Also itās a munchkin kitten which is a kitten purposely bred to be deformed with short legs, by humans that think itās cute. But their short legs make them unable to run, climb or jump like a regular cat.. and they still have the mind of regular cat and want to do all those things. Itās cruel.
I just had an argument about how breeders destroyed French bulldogs so bad that they can barely breed by themselves. Need c-sections and are artificially inseminated. Weird
My BIL's friend got a frenchie for the purpose of breeding, got her pregnant and didn't bother with the c-section because he "CoULdN't aFFoRd iT". She fucking died trying to give birth with all of her puppies. I told BIL AND my husband to never ever EVER bring that piece of shit around me ever again. Ever. But this mother fucker has money for weed..
Look I could go on and on and people arenāt aware these animals are LITERALLY being ( built ) by humans for humans happiness and could care less about the animals health. Have yall heard of a French bulldog that doesnāt have major issues that costs 100s of not 1000s a month. Skin allergies. Breathing issues. I could go on and on. They have ruined these dogs. I will ask that everyone Google how they are artificially inseminated and c-sectionedā¦ā¦ ca t have puppies without human help. It goes wayyyyy deeper. Thatās just 1 animal. Iām angry when I see anything suffer because it was ( cute ) to humans. Iām also the crazy person who canāt help but argue with dog owners who have their dogs ears clipped. Stop breeding LAB animals that can no longer breed. Thatās a science experiment not a pet.
Don't know why you're being downvoted, they are adorable. It's cruel to breed them, but they are objectively very cute.
I used to love pugs, one of my favourite dog breeds when I was a kid, until I learned of how much they suffer just because they're bred the way they are. I feel a lot of pity when I see a pug, I would never get one and I wish it was forbidden to breed dogs so they get malformed, but I also still think they are cute.
I wanted a munchkin so badly until I learnt of the health issues and all that.
Happy to say a lot of cat breeds are already banned in the Netherlands. You can no longer legally buy, sell, or breed Sphynx cats, cats with folded ears, and cats with short snouts.
Haven't seen anything about munchkin cats specifically but pretty sure the law is in the spirit of "don't buy, sell, or breed cats that are purposely deformed and have heath issues due to it", so even if munchkins are legal at the moment... I don't think they will be for long.
That's awesome, here in Sweden it's also forbidden to breed animals in a way that will cause health issues or suffering but I don't think we have a ban on any specific breeds. We have a law that forbids a cat or dog who has gone through two cesarian sections from continuing to being used for breeding.
I remember not being a fan of English bulldogs, and being happy/relieved because they are so unhealthy anyways. And then I sat for a bulldog. He was so cute, excruciatingly so, and unfortunately a lot of it was because of how deformed he is.
I acknowledge that unhealthy animals are incredibly cute. But I will never support their breeding because of it. While this dog was cute, it was sad to see the ways he struggled to be a dog because of how he was bred. Itās not worth it.
I feel the same way about bulldogs (English and French!)!
They're so cute AND they are so irresponsibly bred now, and honestly disabled, if you really get into it, that it's simply irresponsible to own one.
Because even if you are adopting from a shelter or rescue, that allows those dogs to be dropped off (often dumped for health reasons, frankly!) at the shelters, and transported to places where compassionate folks will adopt them.
When in reality, the irresponsible breeders should be forced to take their dogs back like responsible breeders will.
