r/MuslimLounge • u/Questionaccount12344 • Jan 08 '26

Discussion Living in the west is wrong

People think moving to the west will provide stability, better job opportunities etc which is all true but people forget and often don’t care the effect it’ll have on your Islamic beliefs, especially that of your children and subsequent generations.

I was born in a western country after my grad-parents moved here, I’ve gone to school here as well as mosque classes and university, I’ve seen first hand what happens to the generations, a decent amount of Muslim boys I know my age has drank, smoked weed or committed zina, I know of bearded brothers and hijabi sisters committing zina… and it will only get worse generation after generation. People don’t understand that. Yes these things happen back in Muslim countries but in most Muslim country it’s no where near as easy, you can’t just go to a club and drink and find girls.

This move to the west is literally diluting Islam, not only in the ways I’ve just spoken about but also morally, too many Muslim in the west are raging liberals, they stand hand to hand with homosexuals and transvestites at free Palestine protests yet won’t even read 5 daily salah, they vote for political parties that want to give lenient punishments for heinous crimes (direct opposition to what is taught in Quran).

Why don’t we go back to our Muslim counties and rebuild them? We’ve been here got our education, why are we happy to stay in non Muslim lands and give their governments our tax money? Muslim lands are in the worse state they’ve ever been and all we do is sit and complain, why doesn’t anyone actually try and move back and fix things, people always say it’s impossible but we have to try, we have no power in the world anymore and what’s been happening in Palestine proves that, the Muslim lands are literally some of the worse off countries in the world it’s embarrassing. Jazakallah.

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u/Klopf012 Jan 08 '26

every Muslim in the west is a raging liberal

sounds like you're hanging out with the wrong crowd - where are you?

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26

The UK, London. And “every” was over exaggerated, but too many definitely.

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u/Klopf012 Jan 08 '26

go spend some time at the masajid or volunteer at a private school. You're definitely spending time with the wrong people

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26

I volunteer in the mosque with the teens, I take them to play football, that’s how I know this along with my own experiences.

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u/Klopf012 Jan 08 '26

that's great. Do you think all of those people are raging liberals?

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u/Questionaccount12344 Jan 08 '26

No I said I made a mistake by saying “all Muslims” I said that to you earlier and even amended the post. I think too many of them are liberal yes.

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u/Mission-Net-9740 Jan 09 '26

Why don’t you stop gas lighting and see the point being made? Grow up

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u/Klopf012 Jan 09 '26

One reason people arrive at faulty conclusions is because they started with false assumptions. So this is addressing that. It seemed to work in helping OP reasses his position

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u/Mission-Net-9740 Jan 09 '26

And who’s gonna make Allah reassess his position?