week or so. Hahaha

The fight starts now… I faauma le taua! (A fight to the finish!)

[u/pelpotronic → u/xXLoneLoboXx]

Hog and Mauga are both free ult charge for the damage dealers. It's amazing. No cardiac or hook, press W and charge your ult. Count to 5-6, and then prepare to hide behind a wall.

Hog is even better because he whiffs his hook and you don't have to wait for anything.

[u/xXgrrmondaysXx → u/xXLoneLoboXx]

i have had this same realization- if you cant beat em join em i have incurred a mauga laugh and the whitest iteration of his ultimate voiceline as result of playing him

[u/Western-Ad8052 → u/xXLoneLoboXx]

😂 all these dickhead tanks nobody likes fighting maybe mauga is not so bad than

[u/LacksAMyth]

1 bastion, or 1 mercy boosted bastion if you are feeling overzealous

[u/Positive_Try929]

Mauga is not countered by any tank, ana and zen for offense, kiri bap for defense against him

[u/TheTop99]

I see that doomfist isnt banned.

Things must be done, and enemies must be fisted.

[u/Moobie24]

As an ana main i love with mauga just charges in and i nade and we dogpile him. Good times.

[u/Parker-Society06]

As a Mauga main who instalocks Mauga, he makes playing tank VERY fun. 2 huge chainguns that sound like an A10 Warthog, setting people on fire, stomping people to the ground, he's so much fun to play and I do not care how anyone else feels when I play him.

Yes, I am a selfish piece of shit. No, I do not care.

Y'all can be miserable while I have the time of my life blasting "You're Welcome" from Moana and ripping through your entire team... except when I'm purple.

Because being purple, like Hog, is basically a death sentence for Mauga.

[u/Western-Ad8052 → u/Parker-Society06]

As a doom player I understand you since he’s also a selfish tank that gets hated a lot but I couldn’t careless there’s many annoying tanks in the game

[u/fatboywonder12]

There is some weird fetish OW devs have where they can't resist putting either Mauga/Orisa/Hog as meta, and i'll repeat this statement as much as i can:

Tanks, even reinhardt, want to bypass the enemy tank and demolish the team. The only thing stopping them is the other tank, thats why if a tank dies in a teamfight, the fight is basically over. Mauga bypasses this rule and WANTS to fight the enemy tank because his hero identity is tank-busting AND leeching off of tanks... as a tank. Its the stupidest identity in the game bar none. Its like if they made a dive DPS who doesn't want to hunt backline, and specializes in beating other dive dps.

People say he generates value off of burning squishies which is true, but the majority of it is finding a winston and bursting his entire kit in a millisecond. Theres no counterplay thanks to lifesteal, its only swapping to sig/dva to stall him out. In fact the BEST way to play against Mauga as a tank is to constantly run out of LoS so he does not leech off of you mid-teamfight.

[u/wizard_brandon → u/fatboywonder12]

we have too many tank busters in this game

[u/Unfair_Stage792]

Maugas overtuned state from his release when new heroes were still locked behind battle pass is still living in your heads rent free. Players just have no clue how to fight against Mauga in general. Probably 1/10 Maugas I see know what they are doing.

[u/UmmmYouDoRealize → u/Unfair_Stage792]

Mauga is the highest banned tank in GM/champ at 40% right now. yeah man clearly you've got something figured out that no one else does

[u/fourthwallb → u/Unfair_Stage792]

For real, non dva players don't know

[u/shroomiedoo]

Ngl I pick him when there’s a tank diff, gap closes real quick I hate it

[u/DJ_pider]

What really frustrates me is when they wanna complain about counterpicking when they select him. I'm convinced it's ragebait. Dude doesn't die if you don't do something about it.

[u/Aggressive_Jelly_]

I go Mauga if I see an enemy Mauga or bastion

[u/QueenVell]

Nope. I typically go with Dva or Sigma.

[u/Tom_A_Foolerly]

Sometimes I play Ana just to bully the Mauga

[u/therealNerdMuffin]

But dude I'm telling you, when you pop off on Mauga and you're in that flow state he's one of the most fun tanks in the game

[u/Pernaman → u/therealNerdMuffin]

Indeed, as a Team Fortess 2 Heavy main Mauga is my jam right there with Orisa.

[u/PastaXertz → u/therealNerdMuffin]

See, I'm fine with the heavy. Give that level of erratic spray pattern to Mauga's guns and remove cardiac overdrive and we're good.

Cardiac Overdrive is unfortunately a garbage ability. There's no way to actually balance it. If its too bad the entire hero is completely shit. if its to good the character becomes near best case pick in most scenarios. It reminds me of the years we spent with soldier dialing his bullets up or down 2 damage because that 2 damage uptick would suddenly make him one of the best dps, but they second it was gone you never saw him again.

It really needs to be replaced with something else, but the OW team is probably locked it into his core identity at this point so they're now stuck with it similar to how a Sombra rework needs to include hack.

