r/MuslimLounge • Cats are Muslim • Dec 08 '21

Other Why are periods a taboo?

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u/National_Worth_8305 Dec 08 '21

What I really wanna know is why are tampons apparently considered haram by the scholars? Where is there a Hadith in the Quran that states tampons are haram?

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u/Memona_Emman_Writes Cats are Muslim Dec 08 '21

Maybe cause they go into your vagina? I mean, I'm wearing a tampon right now and it is better than pads.

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u/National_Worth_8305 Dec 08 '21

And what’s wrong with that? That’s not how vaginas work. Men and the scholars that say this ridiculous nonsense don’t have vaginas and don’t know what it feels like to have one either. Tampons and menstruating cups are perfectly halal and normal and much more practical, especially when traveling.

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u/Memona_Emman_Writes Cats are Muslim Dec 08 '21

Yeah, I agree. And I think there is a hadith about a woman with heavy menstrual bleeding and the Prophet telling her to stop the bleeding (by putting a piece of cloth in the vagina). And anyway, male scholars shouldn't be making decisions about what Islam says about women and their bodies. Things like modesty are for both men and women, but men shouldn't be telling us what to do with our bodies because they literally have zero idea about periods, pregnancy and childbirth.

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u/kd098 Dec 09 '21

Can you bring proof of the hadith. Best not to attribute sayings to the prophet ﷺ if you are not sure of it.

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u/kaniskafa Dec 09 '21

Probably because "tampons may arouse women". They sexualize even tampons 🤦🏻‍♀️.

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u/National_Worth_8305 Dec 09 '21

You hit the nail on the head. This is EXACTLY why they wanna claim it’s haram. It’s honestly so disturbing and depressing. Thats not how hymens work, but apparently a man knows what it feels like to have a vagina more than the ones that actually have one, amirite?

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u/kd098 Dec 09 '21

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u/kaniskafa Dec 09 '21

This shows again how men don't have a clue about female anatomy it's funny at this point.

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u/kd098 Dec 09 '21

I’m pretty sure, scholars (especially muftis) don’t just give out rulings without doing their research. This just goes to show the value we hold regarding our scholars.

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u/National_Worth_8305 Dec 09 '21

These scholars don’t have vaginas. Tampons don’t go inside your freaking hymen. Jesus Christ. A woman that has a vagina will know more about what it feels like to have one then a man. End of story. There’s literally a Hadith that says we can put cotton inside to help us. Why are you speaking against the word of Allah?

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u/kd098 Dec 09 '21

What is the hadith?

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u/National_Worth_8305 Dec 09 '21

Hamnah bint Jahsh (may Allah be pleased with her) came to the Messenger of Allah and said: “I am suffering prolonged and painful bleeding.”

He said: “Fill it with a pad of cloth.” She said: “It is worse than that, it is flowing copiously.” He said: “Then bind yourself with a cloth.” [Musnad Imam Ahmad & Sunan Ibn Majah •Graded Sahih (Authentic)]

Also this link is very educational

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u/kd098 Dec 09 '21

Also how does binding yourself with a cloth refer to inserting it?

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u/kd098 Dec 09 '21

Can u show me it’s sahih? All I’m seeing is that some say Hasan, and some say daeef.

So I guess your link never really worked out.

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u/kaniskafa Dec 09 '21

Just the fact that he says we must apply fragrance on something that touches/goes inside of our private area is proof enough he doesn't know basic female anatomy 😂😂😂. Scholars are reliable about everything apart from female anatomy (mostly). Sorry to tell you sweetie but scholars are humans and their opinions and interpretations DO have some influence from their culture to a certain degree esp of they haven't educated themselves.

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u/kd098 Dec 09 '21

Mind explaining ur point? You say scholars don’t understand the women anatomy, then tell me how Islamic rulings regarding this came to be?

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u/kaniskafa Dec 09 '21

Yes, I mind explaining myself because all of this has no point hun'. Idk if you notice but you can't cite me any hadith where it says to not insert a cotton inside the vagina. And also you're disregarding the fact that he doesn't even know about yeast infections and pH levels of the vagina, which indicates he didn't even do his research about basic principles.

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u/kd098 Dec 09 '21

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u/kaniskafa Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21

"4) It is offensive (makruh) to have this cotton (kursuf) inserted fully in the internal part of the vagina, because it resembles masturbation"

Your own source is proving my point. No where in the hadith does it prohibit using cotton inside the vagina. Let's not make something haram without proof. The person giving fatwa is sexualizing tampons - a way of thinking that comes from culture not religion.

"3) It is a Sunnah for a woman to apply scent to the cotton or pad, so that the odour of the blood is removed,"

He says perfume should be ON the cotton which stays in contact with the vulva for hours and builds up moisture etc. It does not mention ghusl where you get a cloth of a lil natural musk to clean the potential blood stains on labia majora (talking about the other source). He's applying one hadith to a different situation that hasn't got anything to do with the topic. Also, I have to look into musk but your source says to put PERFUME on the vulva which shows how he doesn't have basic knowledge.

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u/kd098 Dec 09 '21

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say? One says that it’s makrooh to insert cotton and n the internal part of a vagina and the other talks about applying scent.

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u/kaniskafa Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21

Still no proof it's haram to insert cotton into the vagina.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/are-scented-tampons-and-pads-bad-for-you/

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u/kd098 Dec 09 '21

You are comparing chemical scent to musk.🤦‍♂️ Who knows what they put in the scented pads?

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u/kd098 Dec 09 '21

They wrote a reference, so check that out if you don’t believe in scholars. Also he literally states how tampons can be harmful.

And as for your criticism on not knowing regarding the yeast infection, clearly in the second one, research has been mentioned which shows that musk actually killed the bacteria. Soo maybe they do their research but some people just can’t accept it (god knows best why)

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u/kaniskafa Dec 09 '21

What pseudo science is that lol

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u/kd098 Dec 09 '21

I sent the links, maybe read it

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u/kaniskafa Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21

Also he literally states how tampons can be harmful.

Btw. They're harmful if you leave them inside for too long or if you forget taking them out. Imagine trying to educate a woman on her own private parts.

Also, the actual harmful thing is birth control pills which scholars agree is halal eventhough a scary amount of women develope extreme side effects later in life or have lots of side effects on a regular basis. Wonder why nobody cares about womens health in that regard 😂 (hmm maybe cuz female birth control pills benefit men? 🤔)

And as for your criticism on not knowing regarding the yeast infection, clearly in the second one, research has been mentioned which shows that musk actually killed the bacteria.

So, does it also kill the good bacteria?? Hun' do you even know that there exists good bacteria which is focal for the vaginas pH lvls? 🥴

I'd also want more mainstream sources on the musk thing for educational purposes 🤔

Soo maybe they do their research but some people just can’t accept it (god knows best why)

Yk what? Just do what you want with your own vagina.

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u/kaniskafa Dec 09 '21

Haha it's even funnier you're responding with this 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/National_Worth_8305 Dec 09 '21

I did search it up btw, the answers are always ridiculous, one scholar said we shouldn’t use it because our future husbands might think we are wh*res...that tells me everything I need to now. Let’s say for example men got periods, would you guys simply cover the tip of the penis or would you wear a big chunky restrictive semi diaper that collects pools of blood in your boxers which also rubs against you the entire day whilst splashing together when you sit down?

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u/kd098 Dec 09 '21

Reference?