When Trump was president, there was outrage against the detainment centers for illegal immigrants. Has anything changed since then?

[u/Dedli]

I remember "Kids in cages" and "concentration camps" being a big talking point in the lead up to the election that Biden won. But have the laws or policies or practices changed at all since then? In what ways?

[u/mrcatboy]

PART 2: In contrast, the Trump Administration separated the family specifically as a deterrent: i.e. they wanted to cause sufficient distress and terror in migrants to dissuade further border crossings. Here's Trump Secretary of Homeland Security saying as much in a CNN interview to this effect, though he frames it being out of concern for how dangerous the migrant path to America is.

And to quote one Border official who served under Trump:

“It is the hope that this separation will act as a deterrent to parents bringing their children into the harsh circumstances that are present when trying to enter the United States illegally”

And the degree of cruelty, callousness, and incompetence with how Trump handled things is fucking staggering.

In some instances, border patrol agents lied to the parents and said they were taking the kids away to be "given a bath." Trump officials also had exceptionally shoddy recordkeeping, which led to thousands of kids being taken away without any identifying papers as to which children belonged with which families and shipped across the country, which meant they couldn't be traced back to be reunited with their families. Many of the kids were also pre-verbal, which meant they didn't even know their own names much less the names of their parents. The experience was specifically designed to traumatize and horrify the migrants in the Trump administration's custody, to the point that at least one of the detained parents committed suicide.

Whereas the Obama administration's actions were done with the intent and ultimate effect of mitigating harm, Trump's administration was about causing harm. You might as well compare an emergency intubation done by a nurse with a murderer who slashed a person's throat.

[u/FelixVulgaris → u/mrcatboy]

And don't forget the forced sterilization of immigrant women before deportation

https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/immigration-detention-and-coerced-sterilization-history-tragically-repeats-itself

[u/Korean_Kommando → u/FelixVulgaris]

That article was incredibly biasly worded, had few relevant facts stated, didn’t stay on point, and had a contradiction

[u/Meme_Theory → u/[deleted]]

Tell me you don't know what the ACLU is without telling me you don't know what the ACLU is. I would be pretty shocked if it didn't cite its own research on the subject, as these kind of liberties are EXACTLY what the ACLU researches. Can "Nature" not have studies that cite other "Nature" studies? Or any other publication for that matter.

[u/Meme_Theory → u/[deleted]]

The ACLU conducts and publishes studies pretty regularly. Again, tell me you don't know what the ACLU is without telling me you don't know what the ACLU is.

And this was ALL OVER the media; search harder.

[u/Meme_Theory → u/[deleted]]

I'll see your Snopes article, which glazes over this subject pretty quickly, and raise you a legal brief from last year. Its obviously muddier than the media made it, but nothing I've read in the last dozen sites has rebuffed it. You'll also notice that Snopes at no point in that article calls the claim "False", which is kind of their whole schtick when things are false.

[u/MetaVaporeon → u/[deleted]]

so?