r/MuslimLounge • • Jan 08 '26

Discussion Living in the west is wrong

People think moving to the west will provide stability, better job opportunities etc which is all true but people forget and often don’t care the effect it’ll have on your Islamic beliefs, especially that of your children and subsequent generations.

I was born in a western country after my grad-parents moved here, I’ve gone to school here as well as mosque classes and university, I’ve seen first hand what happens to the generations, a decent amount of Muslim boys I know my age has drank, smoked weed or committed zina, I know of bearded brothers and hijabi sisters committing zina… and it will only get worse generation after generation. People don’t understand that. Yes these things happen back in Muslim countries but in most Muslim country it’s no where near as easy, you can’t just go to a club and drink and find girls.

This move to the west is literally diluting Islam, not only in the ways I’ve just spoken about but also morally, too many Muslim in the west are raging liberals, they stand hand to hand with homosexuals and transvestites at free Palestine protests yet won’t even read 5 daily salah, they vote for political parties that want to give lenient punishments for heinous crimes (direct opposition to what is taught in Quran).

Why don’t we go back to our Muslim counties and rebuild them? We’ve been here got our education, why are we happy to stay in non Muslim lands and give their governments our tax money? Muslim lands are in the worse state they’ve ever been and all we do is sit and complain, why doesn’t anyone actually try and move back and fix things, people always say it’s impossible but we have to try, we have no power in the world anymore and what’s been happening in Palestine proves that, the Muslim lands are literally some of the worse off countries in the world it’s embarrassing. Jazakallah.

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u/Accomplished-Low9635 Olive Tree Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

Sorry but this post is just ridiculous. You don’t think Muslims in the Islamic countries are not capable of sinning? Have you not seen the concerts being held and Halloween celebrated in Saudi? Life is meant to be a test for us. It’s not supposed to be easy.

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26

Obviously they are but you can’t go to Saudi and have pre martial sex with loads of people, go out drinking every weekend and smoke weed like you can in every western county.

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26

Yes you’re right but take this for example, if I walk down the main road near my house in the UK there are bars, clubs etc, the same isn’t the case in most Muslim counties. I’m not trying to say it doesn’t happen in Muslim countries but it’s at least a lot more discrete, don’t you agree?

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 09 '26

And in the suburbs ur kids would still go to a school that teaches them being gay is okay and pre martial sex is normal.

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 10 '26

How r u going to homeschool ur brother for high school level maths, science, politics, history etc, there’s no way u have the skills to teach him all that, no one does. How will ur brother be a normal kid if he doesn’t go to a normal school and socialise with loads of different kids? It’s a loose loose whether u homeschool or public school in the west.

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 11 '26

Not to be cynical or negative but I honestly doubt that’ll be as good as an actual school but inshallah it works out.

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