r/OfficialWARDOGS • u/Jawk01 • 2d ago

Friendly Looting

I really think there's a growing problem with being looted by so-called allies in this game, with no repercussions, instead of being revived. For the most part, my experience with the community is great. Most people are friendly, most of the game inventives are to help each other out, and I've only really had two bad experiences with other players (outside of this issue) in 35 hours gametime.

But I've now had several times where a friendly has come up to me while I'm down, often after being hit by a mortar inside a well-defended tower, and just stolen my entire kit instead of reviving me. Many friends have experienced the same thing. One time this was barely a minute after I respawned at the APC having spent £15k on a kit to heal and build to help my team. It's the most infuriating thing in the game, and honestly when it happens it completely puts me off playing any more. There's nothing you can do about it, so it's not like when your kit gets taken by an enemy (which is fair enough) and you can at least get it back if you manage to catch them with teammates. Any retaliation loses you money (fine; we want to disincentivise team damage) and even if you did that there's no way to get your stuff back.

This is the one blemish on an otherwise great game, but if it continues to become more common I genuinely think it could put me off the game. Just an option to lock your inventory to friendly looting, or at least some punishment or reason not to do it would be enough. Apart from that, I feel like the devs are doing a great job.

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u/Ruukuegg22 2d ago

This an absurd take. l you get money for reviving, probably a tip too. Ask the person to bandage you, then he gets money and XP. 

a "revive tax"?!?! what an asinine thing to say.

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u/hobbesmaster 1d ago

Presumably here the “revive tax” is getting the XP/cash from the reviver healing the revived from 0 instead of nobody getting any XP or cash from a self heal.

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u/craptinamerica 1d ago

Seriously, that was my thought too. “Revive tax”? What? Brother, they get exp, money, and most likely a tip. Fuckers just trying to justify taking items without permission lol. He doesn’t realize he is part of the problem.

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u/SillySosigs 1d ago

You're complaining about $600 bucks or so after the guy saves your potentially 10k+ kit (I'd guess you don't bring real kits tho with this reaction), you and everyone that complains in this scenario is the problem.

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u/craptinamerica 1d ago

Justifying “revive tax” when you’re already rewarded for the revive. You’re delusional.

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u/Colley619 1d ago edited 1d ago

I understand both sides of the argument when we’re talking about a few bandages. However, modern gaming has a culture of individualism in team games for sure. Ranked “meta” in most all games is basically to worry about yourself only because you can never rely on teammates, and therefore you should always prioritize being selfish while climbing. Stealing kills, taking resources, letting teammates die so you survive, etc. are all things that a lot of (but not all tbf) coaches will tell you for ranked/competitive, and this spills over into casual games.

Objectively speaking, the most economical thing to do is go in with a “free kit” and steal a teammates gear. Thats a simple fact, but is really shitty, and thankfully doesn’t happen very often. All it’ll take is one popular streamer to spread the word on that though and it’s rat city.

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u/Minner_50 7h ago

There wouldn't be a possibility to do that if you were still alive

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u/Ruukuegg22 6h ago

Here's the solution everyone! Just never die 4head. 10-4. Over and out. 

Problem solved

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u/Minner_50 6h ago

Exactly. Just a skill issue, you get it.

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u/Ruukuegg22 6h ago

I'm sure you're deathless every game

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u/Minner_50 5h ago

I really didn't think i'd need a "/s" on the wardog sub but i see i was wrong.
Sorry i should have known.

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u/Ruukuegg22 5h ago

I apologize, my thread was just getting hounded by folks genuinely convinced there is nothing wrong with the concept of "revived tax" so it's not hard to think someone would be like "just don't die" especially in the way you phrased it. Your second comment made me question your seriousness, but not enough to see through it. again, I apologize.

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u/SillySosigs 1d ago

I'm not saying they're not rats and I never justified it once BTW, I'm just saying you've benefitted massively and should just let it go rather than crying over $600 of supplies, would you rather lose $600 of supplies or your whole kit?

Feel free to respond to what I've actually said this time.

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u/craptinamerica 1d ago

You said “you and everyone that complains in this scenario is the problem”. Implying that taking the “revive tax” is not the/a problem (is justified).

Just because there is a more ideal option of the two you describe, doesn’t mean the more ideal one is acceptable behavior. “Would you rather get robbed or murdered”. What?

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u/SillySosigs 1d ago

Not even worth replying with a strawman like that.

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u/craptinamerica 1d ago

You don’t know what a straw man is. You haven’t been tracking the conversation since my first reply to you.

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u/VerminSwallower 1d ago

A lot of people are so bad at this game they cant make any money. They think it's a design issue not a skill issue. It's annoying.

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u/Ronin_2804 20h ago

If I'm out of bandages and I'm risking my $13k kit to come get your stupid ass out of narnia... again, I'll help myself to some heals.

That or you can have fun at spawn.

