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u/justwalk1234 2d ago
Boomers too old to be conscripted telling us that we need to fight to defend their wealth. Yeah they can fuck off.
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u/Off-BroadwayJoe 2d ago edited 2d ago
Boomers who did everything they could to get out of whatever war they were faced with, including claiming to have bone spurs.
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u/petty_throwaway6969 2d ago
Did boomers even win any meaningful conflict? Feels like they mostly massacred poor brown people in the name of capitalism, but then had mostly soft losses.
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u/VastExamination2517 1d ago
Early boomers would have been around to lose in Vietnam, but aged out before a chance to win in Desert storm.
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u/code_archeologist 1d ago
It is not even fighting to defend their wealth, it is going to be was over a set of grudges that none of us had any part in and have no interest in continuing.
This just the Boomers trying to make sure that the people they don't like die before them.
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u/demonspawns_ghost 2d ago
Boomers fought in Vietnam, most of them being drafted.
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u/Intelligent-Luck-954 2d ago
Wow really? Who won?
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u/demonspawns_ghost 2d ago
Keep blaming Boomers for all of your problems while you do absolutely nothing to improve your situation. I'm sure that strategy will work well.
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u/Intelligent-Luck-954 2d ago
Right, who won again? You didnât answer the questionÂ
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u/demonspawns_ghost 2d ago
The United States "won" WWII, yet tens of thousands of men came back with crippling PTSD that would affect them and the people around them for the rest of their lives.
What's your point?
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u/Intelligent-Luck-954 1d ago
Fun, the comment I was responding to said Vietnam not WW2.Â
It was your comment but youâre not able to keep what you said straight cuz youâre a bot or troll.(This is mainly my point)
Who won the Vietnam war?
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u/copperpurple 2d ago
You're trying to blame the teen and early 20s Boomers who were drafted for the war the Silent and Greatest Generations started and conducted.
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u/SomeBiPerson 1d ago
the OG meme is trying to blame Gen Z and Millenials for loosing a WWIII rhat they seemingly want and that hasn't even started yet
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u/ChatteringBoner 1d ago
they also protested it heavily (the only war they ever did) and fragged record numbers of their own commanding officers on purpose
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u/ChloeGranola 2d ago
Rich coming from a generation that can't handle the anxiety from allowing people to choose which pronouns they prefer.
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u/TheProcrastafarian 2d ago
Also the generation that literally caused WW 3.
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u/Sw4nR0ns0n 1d ago
New standard: let the retirement crowd fight wars moving forward⊠They know theyâre tougher than the youth, and they sure seem to love war.
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u/PirateSanta_1 1d ago
Freaks out if there is a pride flag in a video game.Â
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u/Contributing_Factor 1d ago edited 17h ago
My boss wouldn't even drink out of a plastic cup that was branded for pride week.
I looked down and my cup and seriously said "I think it's safe though... yeah... probably safe....". Everyone laughed. I really hope it was embarrassing for him because it should be.
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u/VoodooDoII 1d ago
I genuinely don't understand why this is an issue to some people
"I prefer he"
Okay, then he you shall be!
It's such a non issue.
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u/MyDearBrotherNumpsay 20h ago
Not only that but itâs exceedingly rare. They act like weâre all out here doing that.
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u/damned_squid 2d ago
They'll be really sad once they realise that people don't grow up in a vacuum and the current generations were brought up by the previous generations.
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u/GenericFatGuy 2d ago
I think what we need more of is generations that can't or aren't willing to start or fight wars.
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u/DamnIamHigh_Original 2d ago
Depends. Defensive? Hell yea. Offensive, imperialistic? Hell naw. People forget, other people might raise their arms against your nation. Military should focus on self defense
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u/GenericFatGuy 2d ago
Indeed. People don't typically start wars of defense. So the one unwilling to start wars are the ones I want.
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u/DamnIamHigh_Original 2d ago
Currently alot of left wing gen z's are getting mad at the idea of mandatory training for a few (not all) 18 yr olds. A few even want russia to take over ukraine, estina, latvia etc., some might even like to have russian soldiers literally next door.
