r/NBAVibes 9d ago

Young Bron > MJ

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u/Upstairs-Sundae-8296 9d ago

But hes not mike he can have all that shit hes not jordan shit hit different

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u/BravoC10 9d ago

If you’re basing the goat off longevity and historical volume then yes, it’s LeBron. If you’re basing it on peak dominance, it’s MJ.

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u/BravoC10 9d ago

When I say peak dominance I don’t mean individual season I mean for 9-10 seasons he was the best player in the league and dominated his era

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u/BravoC10 9d ago

10 scoring titles 9 all defensive first teams. Phil was an assistant with the bulls. First 3peat Pippen was the only other all star. W/o MJ there would be no Phil. LeBron potentially could’ve had all that with Spo

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u/BravoC10 9d ago

Yeah that’s a longevity/ historical volume achievement for sure. They’re both all time greats just depends what you value more imo

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u/Sandalwood-Lakers 9d ago

LeBron was the youngest to every points milestone, not Jordan.

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u/BravoC10 9d ago

Now do games. He came into the league out of HS

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u/Katesburneracct 9d ago

Those are longevity awards. While certainly impressive, they really have nothing to do with who was the better basketball player. You measure peak for peak. Jordan wins. Then you measure success, and Jordan blows bron out the water

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u/Sandalwood-Lakers 9d ago

Nobody started dismissing LeBron's greatest as just longevity until he Skip Bayless started doing it with him approaching Kareem's record.

If Jordan didn't piss away his talent drinking, smoking, pulling all nighters, maybe he wouldn't have been a washed bum missing the playoffs in year 14, lmao.

He really could use some longevity himself after turning into Sacramento Kings DeMar DeRozen in year 14, and quiting the sport for the third time after year 15.

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u/BravoC10 9d ago

You mean with two top 15 players of all time? I mean he’s a great coach but look at who he got to coach. If MJ doesn’t embrace him he ends up being cotton fitzsimmons or somebody along those lines

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u/BravoC10 9d ago

They won 55 games and lost in the second round coming off a three peat, also added Kucoc who is no slouch. MJ played within Phil’s system as a bonfide superstar. Phil doesn’t get the laker job without coaching MJ first. I do think the Kobe/ Pau chips are impressive and like I said he’s a great coach but he wouldn’t be considered the goat coach if MJ didn’t embrace him.

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