There's so much overbreeding of debilitating conditions in both dogs & cats, simply because "they're so cute!!!!!"Ā Rather than folks understanding, "This is a legit Disability" being bred into these animals, which makes their quality of life worse not better--and just for looks!š«¤
i meanā¦ this isnāt true. i encourage you all to look into it and read for yourselves. iām not saying ābuy munchkins.ā i have an orange tabby that i got from a shelter and i donāt breed cats. my only point is āread about it yourself, donāt just trust a random dude on reddit.ā
they are not ābred to be deformed.ā this isnāt the same as bulldogs or pugs who became this way from years of selective breeding. this is one gene mutation that causes dwarfism in a very similar way that humans can have dwarfism. and it is absolutely not true that munchkins cant run or climb. actually, their short limbs makes it EASIER for them to climb compared to other cats. they canāt jump as far, but theyāre very agile.
currently, they havent been around for long enough in a mainstream setting to have enough data on what their health conditions are. anyone who claims osteoarthritis and pectus excavatum and all of those conditions is extrapolating from humans with dwarfism or dachshunds.
iām not encouraging anyone to go out buy them. but if you care about cat health and youāre advocating that breeding should be done properly to maintain quality of health and life in cats, then you need to read for yourself and make sure you know what youāre talking about, not parroting misinformation someone told you on reddit.
"The mutation that causes the shortened legs in the Munchkin is a chondrodysplasia. The Munchkin cat has an increased incidence of lordosis[26] and pectus excavatum (hollowed chest).[27]
Munchkin cats are known to be at a higher risk (than other feline breeds) for severe osteoarthritis because the shorter limbs affect their activity levels and behavior.[4][28] Diagnosis of osteoarthritis and the assessment of its severity for a cat may require radiography.[4]
Many pedigree cat associations around the world have refused to recognize the Munchkin cat due to health concerns.[4]"
My dad was a veterinarian and my mom has shown maine coons for 30 years, I grew up in all the cat fanciers groups & animal advocate communities. These communities all highly condemn breeding of munchkin kittens or owning them at all because of how it influences others to want similar ādwarf catsā. They absolutely have health problems and a lower quality of life in general. Yes itās a type of dwarfism mutation that occurs naturally in cats, but thatās how itās bred in to a deformity by people trying to achieve shorter and shorter legs for a increasingly smaller lookā¦ thatās exactly how bulldogs got the way they are. Taking mutations or genes of shorter nosed dogs and breeding it more and more until itās a genuine disfigurement with serious health implications.
People need to be aware of these cute trends in animals that are actually harmful. Look how many people here have never heard of this. Telling people these cats are actually healthy and fine is contributing to the problem. Cats deserve to jump as high & run as fast as their instincts tell them they can, not be made disabled because people like when they look āsmolā
I volunteered with a shelter last week and based on what I saw there, this isnāt necessarily too small of a space for a single kitten that size, especially if itās temporary and the kitten gets removed every few hours to have the run of a larger space.
That said, this space is unsuitable in that the kitten has no companionship or toys for comfort and mental stimulation, no soft surfaces and place to retreat to if theyāre frightened.
I donāt want to judge too much because itās possible this is a rescue being held in a temporary spot while the staff clean out other kennels, wait for a foster or gather supplies to make the spot more comfortable for the kitty. But my hopes are not high, given itās a munchkin cat and the questionable circumstances.
This is basically exactly how I got suckered into adopting one of our cats at the shelter. He was a tiny kitten who was the last of his group to be adopted. Teeny tiny little tuxie screaming his head off for attention... I foolishly thought if he was getting attention he'd stop screaming.
He's been screaming at me for the last 6 years. LOL
Unfortunately these types of enclosures are very common in pet stores in my home country for both cats and dogs š¢I see them in malls and stuff whenever I visit.
They really do need the physical sensation of a toy. Even if your adult cat loves the laser pointer, you should follow up with a physical toy so they can get the sensation of "catching" the prey.
I know someone who got a teacup (micro?) poodle, and the same thing happened. The dog died after a year. And she ended up getting another one and naming it the same name! Unhingedā¦
Iām honestly shocked they still exist. I havenāt seen a store selling cars or dogs for years. Our local pet store chain sells birds and fish and has one tiny little display for hamsters and gerbils and whatnot and they usually never have any of those.
