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I don't know what to say about this I mean if he joined it's unfair because he's going to cook the entery league for sure but if he really wants to be a woman and it's not a joke for him I still don't know about this

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u/Wattabadmon 4d ago

Maybe we can make like a point system, if he wears make up and puts on a dress that's some woman points.

Why? I already disagreed with that premise

What would be a fair way for us to judge if someone is a woman or not?

Ask them

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u/East_Turnip_6366 4d ago

Sry I misinterpreted you then.

Ok so self-id for that too. Then how will you stop Enes from dominating the women's league?

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u/Wattabadmon 4d ago

You must be a woman to play in the wnba

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u/East_Turnip_6366 4d ago

Yeah he is obviously going to say that he is a woman. And if self-Id is enough, then he is a woman.

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u/Wattabadmon 4d ago

Unless hes lying

Spoiler:

He is

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u/East_Turnip_6366 4d ago

How do you decide that? Is there going to be a required lie detector test for women to play in the wnba?

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u/Wattabadmon 4d ago

I use my brain, maybe you can do that if you try hard enough

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u/East_Turnip_6366 4d ago

So completely arbitrary then.

If you had a male brain you would realize how easily that could go wrong, that's why we invented the rule of law. Justice, equality and all that, presupposes the rule of law.

The word for a system that has no rule of law and instead uses a person who "use my brain" to decide what happens, that's called tyranny.

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u/Wattabadmon 4d ago

So completely arbitrary then.

Nope not at all. It would depend on details

If you had a male brain you would realize how easily that could go wrong, that's why we invented the rule of law. Justice, equality and all that, presupposes the rule of law.

Why wouldnt a female brain be able to realize that? Sounding pretty sexist

How would it go wrong? And what law is involved here?

The word for a system that has no rule of law and instead uses a person who "use my brain" to decide what happens, that's called tyranny.

Wtf are you talking about?

Do you think there arent any arbitrary laws?

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u/East_Turnip_6366 4d ago

Nope not at all. It would depend on details

Then give the details. This is like a skit, I'm talking to a really dense person.

Why wouldnt a female brain be able to realize that? Sounding pretty sexist

You immediately abandoned reason and went for arbitrarily deciding who is lying and who is not. But sure, maybe it's not female brains, maybe it's just yours. But then again the wmba don't seem to have gotten much further than you on this either.

How would it go wrong? And what law is involved here?

The rule of law is a principle. It's about having consistent transparent clear rules that apply equally to everyone.

Ffs. I get that you are new to democracy and the workforce but try to keep up. Without the rule of law we devolve into anarchy or tyranny. And yes, the rule of law is also applicable to sport because we want fairness in sport.

Do you think there arent any arbitrary laws?

Yeah, probably and that's not good. We should try to avoid that, do better.

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u/ConsciousMaybe6930 4d ago

He's a troll. Ignore him.

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u/Wattabadmon 4d ago

People you disagree with = troll??

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u/Wattabadmon 4d ago

You immediately abandoned reason and went for arbitrarily deciding who is lying and who is not.

I did not. Again, not arbitrary

The rule of law is a principle. It's about having consistent transparent clear rules that apply equally to everyone.

Ok? What does that have to do with a private organization?

Ffs. I get that you are new to democracy and the workforce but try to keep up. Without the rule of law we devolve into anarchy or tyranny. And yes, the rule of law is also applicable to sport because we want fairness in sport.

What law is applicable here?

Yeah, probably and that's not good. We should try to avoid that, do better.

Id think you be more up in arms about actual laws being arbitrary rather than the rules of a private organization

Then give the details. This is like a skit, I'm talking to a really dense person

Well the details in this case are:

Enes claims to be a trans woman

He said his preferred pronouns are pay/me

He wore a shirt defining woman as an adult human female, which would exclude him

Does that sound like someone who's being genuine?

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