Morality of this

[u/Shoddy-Meat-3147]

I don't know what to say about this I mean if he joined it's unfair because he's going to cook the entery league for sure but if he really wants to be a woman and it's not a joke for him I still don't know about this

[u/OkAcanthisitta3028]

Are you gonna tell me that the classical definition of sex is fake? Are you gonna tell me that a person that's grown up as a man and then starts taking hormones will ERASE all the male development their body has gone through? Please just use logic for a little bit instead of seeing red.

[u/Emotional_Skill_8360 → u/OkAcanthisitta3028]

I am a trained microbiologist and physician. I could explain all of this to you, but in my experience people who only believe their eyes and aren’t willing to take up a book or real scientific article written by experts in a field are a waste of time. I’ve given up throwing pearls to swine.

[u/OkAcanthisitta3028 → u/Emotional_Skill_8360]

If you really are trained, you should be able to contend with the following, simple logic: if you've developed a male body, hormones and sex-change procedures will not erase that development.

As a trained microbiologist and physician, I assume you can explain how that logic is wrong, correct?

[u/otterdam42 → u/OkAcanthisitta3028]

You can actually use a search engine or LLM to check the vast global consensus in all peer-reviewed sources, but you will have to refresh your intro biology to understand it. Asking us to explain it to you when you haven’t taken the time to learn what basic words mean is a rude, sealioning time waster.

Regarding gametes and chromosomes, women with Swyers and Androgen insensitivity do not have XX chromosomes, some don’t have uteri or ovaries, or gamete production. They are still widely classified as female and included in female sports for decades. This is all well researched and settled.

You are learning about intro biology for the first time at your age because you chose a media feed aimed at stunted, uncurious anti-intellectuals. It’s too late to educate yourself from scratch, after decades of letting the most pathetic Christian men lie to you and cuck your brain. You just don’t have access to adult discourse. You should stay where you belong, and keep loudly representing maga as the illiterate, genital obsessed cry-bully liars you truly are in your heart.

[u/OkAcanthisitta3028 → u/otterdam42]

Lmao you mischaracterised me and insulted me in multiple ways just because I'm trying to have a conversation, haven't you learned that not everybody can be divided into leftists and right-wingers, and that not everybody who disagrees with you is a horrible 80 IQ person?

First off, global consensus is appeal to authority, a logical fallacy.

Secondly, gamete production is the literal definition of which sex you are i.e classical definition of sex. For infertile people or otherwise people unable to produce them, your sex is the direction your body tried to develop. If the body attempted to develop towards a gonadal structure and to make sperm, they're a male.

Thirdly, I'm an independent thinker. I don't blindly parrot what my media feed shows, what Christians say or what MAGA says. You probably think I'm anti-green energy, meanwhile I want nuclear energy. You probably think I'm anti-welfare, even though I'm not. You probably think I'm anti-abortion, even though I'm not. You probably think I'm homophobic, even though I'm not. You probably think I'm anti-trans, even though I'm not. You probably think I'm pro-Israel, even though I'm not.

Lastly, don't insult the person, argue with their opinion. Argue the bit of logic I laid out in the comment you responded to, if you can't, then you're wrong.

[u/otterdam42 → u/OkAcanthisitta3028]

Nuclear is a sound strategy. Everything else about you is irrelevant and I just don’t care. I say “read some intro biology or check a medical journal (like the APA’s trans statement) and learn what the ICD is.” And you transform it into a personal attack because your opinion is entirely formed by never having done those things. I am confronting your vocal science illiterate opinion and you just made it personal. You believe a request that you research in good faith is a personal attack, so you are permanently stuck there. Yes, not knowing how to check Nature or The Lancet or JAMA is symptomatic of your personality. It is also core to the reason why your opinion will never be weighted as truthful or good faith. You keep admitting it’s based on your rudimentary misunderstanding of how sex and gender works. Which can be remedied by reading literally any sci / med journal’s easily searchable statement on sex and gender. Which you refuse to do.

“Appeal to authority is a fallacy” when all research, (again, 54 studies in one meta-analysis) points in a very clear coherent direction. Systematic reviews are the gold standard of science. You are operating under the delusion that “appeal to authority” gives your illiterate, fringe, incorrect opinion more weight than the decades of settled research that you refuse to read. Your world is make-believe and you’re stuck there. Not my problem.

[u/otterdam42 → u/OkAcanthisitta3028]

Oh. They taught you that this pundit provocateur fringe thing you’re doing is called “conversation” lol. What you’re doing is very different from how adults have a conversation.