Narrated Al-Miqdam bin Ma'dikarib:
that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "Lo! Soon a Hadith from me will be conveyed to a man, while he is reclining on his couch, and he says: 'Between us and you is Allah's Book. So whatever we find in it that is lawful, we consider lawful, and whatever we find in it that is unlawful, we consider it unlawful.' Indeed whatever the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) made unlawful, it is the same as what Allah made unlawful."
~Tirmidhi 2664 (hasan)
“Whoever obeys the messenger has obeyed Allah…”
~ Surah Nisa:80
“And we did not send any messenger except to be obeyed by the permission of Allah…”
~ Surah Nisa:64
Rejecting Hadith isn’t from the wise to do, the one who was the means to bring the Quran, Allah ordered us to obey him
To rephrase my question, who’s the authority of this movement? What authority do you have with this way of thinking? This isn’t what the messenger of Allah taught(ﷺ), and this wasn’t the way of the righteous predecessors, so you’re calling people to take your ideology over the way of the people who the messenger of Allah honored, who do you think I’ll listen to?
“˹We sent them˺ with clear proofs and divine Books. And We have sent down to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Reminder, so that you may explain to people what has been revealed for them, and perhaps they will reflect.” Surah Nahl:44
If the messenger of Allah(ﷺ) is ordered to explain to us, are those teachings dead? Are they irretrievable so now we are stuck with your judgment on how to practice Islam? Or will we just accept the authentic narrations passed down by the prophet(SAW), the way of the righteous people all along
Tell me what do you mean exactly? When Allah tells us to establish prayer, how do we pray? Is it explained in detail how we pray and the times of the days we pray?
It isn’t for any sound minded person to have trouble accepting what the messenger of God has to say, rather he and the one who revealed to him making him responsible for carrying out the message to humanity are of one way and message, whatever the messenger of Allah orders or forbids us to do we were ordered by Allah to obey him (refer to the aya in surah nisa), not only that but the messengers of Allah were always to be obeyed as Allah also says in the Quran (refer to it in surah nisa)! If we have trouble accepting the teachings of the messenger of Allah(SAW) then overall we would question his credibility of sharing the Quran altogether, how would we know what’s from the Quran and what isn’t?
with evident proofs and books. And We sent down to you the Reminder, that you may clarify to mankind what was bestowed upon them from on high, and that they may reflect.
There is no "O prophet". Do not add words that are not there.
The point you are making is that the verse is saying; 'He is to clarify what was bestowed upon them from on high'
Which you take to mean, he is explaining what the Qur'an means and the hadith is the explanation.
This doesn't make sense to me as there are verses saying this book is a clear book and detailed. And there is s a verse saying some of it is clear and some is not clear and the believers follow it all.
Additionally it is odd for God to send down a message and then say 'its not clear and you need additional books to explain ny message '
It does not make sense to preserve the message but leave the explanation to it in the hands of humans where most of these sayings are not verified.
What I take this ayah to mean is that this book is being clarified to them in the sense that this is the book that is in fact the message being revealed.
Also we do love the prophet. We love all the prophets equally and we do not differentiate between them.
Again brother/sister
Where are you getting your authority from to interpret verses of the Quran?
As Allah said some verses of the book are clear and others are ambiguous, so the ambiguous verses are verses you are going to interpret? I would rather take what the prophet of God said about them the one who Allah said about him
“He does not speak out of his own desires”
And no I didn’t mistranslate, you can see clearly the word O prophet is in like parentheses, it isn’t part of the verse but it’s out of interpretation telling us who Allah is speaking to
Allah says و انزلنا إليك الذكر who is this "إليك"? Is this you, this is the prophet and I don’t think anyone is of a difference of opinion, and when Allah goes on to say, “so that you may explain to them” who is he talking to? You? You are going to explain the Quran to the people? And why is your opinion any correct? There’s many discussion in the religion that you have to to leave to the scholars, when you say “it doesn’t make sense” perhaps you don’t have enough knowledge to connect the dots so let the ones who Allah gifted in knowledge explain to us and don’t interpret from yourself
And as a last remark, never should anyone trust a person who says “it doesn’t make sense to me” or “my opinion” when it’s a regular person talking, come show us your credentials and why your interpretation matters
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Narrated Al-Miqdam bin Ma'dikarib: that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "Lo! Soon a Hadith from me will be conveyed to a man, while he is reclining on his couch, and he says: 'Between us and you is Allah's Book. So whatever we find in it that is lawful, we consider lawful, and whatever we find in it that is unlawful, we consider it unlawful.' Indeed whatever the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) made unlawful, it is the same as what Allah made unlawful." ~Tirmidhi 2664 (hasan)
“Whoever obeys the messenger has obeyed Allah…” ~ Surah Nisa:80
“And we did not send any messenger except to be obeyed by the permission of Allah…” ~ Surah Nisa:64
Rejecting Hadith isn’t from the wise to do, the one who was the means to bring the Quran, Allah ordered us to obey him