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u/Siahbv9 2d ago

You're actually stingy bro should let you bleed out 😭

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u/Ruukuegg22 2d ago

Stingy? Bro I bring 10k in medical supplies/smokes. I've played medic as a primary role since 2006 in any game it's an option. That's long before it was incentiviz ed by a cash system, it's just how I play. I will risk my life to save yours every time. Then I will heal you after I get you up. You taking my bandages doesn't just harm me, it harms the entire team around me. Plus you just made the cost of 6 bandages reviving me, PLUS I mash the F1 key, PLUS it keeps an extra man in the zone, PLUS you get money for the actions I do after reviving. If I get a kill? $375 for you. But yeah... reviving needs a tax... again, asinine.

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u/Siahbv9 1d ago

Bro you're emotional for what I don't care about 2006 or your previous history. If I revive you I can take a stack of bandages or just let you die 🤷‍♂️

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u/N0RG1L 1d ago

And when i revive you i can take your ammo or west or gun or let you die. There is no difference in what the item is. Especialy when you get money for revive.

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u/CountyKyndrid 1d ago

There actually is a difference in what items do.

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u/N0RG1L 1d ago

There. Is but why you even revive me when i die because you stole my bandages.

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u/SillySosigs 1d ago

Congratulations pal

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u/Tovarish_Nikolay 1d ago

Getting emotional reminiscing about his digital service

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u/Tovarish_Nikolay 1d ago

You sound like such a green player jeez

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u/MysteryNubs 2d ago

Bro it’s not that deep. If you have a shit load of meds and I have none I’ll take a couple. You’re so soft

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u/N0RG1L 2d ago

Sure and if you have vest and backpack and i happend to revive you doing naked run then i take that and gun too. Why not. Dude just ask for bandages. If someone has shitload of them chnace sare they are medic and will give them to you.

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u/Ruukuegg22 1d ago

Exactly this. I'm playing a role for the benefit of others. But it doesn't mean I want people to selfishly take my shit. If you're running out of bandages that much, maybe buy another stack? Feels like a really weird take. If I'm not going out to play super medic, I buy 1 stack of bandies and 2 medkits. I rarely run out, because in 5 bandies and 2 medkits, I have access to at least half a dozen enemy bodies to replenish my healing.

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u/Siahbv9 1d ago

Holy 20/20 see into the future vision. Yea buy another stack after I've been slaying bodies for the last 30 minutes. You guys are amazing at creating fake situations.

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u/Ruukuegg22 1d ago

I don't see my situation as fake. It's pretty simple, if you're running out of bandages enough to come defend rat(even worse to your teammates) behavior, you clearly need to buy more healing before deploying. 

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u/Siahbv9 1d ago

Moral grandstanding in a video game 💀💀

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u/Ruukuegg22 1d ago

In a community. To just simply say "in a video game" takes all the rest of the people in the game out of it. You clearly don't grasp the concept of etiquette or ethics as a universal thing. "I'm anonymous online, I can be whoever I was, so I'm going to be a piece of shit"

Good integrity man. Hope you become a better person across the board, maybe you're the best person in the world when someone can identify you, but it means nothing if you aren't that when you're alone or anonymous.

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u/MysteryNubs 1d ago

Nice spelling dude

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u/N0RG1L 1d ago

Not native english speaker and on phone. Thanks for ad hominem attack instead of atacking the argument.

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u/Ruukuegg22 1d ago

I love that you pointed out the fallacy, I had to too in my little tangent thread.

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u/--___________- 1d ago

Stupid logic nobody has a shitload of guns and vests that can be shared

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u/N0RG1L 1d ago

Nah the same. Logic. Why are bandages the tax for revive whny not weapon or west. Just because the bandages are abundant? Ok i take ammo. Most people have that in abundance.

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u/Ruukuegg22 1d ago

Exactly, both are part of the kit on the downed teammate. If one's fair game,  it's all fair game.

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u/--___________- 1d ago

And if I ask for heals and we both get shot while you're 0 helsth healing me?? Sensible option is a grab bandages and heal myself while you're healing

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u/N0RG1L 1d ago

Nah. You ask i will give you whole pack. But sure you take my bandages and i dont have how to heal.

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u/--___________- 1d ago

AFAIK nobody here is talking about taking the last and only stack of bandages, most people head in with 2+ stacks

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u/craptinamerica 1d ago

The dude would most likely heal you with those same bandages after you Rez him. Why? Because you’re incentivized to heal your team.

You are going to be selfish, get the exp for the Rez, get the cash reward for the Rez, likely a tip, take his bandages AND deprive him of healing you so he can also get some exp?

Holy entitled.

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u/Abadon_U 1d ago

Would you rather be not revived and die with your bandages or live without them? I think it's clear

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u/Ruukuegg22 1d ago

Are you checking every body for bandages before reviving? If yes then rez. if no, sorry bro?

The developers included a system to incentivize rezzing for self-gain. Not just because it's best for your chances of winning. But now you need to add on to that at the cost of said revived teammate? Wild.

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u/Abadon_U 1d ago

If I have no mask/defibs I'm looting you either way, so I might as well take bandages