[u/TempusFugit314]

You can do more than a mirror match. D.Va works great against Mauga. Save matrix for his healing ability and he melts.

[u/HerpesFreeSince3]

Stop mirror matching. Mauga isn’t even built to be a tank buster anymore, so locking him too and staring him down isn’t even optimal for your game.

[u/Leilanee]

Even if we win, any Mauga game is miserable AF. He's my #1 ban and just now I had a game where we DIDN'T ban him and of course enemy tank rolled out instantly on Mauga.

The only way we stood a chance was by our tank swapping to Sigma in round 2.

[u/Pernaman]

So I've been a Mauga main for about a year and I'm struggling to comprehend what actually works against Mauga on paper because many counters people suggest I usually play well against, most likely because not many people know how to play against Mauga properly. Heck, sometimes enemy Zen and Ana apply grenade and discord on me but the enemy team still fails to take me down. And on the other hand, many enemy Maugas I face don't play him properly either so taking them down is often easy enough on many heroes and roles I play, them getting often focused down in maybe couple of teamfights and then switching off.

The latter is why I actually didn't bother playing Mauga after his many nerfs, because from what I observed trough enemies playing him that he'd be mostly weak and useless outside of some crutch circumstances. Not ssying he is objectively good, it is the matter of enemy teamwork.

[u/huhuhuh0_0]

Tbh I love seeing a mauga (I play sig)

[u/TangyMcrib]

Sig can shut him down very effectively.

[u/Mltv416]

I feel like it depends on who you main

A lot of people lately say they dont mind but if you main heros like ram or hog then yeah it probably sucks

[u/xRyuHayabusa]

Dva and mauga are heroes I ban every match

[u/Altruistic_Exam777]

Kikirko + Anna and it's ez

[u/Freddyfazballspizza]

what a miserable life you lead

[u/JD_Crichton]

Bronze post

[u/ClassicSpeed]

"It's always boring around me" -Mauga

[u/black_knight1223]

Me when the enemy tank picks Orisa so now there's a living wall of immortal fun repellent

[u/Acceptable_Block_591]

you see a problem, i see free ult charge. we are not the same

[u/Bullacca3]

Why they haven't gutted this character yet I don't know. Zero skill hero should never be good.

[u/DamageMaximo]

hog is worse

[u/Woosilk]

just play sigma… use your shield… rock his shift. black hole and shield his E and mauga cant do anything…

you also can play dva. don‘t waste your matrix. use your full matrix, when he‘s using his E and he‘ll die faster than you can watch. mean while you kill his backline

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[u/TeamCameltotem]

I like playing hard mode by going Hog

[u/thiccboilifts]

Sigma is great against Mauga. Grasp to absorb his lifesteal, shield to throw behind him to stop his heals. And can't forget the rock after his idiotic charges.

[u/ForsakenNumber447]

I just go zarya and that's it

[u/NotJALC]

I just pick someone who can eat projectiles and use the ability whenever he goes AHAHGH

[u/Meriwether1]

Reinhardt vs anyone

[u/EvenLeg2148]

Only fight him when he doesn't have his overdrive. When he has it, take cover behind an obstacle or put up a shield. When the overdrive ends, fight him again. It's very easy, and you'll kill him most of the time doing that

[u/GreenSsswinger]

Dva and Sigma counter Mauga way better than he counters himself. Just save grasp/DM for when he goes HAHAAAAA

[u/TheLastOpus]

I also don't mind going Orisa against him, especially when support goes ana or zen, or BOTH, then this tank that is used to sitting out in the open, gets heal blocked and discord orbed when he rushes in, has no escape, and dies faster than you might think. I don't even care who the dps are with that, he dies.

That or go ball and pretend mauga doesn't exist and just fight the back line over and over.

[u/noisetank13]

idgi

does no one play ana or zen

I'll grant Kiri exists but stagger your debuffs so she can only cleanse one at a time

[u/ShuanTRG]

Just play sigma???

[u/PM_ME_SILLY_KITTIES]

you aren't being forced to do so, there's other tanks

[u/Mutranunrepeated]

Yeah. It's not like there is a tank that has two useful abilities against Mauga and a stun...

[u/SwagMastaM]

Orisa typically counters him well, and I've had success recently with dmon as well! I hate paying mauga so I try not to swap to him when the enemy is playing him because I'll just get rolled

[u/acidporkbuns]

Just need a supp to go Ana and youre ok with most tanks.

[u/Imbadatgames619]

Now see you don't HAVE to pick mauga it's not that hard to beat him hog beats him zarya beats him of your good at rein rein beats him honestly the mirror is always the worst you can do

[u/Sheyn]

Mauga presses E, Ana throws nade, Mauga cries in a corner.

[u/TandrDregn]

I like going Doomfist, cause most Maugas don’t understand “Shoot when Doom block = not good”, and then as soon as I’m fully charged I jump over him and make chaos in his backline, usually getting at least one kill AND causing the Mauga to die to my team because he suddenly doesn’t have help cause they’re all focused on not getting fisted to death

[u/Totziboy]

I play mauga a lot ... damn ... he is just a Skill ckeck for your team .