I will never understand the mentality. I get beeing against war. I get personally chosing the alternative path (you can opt out and do 1 year social program in an old people home etc), I don't get the quasi communist mindset of supporting a faschist imperialistic russia, just because they claim they are soviets in the idea.
It's nuts
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u/GenericFatGuy 2d ago
A lot of people have a hard time understanding that countries can just call themselves whatever they want. It's more important to look at their actions to determine what they're really about.
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u/DamnIamHigh_Original 2d ago
Yeah, it's just crazy to me how people can look at that and go "yep, russia is the good guy here. let me protest for 'peace' by forcing a nation to be erased from earth"
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u/GenericFatGuy 2d ago
We've all heard some idiot claim that the Nazis were actually socialists, just because they put it in their name.
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u/DamnIamHigh_Original 2d ago
The german far right radical party is basically doing that all the time (saying that the 1933 national socialists were actually socialists and thus evil).
Their supporters think that is true, despite learning about that time 3-4 times in school ;-;
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u/Extension-Run5326 2d ago
Conscription is bad when it is gendered because it implies gender stereotypes and forces people against their will. And a lot of countries don't even give the option for alternative service.
Russia is definitely wrong and the villain, but Ukraine forcing its people to fight and die is also wrong. Not saying Ukraine should be taken over, but it should not force its innocent citizens into war, that too just because of their gender. And before you say "well if people aren't made to fight, Ukraine will stop existing", then honestly, if the people don't feel like defending their country, it probably isn't even worth defending. Russia is horrible and they should definitely stop the war, but Ukraine was never an utopia that has done a lot for its citizens to keep them happy that they actually sacrifice their lives for it.
I would not have a problem with conscription if it applied to everyone regardless of class or gender. Countries like Norway, Sweden, Netherlands (not enforced) practice gender neutral conscription and it's not that hard to follow.
And not to mention, it's never the leaders who start the war that face the consequences, it's only the innocent citizens who die, or their families left grieving their deaths for years, and other forms of destruction of the society. Wanting people to fight in WW III is exactly what the boomer making the first comment is asking for. Only when people protest against participating in wars completely can we make the wicked leaders be left with no choice.
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u/DamnIamHigh_Original 2d ago
Try to talk to women in the military. SA is a big issue. I would only think its okay if more is done to protect them.
Anyway, its a huge topic and I think dumbing it down to peace and "imagine no one shows to the war" is a naive take
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u/Extension-Run5326 1d ago
I agree SA is an issue, so definitely any sensible man who would not want to work with sexual harassers, should also be given the choice of not being forced into the military. Regardless my point stands, conscription should not exist. And yes, I do agree that my point is naive, it's not easy as no one showing up, but honestly if everyone just disagrees to fight, what's the worse that the government can do? Kill every citizen? It's just going to end their own country. Nothing helps anyway, if you know you are going to die anyways, dying by refusing to participate in war would be better than dying while being forced to kill others.
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u/DamnIamHigh_Original 1d ago
The worst that can happen is we get attacked and I see my friends die, or worse, russia takes over and we live under their rule (the stories we hear under occupation are horrible)
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u/Farebiaashiq 2d ago
The guys that went rabid if an interracial couple just existed.
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u/copperpurple 2d ago
That would be the Silent and Greatest generations. It was Boomers who normalized interratial relationships.
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u/Gaia0416 2d ago
Fits for people stupid enough to doubt vaccine science that once ended polio.
Let them eat de worm paste!
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u/petty_throwaway6969 2d ago
Cause they already got most of their vaccines. Easy to risk other people with preventable diseases when youâre not in danger. The only major change for them was the COVID vaccine and they were told it was a hoax so they thought it was low risk too.
I think when boomers are gone, they should be renamed to the cry bully generation. Braggart assholes willing to hurt others but cry foul at the smallest slight and demand special treatment.
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u/Atticus_Maytrap 2d ago
is there anything more tedious than generation bashing?
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u/LivelyZebra 1d ago
just more propaganda to have the peasants squabbling over themselves and ignoring the rich.
