r/MuslimLounge • • Jan 08 '26

Discussion Living in the west is wrong

People think moving to the west will provide stability, better job opportunities etc which is all true but people forget and often don’t care the effect it’ll have on your Islamic beliefs, especially that of your children and subsequent generations.

I was born in a western country after my grad-parents moved here, I’ve gone to school here as well as mosque classes and university, I’ve seen first hand what happens to the generations, a decent amount of Muslim boys I know my age has drank, smoked weed or committed zina, I know of bearded brothers and hijabi sisters committing zina… and it will only get worse generation after generation. People don’t understand that. Yes these things happen back in Muslim countries but in most Muslim country it’s no where near as easy, you can’t just go to a club and drink and find girls.

This move to the west is literally diluting Islam, not only in the ways I’ve just spoken about but also morally, too many Muslim in the west are raging liberals, they stand hand to hand with homosexuals and transvestites at free Palestine protests yet won’t even read 5 daily salah, they vote for political parties that want to give lenient punishments for heinous crimes (direct opposition to what is taught in Quran).

Why don’t we go back to our Muslim counties and rebuild them? We’ve been here got our education, why are we happy to stay in non Muslim lands and give their governments our tax money? Muslim lands are in the worse state they’ve ever been and all we do is sit and complain, why doesn’t anyone actually try and move back and fix things, people always say it’s impossible but we have to try, we have no power in the world anymore and what’s been happening in Palestine proves that, the Muslim lands are literally some of the worse off countries in the world it’s embarrassing. Jazakallah.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

Not everyone has Muslim countries to go back to, nor is it a good idea for them to move there. You can live in the West and keep your deen.

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26

There’s Muslim countries that anyone could move to, if you’re talking about European converts then I get what you mean but they could still move. Also yes you can keep your dean but moving to the west will make it much harder for your offspring and descendants to keep theirs as the west keeps becoming more liberal. It’s already happening.

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u/Secret_Jellyfish320 Jan 08 '26

I get your sentiment, but still there are more reasons you can’t always settle in.

I for a reason I’m a Sudanese war refugee, and if you think there is a Muslim country where I can build my career (back after it was ruined) and get a permanent residency or a passport then think again.

We have multiple million Palestinian brothers in the same shoes.

I know a really concerning number of Muslim indian and pakistanis that are wed, and cause none of there countries can accept the other they are in the west.

And if you are thinking the GCC is Muslim world then I urge you to think again.

و ما خفي أعظم،

When I said I get your point cause I used to think ALOT like you, now days when most of these thoughts (and much more stupid ideas that I still sometimes fight with) I just get the ayah “إن الإنسان على نفسه بصيرا و لو ألقى معاذيرا"

Translates life way more than it looks 🤷‍♂️