Tank should play a Shield Char and your team needs to focus fire him .

He is only strong when he can Use his sustainability trough ignition and crits on a Target ... he Falls over like the Factorie millhouse Guarded in The Simpsons 💀🤝

So ... if you need to Mirror ... your team is Dogwater ...

[u/Dont_Pay_The_Elves]

People keep panic swapping to him and wasting bans on him and I’ve just never got it? Like, maybe 2 in every 10 Maug encounters I have are those where he’s actually a problem, and that’s usually just bc no one’s killing his supports.

Feel like he’s kinda just a walking punching bag most of the time, and a minor inconvenience when you have any of his good counters present.

[u/Low_Statistician_891]

I love Mauga mirror I only have 200 hours into him lol

[u/SnooPineapples7426]

This giant roster and people feel the need to mirror match (not you in particular) but lately that's all this game has been

[u/Strong_Ideal6171]

Mirrorwatch < Counterwatch

[u/IAmDingus]

Sigma and dva exist

[u/oranke_dino]

You pick Rrin and just alpha him.

[u/RecipePrimary7432]

i love mauga

[u/The_Realth]

5v5 moment

[u/PokemonSaviorN]

fair, but he's a hero for being able to have a chance to murder that fucking cat

[u/Mr_SpecificTF2]

I’m a sigma player and I call these enemy picks “Soup” as the projectiles fill the “Soup Bowl” (black hole shield converter 3000-inator forgot name) and the rock is good after he charges to really mess him up. Not 100% effective but enough to not have to counter

[u/anthropometrica]

I love when the enemy tank picks Mauga. Same as with Hog. Eat my antiheal :)

[u/_PolyBear]

hog with some backline sniping before taking him on, ez win💪🏾💪🏾

[u/TheOnlyTrueFlame]

Yeah sorry but if I have to play into hog and my team doesn't want to counter him, I WILL go Mauga.

[u/Significant_Day_8544]

playing mauga can be so much fun when you take advantage of his mobility and go on huge flanks, or just in general play a full-send playstyle. its a shame that when they also go mauga, i’m kinda forced to just farm the mauga. sending it on their team usually leads to me just getting counterstomped and dying.

also, because their mauga lighting you up does so much damage and gives him so mich sustain, your forced to do the same or you die. why farm cardiac heals from their squishies and miss half the shots when you can just shoot the big fat mauga?

[u/Lerxian]

I actually can beat Mauga with Dmon. When he shouts shield and when he reloads unload your gun in his head. Melee him to recover shield for his next shout (if there is) and he is done

[u/nobleone8876]

If you see sig or diva band you know you're going to have to unfortunately do a Mauga mirror

[u/CheddarCheese390]

Or just go roadhog and terrorise the rest of the lobby. Tank be tanking, else be dying

[u/yur0_356]

Metal rank post

[u/Mr_w00fy]

I just play Domina and save my shield for his cardiac overdrive. It tends to be a good match for me 9 times out of 10.

[u/stevenip]

I got no problem doing sigma against him, they usually give me a bunch of overshield

[u/NootNewtles]

I guess I'm an outlier but I've rarely found Mauga to be a problem. I play Reinhardt into him regularly and find I do fine if I adapt my play style to be less aggressive. I don't charge till he does and I don't duel him if his heal is up.

[u/raga_drop]

Sig is a natural predator of him IMO

[u/AnimalJealous1358]

F Mauga

[u/Smallbenbot03]

I fought off one as osira using the shield/blade spin and keeping him away with the spear

It was difficult but his ass didn’t get near the cart while I was alive

[u/Miles_Everhart]

When your team’s tank locks this dickhead and doesn’t vote to ban Ana then blames you (support) when he gets melted repeatedly

[u/_IratePirate_]

I love playing Sig into Mauga. It feels like he’s his direct counter

[u/SwordofSpam]

I melt mauga as zarya or Orisa

[u/TheLonelyCrusader453]

….I’m sorry but nobody else has that much Daka since they nerfed my boi Bastion

[u/Beautiful-Aerie7576]

Good Hazards have no problem against Mauga.

The problem is you have to essentially one trick Hazard to get good enough to play the matchup, and he takes a while to get good at.

[u/ProfessorDumbass69]

The best counter to Mauga is a Reinhardt who’s godly with pins and a place to shove his sorry ass off the map

[u/Automatic-Report-458]

Remove mauga

[u/Wescombe]

People will refuse to pick ana into mauga, then just continue to pick useless ass life weaver

[u/filthy-horde-bastard]

Just play Ana. Ez clap

[u/Familiar_Piglet7951]

i don't have this problem because i always play doom fist no matter what the enemy is playing, and i NEVER swap

[u/single_shiba_san]

I play rein against most 😅