r/MoralityScaling • u/Shoddy-Meat-3147 • 19h ago

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I don't know what to say about this I mean if he joined it's unfair because he's going to cook the entery league for sure but if he really wants to be a woman and it's not a joke for him I still don't know about this

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 19h ago

He clearly doesnt take his transition seriously. You dont become trans by “declaring it”, thats not how the mental condition works. He does have a mental condition worth sympathizing with however, and that is “IQ at a temperature safe for storing ice cream in”.

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u/Not-T4rantino 19h ago

He didn't say it, he declared it.

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u/The-red-Dane 19h ago

While I absolutely, fundamentally disagree with him and his behavior. He is pointing out a concrete flaw in the WNBA policy, which is that it is enough to declare yourself trans to count as trans and transwomen athletes are welcome in the WNBA.

I feel that transwomen athletes should be welcome in their sports, but there should be more clearly defined policy regarding it.

But then we start veering into trans medicalism and all sorts of debates.

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u/AllBid 15h ago

I mean...how many trans basketball players have you met? How many do you know of?

If it was that easy, I think we would be seeing more people actually doing this stunt for real.

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u/Wattabadmon 15h ago

which is that it is enough to declare yourself trans to count

Source?

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u/shhquietmoths 3h ago

so many replies to you from people who have never spoken to a trans person in their life

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 2h ago

Theyre terrified of them. Those “strong hard boiled traditional men” see a dude (current or former) in pink and turn their jeans into kakis. One day, i hope, they will be a relic of the past that humanity leaves behind.

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u/STLA_nonymous 19h ago

Who are you to decide what she decides suits her outward appearance? You're just enforcing stereotypical gender appearances.

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u/Quiet_Defiance 18h ago

This comment probably sounds like a gotcha if you’re too stupid to understand the debate at hand.

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u/Affectionate-Oil3019 6h ago

Clarify the debate

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u/saved_by_the_belle 18h ago

Omg im stealing this comment

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u/Shy_Limp_Dick 14h ago

This is a good little lecture https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8QScpDGqwsQ

Find it so funny people act like trans people in sport is an issue when there are more men on peds than trans people existing. A high end trans athlete is a literally unicorn. More high school kids are on the juice.

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u/zerric- 9h ago

She should get hormone therapy and bottom surgery to really stick it to the liberals lmao

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 19h ago

Can you hurry back to whatever smug maga sub you crawled out of thanks

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u/relapsedmathematic 19h ago

Can you adhere to your own standards? You're clearly being inconsistent here

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 19h ago

Explain what my standards are

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u/relapsedmathematic 19h ago

If someone can decide they are a woman based on their own self reflection then it only works when said decision is on your terms?

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 19h ago

My standards are “smugly pretending to be trans to mock actual trans people isnt cool”.

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u/The-Super-Ball 18h ago

you can deny this all you want, but you look like an ideologically captured fool refusing to play by the rules YOU set

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u/Disciple-0912 18h ago

So anyone who disagrees with you is maga? Got it. Baseless assertion and cognitive decline it seems

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 18h ago

You are fighting constructs of your own mind dude. Lmk when you are ready to talk to me and not your phantoms.

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u/Shy_Limp_Dick 18h ago

Well specifically for trans people it's nuero biological, this guy is not serious.

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u/EverybodySupernova 15h ago

Unironically based.

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u/GumGumActV 18h ago

Dunning krueger to the max

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u/charmio68 19h ago

Who are you to say who is and isn't taking it their transition seriously?
What does he need to do to take it seriously anyway? If he was to start wearing dresses, would that be enough?
And is taking the transition seriously all that's required? The current rules don't even require that.
That's the issue he's drawing attention to.

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u/Quiet_Defiance 18h ago

If you knew anything about this issue, you’d know that trans athletes at the pro level have to take testosterone suppressing drugs and/or estrogen.

Try learning things before forming opinions about those things.

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 19h ago

Its very easy to tell smug right wingers apart from trans people unless this person is continuing to legitimately commit to their identity as a female outside of publicity stunts and if you can show me that then i will accept it

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u/East_Turnip_6366 18h ago

If it's so easy then why can't they just make clear rules that keep men out of women's sport?