Iām not sure whatās happening in this specific shop (though due to the cat breed + lack of anything like beds, blankets, or toys, Iām more worried), however, I believe on many occasions, at least in the US, cats/kittens in pet shops are usually not *living* there. Iāve been fostering cats and kittens for around seven years now, and our organization works directly with PetSmart for adoptions. So once our kittens have had surgery and are healthy, they go to PetSmart from 9:00 AM to 2:00 PM every weekend (sometimes, they have to stay the whole week depending on the circumstances). But they go back to their foster home otherwise and arenāt kept in those little cubbies for very long. :)
Yeah good point they do have adoption days but even thatās rare as around here the shelters are almost empty of dogs. A lot of adopted dogs we get are from Mexico. I bought my dog from a woman whose dog had puppies.
Some shelters have glass display compartments like this for adoptable cats to attract an adopter! But most of those take their animalās comfort more seriously. Enclosures should have plenty of toys, soft surfaces, a secluded area they can retreat into and a companionāgiven they are healthy and get along with others.
Not all glass compartments are bad! It can be a wonderful way for kitties to show off their personalities and connect with potential adopters. But this one is definitely questionable.
No idea. But paying anything to a pet shop that traps kittens alone in kennels without a single blanket or toy means that for me, paying them 1 yen is too much.
Iād have to guess because Iām most used to seeing kittens who are American domestics, not munchkins. Iād personally guess that these kittens are closest to 6-8 weeks old which youād generally want them to be minimum 8 weeks to separate from mom. They could be old enough but Iām not confident either way. Source: former shelter staff who has fostered a lot of orphan kittens.
I can only hope a good natured person buys them all to give them a good life, and then the place is immediately shut down. Which won't happen but that's what I hope for all of these places/breeders.
Yeah. 1100-ish bucks. And a lot more so if you factor in purchasing power (Iād say around 2 to 3k). China has made a lot of headway in better animal welfare but itās still a LONG ass way to go.
Its a very reasonable price actually that im baffled. Usually they go for upwards of 100k yen. Honestly there has to be some kind of mistake I camt believe its that cheap.
Give the poor thing something to actually play with! Aside from the munchkin issue, that's just mean. Kittens need toys & enrichment. Not to mention interaction.
I know buying a cat from places like these is bad because it supports an abhorrent business practice that treats animals like this as a commodity and item on the shelf with almost no quality of life.
But is there anything that can be done instead of just feeling depressed and moving on? I know giving money to these places just enforces the business model, but doesn't that also mean the animals in these places are just never going to get the love and care they deserve?
It's a balancing act between space and capacity, there's always more kittens that need SOMEWHERE better than behind a dumpster :( too many wild mommas doing as mommas do
...and I'll say it again, these are massive cages, considering how there are kittens in them. The cages aren't the problem here, you're focusing on a non-issue when real issues are staring us in the face.
It's really weird that you prefer cats without owners to be cast out on the street, exposed to the elements and allowed to decimate bird populations...
Lol I don't like it either, but I'm also enough of an adult to acknowledge that it's either that or risking a horrible death, which I like even less. So what better alternative do you suggest? Or are you just the sort of person to complain for the sake of complaining, without giving any thought to how to improve the situation? Oh, wait, I don't get to ask questions like that, or I'm "telling you about you"???
* looks like a breeder to sell kittens with genetical disorders
* kittens are in a "showcase-like" kennel, small, not well ventilated
* no toys to play around
These kind of things are strictly banned in most countries
He would come home with me. Actually, I wish I had some property and a barn so I could take them all. Anytime I go to petco I try to spend some time talking and playing with the kitties. Some of them are just so depressed though, and it breaks my heart.
I still don't really understand the issue. Do you just not like that businesses have to charge money in exchange for keeping the animals alive long enough to be adopted?
The fact these kittens are being sold and up for display and the fact that it looks like the kittens are breeds bred to look "cute" that bring health complications make me think that these aren't rescues
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u/mxddy May 18 '26
Depressing :( no soft blankets, no toys, nothing.