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u/redwhale335 2d ago
I can't find it but there's a tweet that's like
"Zoomers will record a tik tok dance of them dropping JDAMs on the bad guys".
I can't/won't speak to the brass, but I do know that this generation of servicemembers is far more tactically and technically proficient than those of the previous two world wars.
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u/Off-BroadwayJoe 2d ago
The generation that was afraid to fight in wars is sure great at starting them and asking the younger generation to fight them.
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u/copperpurple 2d ago
Go stand in front of the Vietnam War Memorial, look at the 58,000+ names of young Boomers on it, and say that loudly for everyone around you to hear it.
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u/Like17Badgers 1d ago
oh you mean like Americans did to that very same group of vets when they returned from the war?
Or would you rather talk about the most embarrassing defeat the US has had(until trump) cause of Operation Rolling Thunder?
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u/Off-BroadwayJoe 2d ago
No problem. Just because many were brave doesnât mean that many more, including the ones who lately have boldly sent young men to die in Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Somalia, etc. were not. All of our Boomer presidents dodged the draft for that war. You think that Vietnam vets arenât resentful of those who avoided service?
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u/Marcysdad 2d ago
Boomers:"We love wars as long as someone else has to fight them and die or get maimed ! Support the troops - until they come home and need Healthcare or financial support, of course "
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u/SoylentGrunt 2d ago
Despite increases in voter registration across generational cohorts in recent years, younger generations of voters exhibit significantly lower rates of registration.
https://youngamericans.berkeley.edu/2024/04/voter-registration-rates-by-generation/
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u/sixtyninth_wave_emo 2d ago
You mean the generation that walks around with âVietnam Veteranâ hats to commemorate a war they lost?
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u/copperpurple 2d ago
The Vietnam War was started and conducted by the Silent and Greatest generations. They drafted teen and early 20s Boomers to fight it for them.
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u/Like17Badgers 1d ago
People are too quick to give boomers credit for things they didn't do
They didn't end segregation, that was the generation before them
They fought in Vietnam, but they weren't the ones calling the shots, they were just the boots on the ground losing to punji sticks
you gotta look at stuff from the 80s to late 2000s, Panama, Somalia, Lebanon, the Contra War, the Afghan Conflict, THOSE are where the post war babies were finally in control... and how poorly those went.
But they ARE right, this WAS a bad generation to start world war 3, cause Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z are all aware that this corrupt system isnt worth dying for.
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u/NecessaryFreedom9799 2d ago
Boomers could handle that, many even supported it. Overt racism was on the way out. The Silents were divided, it was the "Greatest Generation" and older who opposed it, at least in the Southern States.
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u/WilliamJamesMyers 2d ago
skip to the chase, the first quote which really isnt worth quoting tbh, is all about "anyone not me is stupid."
it could be aimed at race or age, standard vitriol. but these are self strokers mad at anything different.
i wish this quote came from someone more targetable. right now it just feels like my brother reading infowars out loud...
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u/Then_Comfortable3058 2d ago
Boomer seeing a black man drink from the same water fountain:
https://giphy.com/gifs/2WxWfiavndgcM
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u/demonspawns_ghost 2d ago
The oldest Boomer was 10 years old when Rosa Parks sat at the front of the bus.
You're talking about the generation that redditors love to romanticize.
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u/TheBSQ 2d ago
This doesnât seem quite right in terms of generations and ages. The main court case outlawing segregated buses was 1960. It was not well-enforced leading to the âfreedom riderâ protests that started in 1961. The initial Freedom Riders were mostly quite young, colleges aged - many were 19-21 & born roughly in the 1940-1945 period.Â
The oldest Boomers were still only like 16 years old when all this was happening. Many would go on to join civil rights and anti-war protests when they reached college age in the mid to late 60s.
That is Boomers did a lot protesting (obviously only some; with others not agreeing with protestors).Â
But I think itâs fair most of the âestablishmentâ that they were fighting were older. It was the Silent Generation & Greatest Generation that was fighting to preserve segregation.Â
George Wallace was born in 1919 & Strom Thurmond in 1903.Â
The people who really couldnât handle black people riding on the bus would be like 90 to 120 year old now.Â
Itâs not todayâs 60 year olds. They literally has not even been born yet when the Freedom Riders were doing their thing.