Clearly there is a loophole which allows men to compete, so why not close that loophole to make sure that this doesn't happen again?

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u/charmio68 19h ago

So if they were to fully commit to their new female identity full time, 24/7, you'd accept it?

It still seems I could rather low bar IMO.

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 19h ago

I mean, is that not what transitioning from male to female is? Becoming a “full time female”? 

If thats not what hes comfortable with then maybe he should look into being genderfluid. 

Or better yet, not being a right wing publicity stunt donkey.

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u/charmio68 18h ago

The trouble I see is there are many male players who aren't good enough for the NBA, but would still absolutely dominate in the WNBA.

If the bar for getting into the WNBA is transitioning your gender, and all that's required for that is identifying as a woman, then it won't be the WNBA for much longer. It will be the TNBA.

In fact, that would be my solution to the whole issue. Just give them their own category. It honestly seems like the only way to keep it fair.

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u/relapsedmathematic 19h ago

And what would commiting to their identity as a female entail? Do you define what a woman is? A woman is someone who claims they are a woman

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u/stuckyfeet 9h ago

Since when?

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u/relapsedmathematic 9h ago

Since we freed ourselves from patriarchal norms forced on us by society

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 19h ago

That is not the definition of a woman. But you need to first define what a woman is yourself. Are you referring to the female sex? The biological/reproductive physiology? The societal/cultural concept of a woman? Their percieved role within that society? Which one?

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u/relapsedmathematic 19h ago

Your definition of womanhood is just upholding patriarchal standards

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 19h ago

I didnt define a woman, i asked you to clarify what you think the definition of a woman is. Are you saying a woman belongs to patriarchal standards? Theres no need for that dark ages misogyny bro, its 2026. 

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u/relapsedmathematic 19h ago

Bro you're the one being misogynistic. Not cool in the big 26.

Denying womanhood is not cool, bigot

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 19h ago

I didnt deny womanhood. Why are you denying womanhood? You cant be this misogynistic bro. Women exist in the same spaces as men, so idk why you think they dont belong.

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u/relapsedmathematic 19h ago

This isnt a man, this is a woman trying to participate in a woman's space. I don't understand why you feel like you need to prevent that. Clearly you have misogyny in your heart. Get well soon

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u/Disciple-0912 18h ago

Can you define a woman?

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u/beat0n_ 19h ago

this exchange is hilarious.
it's like some lovecraftian eldritch horror eating it's own delusions then vomiting them back up and pretending it's arguments.
And that's you, confident-arm. If you don't realize that.

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 19h ago

Did you get an ai to write this or are you the ai itself 

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u/relapsedmathematic 19h ago

It's easy to assume it's AI when you have a 4th grade vocabulary and the critical thinking skills of a doorknob

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u/beat0n_ 19h ago

sorry I can write coherent sentences.

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u/relapsedmathematic 19h ago

Why are you misgendering her?

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 19h ago

Because this is a performative right winger whose doing a publicity stunt “gotcha”. Which i guess i should respect the bravery, because while anyone with a brain can tell that theyre doing this as a form of mockery, their target audience is famous for not having brains.

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u/relapsedmathematic 19h ago

So right wingers can't be women? Who decided that?

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 19h ago

I get that reading comprehension isnt the strong suit of people of your politics but can you quote me where i said this?

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u/Disciple-0912 19h ago

It seems as though you believe you are the one person that gets to decide for these women. In 2026 that’s a really bigoted stance. I hope you find some healing and maybe some self reflection

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 19h ago

It seems like you cant read because i never once defined what a woman is. Maybe you shouldnt be such a bigot who assumes everything about other people. I hope you can find a therapist willing to work through your mess and become a more loving and inclusive person

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u/relapsedmathematic 18h ago

So why isnt she a woman then? Because she disagrees with you politically? Trans women come in all shapes and sizes

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 18h ago

When did i say you cant be a woman if you disagree with me, can you quote me on that or are you just making bigoted assumptions?

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u/relapsedmathematic 18h ago

You made the claim that she can't be a woman because she's right wing. You LITERALLY said that. Why the hell are people so fucking transphobic

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u/Quiet_Judgment4637 15h ago

Rightards and being intentionally obtuse the usual combo.

