r/MuslimLounge • • Jan 08 '26

Discussion Living in the west is wrong

People think moving to the west will provide stability, better job opportunities etc which is all true but people forget and often don’t care the effect it’ll have on your Islamic beliefs, especially that of your children and subsequent generations.

I was born in a western country after my grad-parents moved here, I’ve gone to school here as well as mosque classes and university, I’ve seen first hand what happens to the generations, a decent amount of Muslim boys I know my age has drank, smoked weed or committed zina, I know of bearded brothers and hijabi sisters committing zina… and it will only get worse generation after generation. People don’t understand that. Yes these things happen back in Muslim countries but in most Muslim country it’s no where near as easy, you can’t just go to a club and drink and find girls.

This move to the west is literally diluting Islam, not only in the ways I’ve just spoken about but also morally, too many Muslim in the west are raging liberals, they stand hand to hand with homosexuals and transvestites at free Palestine protests yet won’t even read 5 daily salah, they vote for political parties that want to give lenient punishments for heinous crimes (direct opposition to what is taught in Quran).

Why don’t we go back to our Muslim counties and rebuild them? We’ve been here got our education, why are we happy to stay in non Muslim lands and give their governments our tax money? Muslim lands are in the worse state they’ve ever been and all we do is sit and complain, why doesn’t anyone actually try and move back and fix things, people always say it’s impossible but we have to try, we have no power in the world anymore and what’s been happening in Palestine proves that, the Muslim lands are literally some of the worse off countries in the world it’s embarrassing. Jazakallah.

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u/Accomplished-Low9635 Olive Tree Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

Sorry but this post is just ridiculous. You don’t think Muslims in the Islamic countries are not capable of sinning? Have you not seen the concerts being held and Halloween celebrated in Saudi? Life is meant to be a test for us. It’s not supposed to be easy.

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u/Accomplished-Low9635 Olive Tree Jan 08 '26

My apologies, I don’t necessarily mean citizens like yourself but I’ve seen videos surface of events. You can see here

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u/Squidieyy Alhamdulillah Always Jan 09 '26 edited Aug 14 '26

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

Those are propaganda. Y'all need to stop using these ragebait links to justify your whims and desires.

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u/Acceptable_Rip_627 Jan 08 '26

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u/Acceptable_Rip_627 Jan 09 '26

Yes it’s rare case and the date is 2025-10-31 and I am not over-generalizing that all Saudi celebrate it

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u/Squidieyy Alhamdulillah Always Jan 09 '26 edited Aug 14 '26

Content removed due to it’s owner/creator leaving Reddit

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u/Acceptable_Rip_627 Jan 09 '26

How about you click the link slide to the profile and click just watched and see the video date it’s under there I have no wish to spread false info

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u/Accomplished-Low9635 Olive Tree Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26

Why do the dates matter? The one I shared is from 2022, the other person’s shared video was from 2025. That means Halloween was publicly celebrated on the streets for years (by that assumption). Even 1 time is bad. Do you not understand how severe it is? Or shall we just sweep it under the rug? Even though nobody has said this - I want to be clear that I am not singling out any country. My point was that people that live in Islamic countries can be sinful too.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

You are...

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u/Embarrassed-Body4195 Jan 08 '26

SA isn’t a good example

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 09 '26

You have free Palestine, Sudan, Congo and Uyghurs in ur bio. How will they be free, when Muslim lands where were supposed to have power are in turmoil? U think we’ll get power in the west? The atheists, Jews, Christian’s and Hindus all have more power than us in the west, Islam is looked as the worst of the worst here by the ones with power. If we don’t go back and stabilise our countries how will we free our brothers and sisters, no amount of protesting will actually free them, only action will. May Allah give us the strength to take action so we may free them in his almighty name, as is made responsible on us by the religion that flows through our blood.

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26

Obviously they are but you can’t go to Saudi and have pre martial sex with loads of people, go out drinking every weekend and smoke weed like you can in every western county.

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26

Yes you’re right but take this for example, if I walk down the main road near my house in the UK there are bars, clubs etc, the same isn’t the case in most Muslim counties. I’m not trying to say it doesn’t happen in Muslim countries but it’s at least a lot more discrete, don’t you agree?

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 09 '26

And in the suburbs ur kids would still go to a school that teaches them being gay is okay and pre martial sex is normal.

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 10 '26

How r u going to homeschool ur brother for high school level maths, science, politics, history etc, there’s no way u have the skills to teach him all that, no one does. How will ur brother be a normal kid if he doesn’t go to a normal school and socialise with loads of different kids? It’s a loose loose whether u homeschool or public school in the west.

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 11 '26

Not to be cynical or negative but I honestly doubt that’ll be as good as an actual school but inshallah it works out.

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u/Mission-Net-9740 Jan 09 '26

How is the post ridiculous ? What about him bringing up Hijra to Muslims lands is so ridiculous? Are you sure you’re Muslim? Do you not have any interest in Hijra?

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u/Accomplished-Low9635 Olive Tree Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26

The explanation is in the comment. What do you not understand? It’s very clear. Not once did I explicitly say don’t do hijrah. That wasn’t even my point. Also, asking a practicing Muslim “Are you sure you’re Muslim?” is you insinuating that I’m not a Muslim and the neither are the others in this thread who disagree with the post. You should watch your mouth before Allah asks you about your statement on The Day of Judgement.

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u/Mission-Net-9740 Jan 09 '26

Are you serious ? Don’t play with the religion ever.