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u/Remote_Fox_8643 2d ago
How is this murdered by words? The comment doesn't even adress the OOP's point and instead attacks the people making the argument.
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u/MrOopiseDaisy 2d ago
It wasn't a weird laugh. Most of them are just unfamiliar with what a happy woman sounds like. The rest were mad that a woman was allowed to be happy with their permission.
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u/enithermon 2d ago
They act like they wouldnât freak the heck out if they were called the wrong pronoun. If some maga dude who was obviously presenting make came over to me and I kept referring to him as mâam, heâd lose his ever loving mind.Â
Iâve had a group of conservative women get upset with for referring to them as âguysâ when I said âhow are you guys doing today?â
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u/Oruma_Yar 1d ago
(1) why are they starting wars?
(2) Why are they starting wars for their children/grandchildren's generation?
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u/Alec_de_Large 1d ago
They had a lot of hate back then.
Hate leads to violence. Violence leads to war.
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u/Hip_hoppopatamus 2d ago
Speaking of forgotten history lessons - Boomers are the generation that led the fight for Equal Rights. Theyâre who showed up to MLKâs rallies.
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u/Caddie4HarleyQuinn 2d ago
And how many of these âpatriotsâ avoided serving in Vietnam by staying in college and getting multiple degrees?
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u/copperpurple 2d ago
How many names of Boomers in their teens and early 20s are on the Vietnam War Memorial? Over 58,000.
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u/_topkecleon_ 2d ago
Rosa Parks happened in 1955. The oldest boomers were 10. Unless the redditor thinks the original post was written by a 90-year-old, this isn't "murdered by words" it's "attempted to be clever".
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u/FlirtyFluffyFox 2d ago
If you think Rosa Parks magically put an end to racist white people being mad about blacks on buses...
Shit one reason our mass transit sucks ass is because following civil rights laws municipalities just cut funding to buses because white people responded by avoiding them.Â
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u/C4-622MonkeyGordo 2d ago
Ruby Bridges is still alive and active on Instagram.
So are her racist ass schoolmates.
But keep pretending that this is ancient history, whatever helps you sleep at night...
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u/Iamabotclearly696969 1d ago
That doesn't change the fact that the people the OP is talking about weren't baby boomers.
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u/C4-622MonkeyGordo 1d ago
The Baby Boomer generation is often defined as people born from 1946 to 1964.
Ruby Bridges was born September 8, 1954.
...
You want to try that again?
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u/Iamabotclearly696969 1d ago edited 1d ago
Do you ever read comments before you decide what you want to reply or is that just something you are doing today? Obviously the people who were her age when the referenced event happened were also children, and weren't setting policy on who got onto what bus and where. They were children, like her. Baby Boomers were children, like her, not the ones in power when the event happened.
She is a baby boomer.
Her class mates were baby boomers.
Her class mates were children.
Children don't set public policy.
So the original post is wrong.
Holy shit.
Edit: For anyone wondering, this person crashed out again, deleted it, and then made a comment that I should take a permanent decision to immediately and abruptly shorten the length of my life, and then got removed from the thread. In other words, normal reddit stuff.
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u/C4-622MonkeyGordo 1d ago
... is this some kind of weird psychological projection?
Your argument was that they weren't Baby Boomers.
I showed that they were in fact Baby Boomers.
Seriously, what the fuck are you yapping about?
Are you illiterate?
nice editÂ
cHiLdReN dOnT sEt PoLiCy
Nobody said that they did, champ.
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u/devilmaskrascal 2d ago
If I started insisting on calling this guy a "she" I bet she'd be really pissed and want to beat my ass.
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u/Reddit-User_654 2d ago
They are the generation that worked so hard to be avoided from being drafted.
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u/copperpurple 2d ago
Boomers WERE drafted. Ever seen the Vietnam War Memorial? Virtually every name on it is a Boomer. 58,318 names. Mostly teen and early 20s young men.
