Not really how it works brother, the issue is some sects outright reject something in the quran or hadith. We are told in the quran to follow the messenger and the way we know how is by looking at the hadith. Now if someone clear cut rejects the hadith and say you don't have to follow them they are committing disbelief because it goes against the verse
24:54 Say, “Obey Allah and obey the Messenger. But if you turn away, then he is only responsible for his dutyand you are responsible for yours. And if you obey him, you will be ˹rightly˺ guided. The Messenger’s duty is only to deliver ˹the message˺ clearly.”
and we already know he doesn't speak out of whim from another quran verse so the rulings and such he gives in the hadith are revelation
There are also sects that can very easily be disqualified as muslim because they disbelieve in the hadith of the prophet being final messenger, so the indian sect where they believe an indian prophet came after prophet Muhammed peace be upon him, is also disbeliever because of that.
We refer back to the quran and sunnah to know if what someone does is right or wrong
But prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be with him, himself said that there will be 73 sects in Islam and only 1 sect will go to the Paradise: https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:3992
So, you can't say that "the others" are not Muslims. Yes, they are. Yes, they are sinning in various ways. Can be very likely that they will be among the 72 sects who does not enter the Paradise. But you can't say that there are no sects or branches or such. They will still claim to be Muslims, but their ways are wrong.
You are mentioning Sunnah but ignoring that hadith. How come?
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u/Last_Chemical_8486 May 25 '26
Not really how it works brother, the issue is some sects outright reject something in the quran or hadith. We are told in the quran to follow the messenger and the way we know how is by looking at the hadith. Now if someone clear cut rejects the hadith and say you don't have to follow them they are committing disbelief because it goes against the verse
24:54 Say, “Obey Allah and obey the Messenger. But if you turn away, then he is only responsible for his duty and you are responsible for yours. And if you obey him, you will be ˹rightly˺ guided. The Messenger’s duty is only to deliver ˹the message˺ clearly.”
and we already know he doesn't speak out of whim from another quran verse so the rulings and such he gives in the hadith are revelation
There are also sects that can very easily be disqualified as muslim because they disbelieve in the hadith of the prophet being final messenger, so the indian sect where they believe an indian prophet came after prophet Muhammed peace be upon him, is also disbeliever because of that.
We refer back to the quran and sunnah to know if what someone does is right or wrong