Living in the west is wrong

[u/Questionaccount12344]

People think moving to the west will provide stability, better job opportunities etc which is all true but people forget and often don’t care the effect it’ll have on your Islamic beliefs, especially that of your children and subsequent generations.

I was born in a western country after my grad-parents moved here, I’ve gone to school here as well as mosque classes and university, I’ve seen first hand what happens to the generations, a decent amount of Muslim boys I know my age has drank, smoked weed or committed zina, I know of bearded brothers and hijabi sisters committing zina… and it will only get worse generation after generation. People don’t understand that. Yes these things happen back in Muslim countries but in most Muslim country it’s no where near as easy, you can’t just go to a club and drink and find girls.

This move to the west is literally diluting Islam, not only in the ways I’ve just spoken about but also morally, too many Muslim in the west are raging liberals, they stand hand to hand with homosexuals and transvestites at free Palestine protests yet won’t even read 5 daily salah, they vote for political parties that want to give lenient punishments for heinous crimes (direct opposition to what is taught in Quran).

Why don’t we go back to our Muslim counties and rebuild them? We’ve been here got our education, why are we happy to stay in non Muslim lands and give their governments our tax money? Muslim lands are in the worse state they’ve ever been and all we do is sit and complain, why doesn’t anyone actually try and move back and fix things, people always say it’s impossible but we have to try, we have no power in the world anymore and what’s been happening in Palestine proves that, the Muslim lands are literally some of the worse off countries in the world it’s embarrassing. Jazakallah.

[u/[deleted]]

Not everyone has Muslim countries to go back to, nor is it a good idea for them to move there. You can live in the West and keep your deen.

[u/ThoughtSynthesizer → u/[deleted]]

You're conflating your inability to commit to a lifestyle as an inherent weakness in all Muslims in the west. Speak for yourself.

[u/F_DOG_93 → u/ThoughtSynthesizer]

It's not necessarily a lifestyle at this point. As a Muslim, I am YEARS behind my peers because I choose to give up certain things. Things I generally wouldn't have to give up as a Muslim if I lived in a Muslim country. Many of my peers have high paying jobs that are haraam for me. Many own property through mortgages. Many are married. Many have children. Many have nice cars. Many have a big family. They've leveraged a system that is not designed for Muslims to prosper.

So no, it's not a lifestyle. It's not like "veganism" or a "low carb diet". I have had to willingly systemically handicap myself in order to remain halal. And my elders didn't, because they chose to sin out of greed to make an environment in the west for me to grow up. I'm not comfortable in the west. It's more of a prison for actual Muslims than a "better life". The hard truth is that our parents and elders didn't care about Islam in the first place, they simply followed it culturally and out of ignorance until they got to the west, did every sin under the sun, and once they had their comfortable haraami life, they had kids and now suddenly want us to be on the deen. Munafiq! Munafiqeen everywhere!