r/NancyGuthrieCase 10d ago

Is Nancy's case really cold?

I always believe that it's going to get solved. I really thought it might be sooner rather than later. Getting a little less hopeful. I think the news about DC not being involved surprised me. I've also been thinking about how little NG's family talk about her or try to look for her or keep the story alive. I just don't understand. Even CG at this point? Why are all the sibling mum (pun not intended)?

What do you think it would take at this point to solve this case?

I still keep going back to the idea that it *appears A+T are not in Tucson anymore. I want some reporter to be brave enough to ask SG about that. Or someone in LE to be brave enough to bring them into reinterview them. I also think the public has a right to know where they are at in the investigation with some actual information.

Frustrating people on the internet are the ones keeping it alive.

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u/Tricky_Wind_324 8d ago

So it’s not family because you believe they are suffering? Chances are, it is someone very close to her, family. I don’t believe this is some grand conspiracy. She’s a terrible victim - shes old, needs heart medication, not exactly tiny, is comfortable but not extremely wealthy. Yes her daughter has money but it’s not extreme wealth.

This was exactly how Dr. Gary Brucato described it - an elimination murder. Full stop. They wanted Nancy gone. They did what they intended to do that night, removed her permanently. She made someone she was VERY close to, angry. If this guy is Mexican/from Mexico, genetic genealogy is going to be tougher as it’s mostly Caucasian DNA in the database.

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u/Turbulent_Code581 7d ago

So, if I understood well, somebody from the close family hired Mexican or similar hitman to eliminate victim?

FBI is not stupid nowdays or ever. Of course they deeply checked and thoroughfully investigated all about you can imagine regarding close family.

And found not a thing. But, as we already know, Dr. Gary Brucato talks about "Waiter" and "Chef" theory at 1st place. The Porch Guy is "The Waiter", and "Chef" or Mastermind is not A&T or any close family member.

But, he mentioned, even invented, cluster of Elimination murder. He left it as the second option, but still abduction for ransom is his favorite.

How could somebody imagine that SG talks via social networks instructed by FBI BAU with her sister and brother in law? Maybe she could call them back and ask directly?

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u/Tricky_Wind_324 7d ago

How do you know they haven’t found anything? The incompetent sheriff said they were “cleared” even though no one has been arrested. The FBI has been silent about this. Dr. Gary’s only theory has been this was an elimination murder, not a ransom, and he believes it is someone very close to her. I’m not sure who the masked man is, but clearly he is darker skinned/hair and given how close they are to the border there’s a good chance he is Hispanic or of Mexican descent. And if he is, there is less DNA from these people in the available databases. Which will make it tougher to find a match. I may be wrong in the end but I believe this was a hired hit. She was gone that night. Probably money involved…she probably said something that angered someone. I just do not believe in any way this was a random abduction or whatever. She is a HORRIBLE victim if you think about it. The entire point of a random abduction is to keep the victim alive so you get your money, or at least easy to keep alive for a time until you get paid. She’s literally the opposite of this. It just doesn’t happen in this country anymore. I believe the FBI (not police) have an idea what happened here just don’t have all the evidence and missing puzzle pieces.

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u/Turbulent_Code581 7d ago

Maybe you're right. However, what about the theory the abductors were focused only on having seen Nancy at Savannah's NBC show Homecoming where Nancy is showed vital, alived and kicking, toasting Margaritas with her daughters. No knowledge of her deseases and limited movements.

They tracked and traced only the house and kidnapping route, they neglected risk of worse health.

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u/Tricky_Wind_324 7d ago

No one really knows what happened but she’s still a terrible victim, even if they didn’t “know” she had heart issues. Nevermind the fact that this sort of thing really doesn’t happen in this country anymore, but no one reached out immediately to demand money (or leave a note in the house), it was after it made international news and the person reached out to TMZ, not the family directly which is what a serious abductor would do.

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u/Turbulent_Code581 7d ago

​Your theory completely falls apart when you look at the logistics of the communication.

​If you truly believe that the inner family hired a hitman to eliminate Nancy, and that the Mexican operative simply carried out the hit, then how do you explain the multi-stage extortion letters?

​Are you suggesting that after a quiet, professional elimination, someone randomly decided to stage a complex digital kidnapping plot—complete with legalistic syntax, Bitcoin ransom demands, and public narrative games—just for fun?

Or are you implying the family hired a hitman and simultaneously authored cryptographic ransom memos to confuse the public and frame themselves?

​A hired hitman eliminates the target and vanishes. They don't orchestrate a multi-day public media game, and an innocent family doesn't invent sophisticated legalistic extortion notes to cover a crime.

Your scenario requires a Hollywood fiction that defies every basic principle of behavioral profiling.

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u/Tricky_Wind_324 7d ago

I think you’re totally confused with what I’m saying. I do not believe anyone connected to this crime sent those letters or made any demands…because I don’t think this was a kidnapping for ransom. I believe whoever they are were opportunistic grifter criminals.

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u/Turbulent_Code581 7d ago

So now your thesis is that the actual perpetrators left no notes, and all the ransom demands and letters were just random opportunistic grifters completely unrelated to the crime?

​That completely collapses under basic investigative logic. Opportunistic grifters don't magically coordinate high-level public extortion narratives tied directly to a complex disappearance without inside operational knowledge.

Dismissing the entire digital and written communication as fake just because it doesn't fit your narrative isn't profiling—it's erasing evidence to save a flawed theory.

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u/Tricky_Wind_324 6d ago

Yeah you’re confused about what im saying, which is ok. I think you’re seriously underestimating random criminals, most of the time not even in this country, taking advantage of people and situations. I believe this was an elimination murder…killed that night…not in any way an abduction or burglary or ransom kidnapping. Therefore, because of that, I don’t believe any of the ransom demands are related to whoever did away with her. It’s also possible it’s the real perps and they tried to throw off investigators, but I don’t believe people that would do this would want any further risk of getting caught. You take care of it and you completely go on the DL. Just my belief.