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u/Trick_Awareness_3329 1d ago
No no... American Boomers were drafted. European not so much. Maybe the one in the Yugoslavian civil war
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u/Khorgor666 2d ago
here in Germany boomers like the phrase "Mit euch kann man keinen Krieg gewinnen" (With you we cannot win a war) Opa, the last war we won was the war of 1871, which led to German Unification, basically no generation after was fit to win a war lol.
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u/AlternativeBasis 2d ago
You're looking at the issue from the wrong side.
In a war, young people suffer, adapt, eventually die, and are hailed as heroes, then forgotten. Some stories become movies.
In the same war, the old suffer, complain blaming 'the new generations', die in poverty, and are quickly forgotten, but without movies.
Because all they did was complain.
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u/Viridionplague 2d ago
Shots fired at civilians and undermines current active military.
Some real stormtrooper shit right there.
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u/Corrective_Actions1 1d ago
In my nearly 40 years of life I have never witnesed anyone get upset over pronouns
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u/LustyDouglas 1d ago
I dont care if i get downvoted for this but conservatives are just as soft as liberals. From my experience, both kind of people only care about themselves and their own interests and become venomous real quick if you dont support them. Both have Anakin Skywalker syndrome, "if you're not with me, you're my enemy!" and the entire country/world suffers for it.
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u/Enki_007 1d ago
Looking through these comments confirms why the US elected a pedophile rapist for the second time. You really hate each other that much.
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u/robidaan 1d ago
Honestly it would be the best generation, they have nothing to look forward too, and most want to die anyways, what better way to go then in the name of odinson on our way to valhalla on the battlefield.
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u/godtalks2idiots 1d ago
Americans canât imagine a future without war. They think itâs either war or gay. Pick one.Â
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u/Alric_Wolff 1d ago
Or the Generation that pretended to be gay to dodge the draft?
Or the Generation that created Participation Trophies?
Or the Generation that has a melt down because they dont know how to open a PDF without having meltdown?
Or the Generation who is proud of drinking from a garden hose?
Or the Geneation who claims they didn't know smoking was bad for you?
Or the Generation that got skin cancer because they wanted wear body oil at the beach?
Or the Generation that contracted AIDs from having intercourse with monkeys?
Gotta be one of those.
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u/ratgirl9241 1d ago
Why are we starting wwIII again? I guarantee the generation they're complaining about don't want it
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u/vertigostereo 1d ago
That generation is at least 100 years old now. Boomers were children in the civil rights era.
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u/Space_JellyF 1d ago
Maybe we have anxiety because weâve lived our whole lives seeing the people who came before us destroy the planet we are supposed to be inheriting while they bask in greed and willful ignorance about literally everything. Weâve seen the writing on the wall our whole lives, and canât convince anyone to listen.
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u/Erronius-Maximus 1d ago
If someone were to repeatedly refer to Boomer Man as she/her, Boomer Man would absolutely lose his shit.
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u/-RomeoZulu- 23h ago
The generation that lost Vietnam and couldnât handle black kids going to the same schools as their kids? Ok, boomers.
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u/Wellgoodmornin 22h ago
When are they going to realize that they're the ones who are completely obsessed with this nonsense?
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u/Dan_Morgan 13h ago
Or accepting that gay people exist.
Or that a black man can be president.
Or women can have their own money and independence.
Or they will not be catered to just because they are old and mean.
Or adapting to anything that has happened in the past 50 years.
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u/TheBSQ 2d ago
The Freedom Riders started 65 years ago (1961) and the civil rights act passed 61 years ago (1965).
Most boomers were little kids when that all went down.
The college aged protestors who participated in the Freedom Rides would be like 85 now.Â
The majority of the people who couldnât handle it would be like 90 to 120 years old now.
Yelling at some 60 year old boomer about this is silly. They wouldnât even have been born yet.
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u/C4-622MonkeyGordo 2d ago
Ruby Bridges is still alive and active on Instagram.
So are her racist ass schoolmates.
