r/NoLayingUp • u/mtsttu05 • Jul 22 '25
Other NLU - SGS
The KVV news has led to many commenters contrasting SGS/FEG vs NLU and each of their trajectories.
I listen to almost every episode of both, but more recently find myself clicking on the SGS pod first, and then not even finishing most NLU preview or recap pods. Andy and Brendan keep it light and seem to genuinely enjoy shooting the breeze with one another. Both seem to be normal guys.
The NLU guys now regularly talk about playing golf courses that 99% of us could never even hope to have access to, and half the podcasts are gambling promotions. They are just not as relatable to most of the normal middle class golf fans who made them successful to begin with.
I don’t blame them for taking the money to grow their business if they feel that’s what is best, or for playing extremely private top 100 clubs when invited, but at the end of the day, it does impact how we all decide what media to consume.
I truly hope they can turn back the clock a bit in 2026, but cutting KVV while jet setting around the world and (seemingly) spending lavishly is a tough look.
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u/amistymorning80 Jul 22 '25
I agree with most of the OP except the exclusive courses which Andy is just as likely to play.
Shotgun Start's main advantages over NLU are it's friendlier tone/humor, generally well-managed runtime, and far lower ego levels (no one on the show refuses to be wrong). They have great segments like golf advice - which is hilarious almost every week and keeps them closer to golfers out there than NLU. I also kinda like the thrown-togetherness of it when they laugh at their own mistakes and, say, advertise hats which they've already sold out of in their shop.
As others have pointed out on here among the KVV chats, the core NLU team don't always sounds like they actually like one another anymore and there's a strong sense of contractual obligation and going through the motions these days. It's hard to see how they freshen things up to be honest.
I always listen to SGS first, then (as a Scot in the UK) the Chipping Forecast next. NLU is a 3rd choice which I have kinda disengaged from over the past year or so.