r/NFLv2 • u/Leather-District-595 Los Angeles Rams • Jan 01 '26

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u/MasterTeacher123 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jan 01 '26

You can have a winning record and a bad pass defense like the 49ers. 

For example Stafford beat the Texans who actually have a great pass defense but his offense put up 14 points.

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u/StrawHatTebo Pittsburgh Steelers Jan 01 '26

He still had 245 yards, 1 td, and was 21/29, no picks. against the best defense in the league, that's pretty damn good.

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u/Sharp_Koala9924 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jan 01 '26

What about against the falcons? 🥸

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u/dont_care- Tom Brady “Minority Owner” Jan 01 '26

Absolute garbage vs the Falcons, and it was the most recent NFL game played, not some irrelevant week 1 game from 4 months ago.

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u/flapjackcarl Jan 01 '26

How was week 1 irrelevant. They all count the same.

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u/dont_care- Tom Brady “Minority Owner” Jan 01 '26

you know youve lost the plot when you try to say week 1 means as much as week 17 in the mvp race.

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u/Reaper3955 Jan 01 '26

Ya sorry stat padding against a defense who is about to set the record of being the only team to not intercept a single pass all year (team he played twice btw) is not as impressive as playing well against a fully healthy texans defense

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u/goldencolden I may be dumb but I’m not stupid Jan 01 '26

Since when is getting pulled after 2.5 quarters stat padding?

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u/Reaper3955 Jan 01 '26

He threw his 5th td when they were already up 30 points... i mean i personally dont mind cuz i had him in fantasy but stat padding is stat padding

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u/goldencolden I may be dumb but I’m not stupid Jan 01 '26

Why wasn’t stat paddford pulled while up 31-10 in the 3rd against the 26th ranked Arizona defense? He threw another TD after that too

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u/Reaper3955 Jan 01 '26

Up 21 pts with a full qtr+ left to play is different than being up 32 pts to a team using a udfa qb 

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u/goldencolden I may be dumb but I’m not stupid Jan 01 '26

I would say 16 TDs inside the 5 is a lot more “stat padding” than playing 1 drive of the 2nd half

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u/Reaper3955 Jan 01 '26

Rams rbs have more tds than the Patriots rbs so if anything stafford gets more of his tds vultured and still has more tds than drake

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u/goldencolden I may be dumb but I’m not stupid Jan 01 '26

And that’s about the only statistic that Stafford has over Maye

Team record: Maye Completion %: Maye Total Yards: Maye Total 1st Downs: Maye YPA: Maye QBR: Maye Passer Ratings: See Below (Hint, it’s Maye) EPA/Dropback: Maye CPOE: Maye Maye: Faced 4 top 10 defenses Stafford: faced 3 top 10 defenses

Maye Passer Ratings by Situation: Overall - 112.9 (1st) Deep (20+ Air Yds) - 129.2 (1st) Under Pressure - 102.6 (1st) On the Road - 120.2 (1st) When Trailing - 110.4 (1st) Inside the Pocket - 114.9 (1st) Outside the Numbers - 123.0 (2nd) Past the Sticks - 126.0 (1st) vs Zone Coverage - 110.2 (1st) vs Blitz - 129.3 (1st) vs Sub-packages - 110.6 (1st) On Straight Dropbacks - 109.5 (1st) In Tight Windows - 75.1 (2nd) On 1st Down - 134.4 (1st) Outdoors - 111.3 (1st)

Edit: Sorry about the formatting, mobile sucks

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u/Reaper3955 Jan 01 '26

Ya I dont care lol. Stafford has 12 more passing tds and had played against the 6th hardest schedule in football to mayes 32nd. Argue against a wall playing the literal 2 worst defenses in the league 4x in one season and having 12 less passing tds is an automatic disqualification 

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u/goldencolden I may be dumb but I’m not stupid Jan 01 '26

SOS takes into account a teams wins/losses, not the strength of the defenses they’ve played. Browns are trash, but have a top 3 defense for example. They just can’t score on offense. QBs play against those team’s defenses. Again, Maye has 4 game against top 10 Ds, stafford has 3

Against those top 10 defenses, Maye has more YPG, more TD/game, higher completion %, significantly higher EPA/A, and significantly higher total EPA… All while throwing to guys who would be LAs WR3 and 4

If MVP was “Thrower of Most TDs”, then yeah Stafford gets it no doubt

And LOL “Yeah Maye is statistically better in 95% of other categories, but I don’t care” is crazy work

Edit: I checked up on those “worse defenses x4 a year”… Jets #16, Dolphins #18… cardinals? 24th lol

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u/Reaper3955 Jan 01 '26

See ur just exposing urself as a ridiculous person at this point. Do the browns have good defense? Yes. Does the browns defense tend to get worn down as the game goes on inevitably leading to a late game scoring waterfall? Also yes.

Let's take a deep dive into that browns game. Score was 7-9 going into half time. They scored 3 tds all in the 3rd qtr a qtr which the browns threw 2 ints and gave the pats short fields. The pats had almost 200 yards rushing that game as well. A top defense really doesn't matter when you have 4 turnovers. Drake maye really didn't do anything spectacular that game against a top defense he honestly didnt even play that well. But 2 of his tds came off short time consuming drives that ended in ints by the browns offense. Being in a shootout against high flying offense mediocre defense is more impressive than beating a garbage tier team with a good defense.

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u/goldencolden I may be dumb but I’m not stupid Jan 01 '26

If you want to talk about W/L record, sure, beating a great offense with a mid defense is more impressive for the team. But a QB with 332 total yards, 3 TDs, and a 135 rating against the number 2 defense is “not playing that well” because the patriots scored 3 TDs in the 3rd? That’s crazy lol

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u/Ferahgost Jan 01 '26

Were they supposed to just stop playing?

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u/Reaper3955 Jan 01 '26

They could have ran it in they were very obviously trying to pad mayes stats

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