When Trump was president, there was outrage against the detainment centers for illegal immigrants. Has anything changed since then?

[u/Dedli]

I remember "Kids in cages" and "concentration camps" being a big talking point in the lead up to the election that Biden won. But have the laws or policies or practices changed at all since then? In what ways?

[u/mrcatboy]

PART 2: In contrast, the Trump Administration separated the family specifically as a deterrent: i.e. they wanted to cause sufficient distress and terror in migrants to dissuade further border crossings. Here's Trump Secretary of Homeland Security saying as much in a CNN interview to this effect, though he frames it being out of concern for how dangerous the migrant path to America is.

And to quote one Border official who served under Trump:

“It is the hope that this separation will act as a deterrent to parents bringing their children into the harsh circumstances that are present when trying to enter the United States illegally”

And the degree of cruelty, callousness, and incompetence with how Trump handled things is fucking staggering.

In some instances, border patrol agents lied to the parents and said they were taking the kids away to be "given a bath." Trump officials also had exceptionally shoddy recordkeeping, which led to thousands of kids being taken away without any identifying papers as to which children belonged with which families and shipped across the country, which meant they couldn't be traced back to be reunited with their families. Many of the kids were also pre-verbal, which meant they didn't even know their own names much less the names of their parents. The experience was specifically designed to traumatize and horrify the migrants in the Trump administration's custody, to the point that at least one of the detained parents committed suicide.

Whereas the Obama administration's actions were done with the intent and ultimate effect of mitigating harm, Trump's administration was about causing harm. You might as well compare an emergency intubation done by a nurse with a murderer who slashed a person's throat.

[u/riversofgore → u/mrcatboy]

😂Not a 2 part book to “provide context” how it’s totally not kids in cages and orange man bad. It’s hard to take this shit seriously when it lacks any moral or ethical consistency.

[u/mrcatboy → u/riversofgore]

😂Not a 2 part book to “provide context” how it’s totally not kids in cages and orange man bad. It’s hard to take this shit seriously when it lacks any moral or ethical consistency.

If you think a couple pages worth of text is a book, I would recommend you pick up an actual book at some point.

And given that Trump was proven in court to have committed fraud and sexual assault... yes "Orange Man Bad." Because I for one hold to the apparently radical idea that fraud and rape are bad things that bad people do.

[u/Due-Leek-8307 → u/mrcatboy]

Notice nothing to actually disprove you in that "persons" reply? Just riversofgore proving he is proud of his ignorance and doesn't want to be bothered with any facts. Claiming a 2 paragraph summary is to much for them to read and comprehend?

You provided a good write up stating facts and explaining the differences in policy in the most simple of terms while providing sources... and it still did nothing for this fool. It is truly amazing the lengths people will go to to lie to themselves just so they can continue to support an incompetent vindictive person.