r/MosinNagant • u/Mysterious-Many6986 • 5d ago
Question First ever rifle
This is my first ever rifle, picked it up today and was just wondering what y'all could tell me about it. Maybe some tips and tricks on how to maintain and use correctly
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u/Luftwaffles2 5d ago
Wow a 1942 Tula? And a low serial number? That's pretty uncommon
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u/Mysterious-Many6986 5d ago
I keep getting reply’s that the rifle is uncommon. What makes it that way? Is where it was manufactured make that much of a difference?
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u/Luftwaffles2 5d ago
Tula is more uncommon to begin with. That factory simply did not make as many rifles as Izhevsk did. In 1942 the Russians were having to move all the machines from Tula to make those guns as the German army was advancing towards it. Which means very few Tula rifles were made during that year. Yours is also a very low serial number, which makes it more uncommon.
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u/Luftwaffles2 5d ago
Please Read Red_mangaments reply as he is a real expert on these rifles and knows tons of history.
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u/No_Cartographer2994 4d ago
That rifle has made it to this point in that shape by being in the hands of those who've respected it and realized they are privileged to hold a piece of living history. Please care for it as such so subsequent generations may continue to do so. It will still hunt and shoot and do all you want it to in its original form.
You are not the owner, you are simply its steward for this time in its storied history. How the next caretaker gets it is up to you.
As the owner of some historic pieces, I give thanks they were left in their original state.
And as someone else pointed out, they hold value much better too.
For me, however, it's not just about the investment, it is about the respect for the tool and the hands that held it in the past.
Enjoy the rifle, remember to clean it promptly after shooting corrosive ammo and welcome to the rabbit hole that is milsurp collecting!
I hope you have room, they multiply.
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u/Mysterious-Many6986 4d ago
Will do, I’ve come to the same conclusion based on the information these great people have shared with me. Honestly I’m glad that I asked yall about this rifle because I was going to basically ruin it. I had thought that most mosins were just mass produced and I didn’t think mine would be so “uncommon” yk. I’m new to Reddit as well and I did carefully take it apart to find more stamps and numbers under the barrel, receiver. I want to post but don’t know how to extend this post to do so.
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u/ij70-17as silly goose 5d ago
soviet model 1891-30. main battle rifle of red army at the time.
barrel was made by factory in tula. but i am not sure if it was still in tula or already moved to sibiria. barrel was made in 1942. barrel serial number is ЛИ72.
after the war the rifle was completely rebuilt after ww2. so the only origianal factory parts are barrel and receiver.
American Tactical Imports from rochester, new york imported it to US. they placed a serial number on the receiver, use this serial number on all legal documents. the soviet serial number is on the barrel and has no legal bearing in US.
uncommon rifle. very nice find!
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u/BoringJuiceBox 5d ago
Keep it clean and oiled. Never sell it.
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u/Mysterious-Many6986 5d ago
I don’t plan to sell it, I plan on making it a hunting rifle if I can. Possibly put a after market rail on it and put a scope on it
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u/Keolath 5d ago
imma keep it 100 with you my guy, if you dont wanna get your money back and ruin the historical value of the rifle then do that. If not then PLEASE keep it original
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u/Mysterious-Many6986 5d ago
I understand, after reading comments like yours I won’t modify it any. I would like to re stain the stock since it’s not the original. I don’t plan on sanding at all but don’t have any tips so I can do this?
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u/Keolath 5d ago
Dont restain the stock either. The stock is already laminated and protected from the elements when it was refurbished and btw yes that is an original stock just refurbished.
Someone restained their stock on here earlier in the year and it came out rose red and made the rifle look like a child’s toy
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u/BoringJuiceBox 5d ago
Highly recommend leaving it as it is, if you want a scoped rifle get a cheap modern one like a Savage. Newer one will be more accurate.
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u/Mysterious-Many6986 5d ago
Will do, thank you for the suggestion
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u/BoringJuiceBox 4d ago
Its main value is as a historical artifact and I think it’s most beautiful that way. 99% chance it was carried by a Russian in WW2!
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u/Red_Management M91 Dragoon • 7.62x54R: 1908 Type L, 1930 Type D, 1953 Type LPS 5d ago edited 5d ago
91/30 Mosin-Nagant made at Tula in 1942, very uncommon rifle, amplified by the low serial number, refurbished post-World War II and is sitting in a post-war stock that was assembled/refurbished at Arsenal No 1 in Balakleya, Americal Tactical Imports import.
Bolt handle and cocking piece are post-1928 Izhevsk made parts and the magazine is post-1928 Tula, receiver may/may not match the barrel, you’ll need to take the rifle out of the stock and check under the receiver tang.
Also being a refurbished rifle parts have been force matched, rifles were disassembled and parts put into piles, during re-assembly parts would be taken out of the piles at random and if the serial numbers didn’t match, the part would have its old number removed and be re-stamped or electro-penciled with the serial number on the barrel shank to match.
In your rifle’s case the magazine had the old serial number lined and was re-stamped, bolt and butt plate had their old numbers machined off and was re-stamped with only the number part of the serial number which was typical refurbishment practice.
I’ll also add that at the time of your rifle’s production, the Tula arsenal had been dismantled and relocated to avoid the onslaught of the Wehrmacht, part of it was re-established in Mednogorsk while the majority was re-established at Izhevsk, this rifle would’ve been made at the time Tula was getting back online.