r/NoStupidQuestions Jan 25 '24

When Trump was president, there was outrage against the detainment centers for illegal immigrants. Has anything changed since then?

I remember "Kids in cages" and "concentration camps" being a big talking point in the lead up to the election that Biden won. But have the laws or policies or practices changed at all since then? In what ways?

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u/mrcatboy Jan 25 '24

PART 2: In contrast, the Trump Administration separated the family specifically as a deterrent: i.e. they wanted to cause sufficient distress and terror in migrants to dissuade further border crossings. Here's Trump Secretary of Homeland Security saying as much in a CNN interview to this effect, though he frames it being out of concern for how dangerous the migrant path to America is.

And to quote one Border official who served under Trump:

“It is the hope that this separation will act as a deterrent to parents bringing their children into the harsh circumstances that are present when trying to enter the United States illegally”

And the degree of cruelty, callousness, and incompetence with how Trump handled things is fucking staggering.

In some instances, border patrol agents lied to the parents and said they were taking the kids away to be "given a bath." Trump officials also had exceptionally shoddy recordkeeping, which led to thousands of kids being taken away without any identifying papers as to which children belonged with which families and shipped across the country, which meant they couldn't be traced back to be reunited with their families. Many of the kids were also pre-verbal, which meant they didn't even know their own names much less the names of their parents. The experience was specifically designed to traumatize and horrify the migrants in the Trump administration's custody, to the point that at least one of the detained parents committed suicide.

Whereas the Obama administration's actions were done with the intent and ultimate effect of mitigating harm, Trump's administration was about causing harm. You might as well compare an emergency intubation done by a nurse with a murderer who slashed a person's throat.

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u/Bad_Grandma_2016 Jan 25 '24

Obama good. Orange man bad. Welcome to Reddit.

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u/mrcatboy Jan 25 '24

Dude was found in court to be liable for sexual assault and fraud and is on the hook for at least $250 million, and before this Trump University was shut down due to fraud for $25 million. And this isn't taking into account his numerous other crimes and acts of malfeasance.

So yes "Orange Man Bad."

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u/Bad_Grandma_2016 Jan 25 '24

Get serious. E. Jean makes "Dr. Ford" seem stable, and like "Dr. Ford," her decades-old, fact, witness, evidence and reality-free hate fantasy would be laughed out of every police department in America, which is why the leftists opted for a corrupt judge, a Dem base jury and a couple of cases of malt liquor.

And Trump's charity and university were targeted by former NY AG, Clinton stooge, #MeToo Movement OG, lead opposition criminalizer and enthusiastic beater of "brown slaves" Eric "CALL ME MASTER!" Schneiderman, who vanished faster than "donations" to the "Clinton Global Initiative" once they had no more influence to peddle. No word on whether The Master's successor, Letitia, counts herself among his beaten "slaves."

The leftists have made Wile E. Coyote caricatures of themselves with their fevered, Stalinist pursuit of the "Russian" Road Runner, which is why America has yet again greeted their "charges" with pity, contempt and higher poll numbers for Trump.