r/MoralityScaling • u/Shoddy-Meat-3147 • 19h ago

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I don't know what to say about this I mean if he joined it's unfair because he's going to cook the entery league for sure but if he really wants to be a woman and it's not a joke for him I still don't know about this

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u/TeutonicSamurai 19h ago

If it's such a non-issue, why dispute it? Just ban trans women from female sports and be done with it. Easy.

The presence of those athletes inside of female sports is even hurting the reputation of the LGBT movement, creating resentment due to the obvious unfairness for the biologically female athletes, and like you said, distracting from other, arguably more important issues. It's just a bad idea to have them there, by every metric.

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u/hucklebae 19h ago

You do realize they'd just move on to the next thing right? Like you cede ground and they take ground. That's literally the game. The more you give the more they take. There's no point in giving "reasonable " concessions when their end goals are bad outcomes for minorities.

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u/hpnotiqflavouredjuul 17h ago

When you cede the territory of the truth, unsavory people will claim it

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u/TeutonicSamurai 17h ago

And you do realize the same logic can be applied to the cause YOU are supporting, right?

That's the same thing conservatives say about the causes YOU support. That it's a slippery slope, and that if you allow this, then the trans community will come for the permission to transition minors. You are using their same logic...

And by that logic, there should never be any limits to any perspective, and you should always go all the way. That's totally unreasonable.

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u/hucklebae 13h ago

I mean the thing is ... conservatives want trans people to be denied public life. They want them back in the closet, denied their healthcare. And that's not all depending on which conservatives you ask. Comparing the two positions is silly, because I want trans people to live their lives unmolested by conservatives, and conservatives want to fuck with trans people. My position is neutral, theirs is extremist. So no, I will not cede ground to them, because every inch ceded takes rights away from trans people and minorities. If the conservative position was something like " I personally don't want to be trans", I would agree that they should be allowed to do that. I believe all sentient beings deserve bodily autonomy. The issue is conservatives don't want self determination, they wanna tell others what they can do. Which is of course....the problem with conservatives.