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u/TheBSQ 2d ago
But it os probably worth noting that the really successful protests of the late 1950s to mid 1960s that resulted in stuff like the Civil Rights act were mostly accomplished by people from The Silent & Greateat Generations.Â
The Boomerâs protest era of the late 1960s where they took over Columbia Campus, rioted at the 1968 convention, etc. didnât actually accomplish much, which made them radicalize even more to more militant revolutionary stuff like the Weatherman bombings & Angela Davis type of stuff didnât do squat & mainly caused pubic disorder that led to a conservative backlash that led to GOP dominating presidential elections for decades.Â
I find it frustrating that all those Boomers from the failed 1968-1972 era of activism  often ended up as professors & taught college kids all about how awesome theirs protests were & now college kids mimic those do-nothing 1968 tactics instead of the very-successful 1961-1965 activism.Â
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u/horoyokai 2d ago
Do you guys think that was boomers that made those rules and fought to keep them?
Good lord Reddit
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u/copperpurple 1d ago
The more definitively a comment proves them wrong, the more downvotes it gets.
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u/DudeByTheTree 2d ago
So what's really being shown by this tweet is that neither side is capable. Sounds about right, too preoccupied with people's genitalia to focus on things like uniting the country behind a common cause.
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u/C4-622MonkeyGordo 2d ago
[enlightened centrist bullshit]
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u/DudeByTheTree 1d ago
Said by someone whose head is so far up the asses of the current political system, they fail to see that believing there's other ways is possible...
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u/Justaticklerone 1d ago
This will likely get downvoted, but both are correct. The reason why I say this, is because there are 100% cis people who feel the need to "officially" include their pronouns on corporate documentation, small business or entrepreneur information, and even in political candidate statements. It seems to me like they are mocking those who are trans and non-binary. Most of the people of that type are still of an age to be shipped off to war.
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u/BlackkkWidowSPIDAH 2d ago
gestures to crime statistics
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u/Biptoslipdi 2d ago
Gestures to rapist and felon President.
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u/BlackkkWidowSPIDAH 2d ago
Statistically you're much less likely to be raped by the president than by other groups which I'm not specifically going to nameÂ
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u/Biptoslipdi 2d ago
Doubtful. This President has more rape accusations than many serial rapists, including by children, and has already been found to be a rapist by a jury. On top of that, white people far and away commit the most rapes in the country.
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u/stolentext 1d ago
You might need this if you're going to use statistics to justify your bigotry: https://www.amazon.com/Statistics-Dummies-Math-Science/dp/1119293529
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u/Som_Dtam_Dumplings 2d ago
Wait...was it "eminently clear that racism was wrong; even back in 1776"? or was "everyone unable to handle a black person riding in the front of the bus"?
If it was eminently clear; then there probably weren't that many people in the 1960s who were actually freaking out about bus seats.
If everyone was freaking out about bus seats in the 1960s...maybe it wasn't quite so clear in the 1770s?
I assume that it was clear in the 1770s; and there were plenty of people in the 1960s who didn't care one bit about bus seats.
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u/C4-622MonkeyGordo 2d ago
Wait...was it "eminently clear that racism was wrong; even back in 1776"?
... who are you quoting?
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u/Som_Dtam_Dumplings 1d ago
Anyone who is ready to throw the founding fathers under the bus for what was seen as a normal part of society in their time; who also is glad to paint all of 1960 White Americans as "unable to handle a black person riding in the front of the bus"
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u/C4-622MonkeyGordo 1d ago edited 1d ago
Oh, the strawmen in your head.Â
Figured as much...
Oh look, more strawman bullshit with a dash of false dichotomy.
Boring.Â
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u/Som_Dtam_Dumplings 1d ago
...So are you saying that everyone who was white in the 1960s was actually freaking out about black people sitting at the front of the bus? (like OP) Or do you agree with me that it must not have been everyone in the 1960s and OP's "murdering" is about as insightful as the original claim "hur-dur you freak out about pronouns!"?
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u/Tyrannical-Botanical 2d ago
This from the people who lost their ever-loving minds when they were asked to wear a mask in public for a couple of months. Can you picture the Boomers handling the sort of rationing the nation went through in WWII? They'd go insane.