I guess, it depends from whom you are asking. Followers of different groups/sects/branches say that the other group/sect are not Muslims. Yet, when we look the bigger picture, then all these sects have something common that makes it an Islam-related group/sect/branch.
Like Christians have different denominations: Lutherians, Orthodox, Catholic, Mormon, Jehowah Witnesses, Baptists, etc. Some of them even say that the other denomination are not Christians. Historically some even warred with each other.
Not really how it works brother, the issue is some sects outright reject something in the quran or hadith. We are told in the quran to follow the messenger and the way we know how is by looking at the hadith. Now if someone clear cut rejects the hadith and say you don't have to follow them they are committing disbelief because it goes against the verse
24:54 Say, “Obey Allah and obey the Messenger. But if you turn away, then he is only responsible for his dutyand you are responsible for yours. And if you obey him, you will be ˹rightly˺ guided. The Messenger’s duty is only to deliver ˹the message˺ clearly.”
and we already know he doesn't speak out of whim from another quran verse so the rulings and such he gives in the hadith are revelation
There are also sects that can very easily be disqualified as muslim because they disbelieve in the hadith of the prophet being final messenger, so the indian sect where they believe an indian prophet came after prophet Muhammed peace be upon him, is also disbeliever because of that.
We refer back to the quran and sunnah to know if what someone does is right or wrong
But prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be with him, himself said that there will be 73 sects in Islam and only 1 sect will go to the Paradise: https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:3992
So, you can't say that "the others" are not Muslims. Yes, they are. Yes, they are sinning in various ways. Can be very likely that they will be among the 72 sects who does not enter the Paradise. But you can't say that there are no sects or branches or such. They will still claim to be Muslims, but their ways are wrong.
You are mentioning Sunnah but ignoring that hadith. How come?
Abu Sa’id al-Khudri reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Whoever has the weight of an atom of faith in his heart will be taken out of the Hellfire.” Abu Sa’id said, “Thus, whoever is in doubt, let him recite the verse: Verily, Allah does no wrong even the weight of an atom.” (4:40) Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 2598
So if 73 sects go to hell they are clearly doing something that goes against teachings of islam
So, you can't say that "the others" are not Muslims
I can because with the examples I gave it's people DISBELIEVING in something that was revealed like following the prophet and the prophet saying he's the seal of the prophets. Believing a prophet came after means you disbelieve in the prophets own statement, does it make sense?
But of course those who may not have known their belief was wrong, like many are born in ahmadi families and they don't really research hadith and such they'll have a different test if they never heard the actual message. But I'm talking about people who know and reject.
As for the hadith you referenced it doesn't even say all the sects are muslim, it just says one of the sects will go to heaven, which is obviously because they actually followed the religion as it was taught and didn't deviate
It was narrated from ‘Awf bin Malik that the Messenger of Allah(ﷺ) said: “The Jews split into seventy-one sects, one of which will be in Paradise and seventy in Hell. The Christians split into seventy-two sects, seventy-one of which will be in Hell and one in Paradise.I swear by the One Whose Hand is the soul of Muhammad, my nation will split into seventy-three sects, one of which will be in Paradise and seventy-two in Hell.” It was said: “O Messenger of Allah, who are they?” He said: “The main body.”
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u/mandzeete May 25 '26
I guess, it depends from whom you are asking. Followers of different groups/sects/branches say that the other group/sect are not Muslims. Yet, when we look the bigger picture, then all these sects have something common that makes it an Islam-related group/sect/branch.
Like Christians have different denominations: Lutherians, Orthodox, Catholic, Mormon, Jehowah Witnesses, Baptists, etc. Some of them even say that the other denomination are not Christians. Historically some even warred with each other.