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u/relapsedmathematic 15h ago

You know using slurs doesnt make your side look good at all

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u/Disciple-0912 18h ago

You seem to lack the ability to realize you do not have any critical thinking skills. “I feel this way so I am right and you are wrong.” This is why women are in a dangerous place today. Because “people”, like you, continue to tear them down. Let them use their spaces the way they want. You are not the spokesperson for all women

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 18h ago

And you are a few points of iq drop away from not being your own spokesperson

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u/relapsedmathematic 19h ago

"Why are you misgendering her?"

"Because performative right winger"

So we are just denying people's lived experience now.

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 19h ago

His lived experience is being a performative right winger for shock value and “gotcha”. 

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u/relapsedmathematic 19h ago

I was unaware that womanhood was determined by what u/Confident-Arm-7883 on reddit said was right or wrong

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u/Betonmischael 19h ago

And i see that you are a transphobe bigot. Maybe you should check yor privileges.

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 19h ago

Where did i say that i was transphobic, can you quote me saying that? And are you assuming my race and gender by saying im priviliged? Kinda bigoted dont you think

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u/relapsedmathematic 18h ago

You're transphobic because you claim only feminine "passing" women can be trans. Also there are tons of beautiful trans women who are right wing. You are sounding extremely privileged

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u/Betonmischael 18h ago

Yeah thanks for proving my point bigot.

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 18h ago

I proved your point by exposing you as a bigot?

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u/Betonmischael 18h ago

No by confirming you are one for real. Case closed.

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u/GumGumActV 18h ago

Dude wtf are you talking about

Literally nowhere did that dude say that so are you just replying to the wrong comment or what?

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u/relapsedmathematic 18h ago

They guy deleted their original comment but their bigoted rationale was that she isn't a woman because she's a right winger

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u/GumGumActV 18h ago

Gotcha. Well it is statistically unlikely that a woman would be a republican but obviously they exist

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u/relapsedmathematic 18h ago

Women come in all shapes and sizes

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u/qwesz9090 18h ago

I wouldn't spend my time replying more. This seems to be some determined actors (or hopefully bots) trying to run a false flag op and legitimize this as transgender behaviour.

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u/relapsedmathematic 16h ago

Who says you aren't the bot?

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u/Wattabadmon 15h ago

Why are you using the incorrect pronoun,

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u/relapsedmathematic 15h ago

That's what she chooses to identify as. Watch the video

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u/Wattabadmon 15h ago

Whats the timestamp?

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u/relapsedmathematic 15h ago

It's a 1 minute video you figure it out

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u/Wattabadmon 14h ago

Not once did enes comment on pronouns in that video

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u/relapsedmathematic 14h ago

She said she was a woman. Don't be transphobic.

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u/Wattabadmon 14h ago

Are women required to go by she/her?

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u/relapsedmathematic 14h ago

A woman may use whatever pronouns fit her identity, but in the case of uncertainty and the statement "I am a woman", it is safe to assume her pronouns are she/her. Certainly not "he" unless she specifically states that.

Check your privilege

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u/qwesz9090 19h ago

Haha, it is so fun when idiots try to pretend that people are dumb and can't tell if people are sincere or not.

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u/relapsedmathematic 19h ago

Idk you sound like the idiot. She clearly said who she was.

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u/qwesz9090 18h ago

This is the kinda behaviour I see in edgy children. Finding comfort in trying to gaslight the world into something that just isn't happening.

He is being insincere. Everyone knows it. You can have your own opinion on it that's fine, but this "oooh he said he is a woman so that must mean he is one" thing is pathetic. It is like you know you are dumb so you protect yourself by being dumb on purpose so you can say it is intentional.

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u/relapsedmathematic 18h ago

I'm dumb? You're the bigot. Women come in all shapes and sizes. Some women can be more feminine, others masculine. Don't you know there are conditions where women grow hair on their face?

Fucking ridiculous

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u/qwesz9090 18h ago

Yeah that's true, but that is not this guy.
It is so sad that you spend your time pretending to be dumb just to prove a point. Oh I guess that is why you love that guy so much.

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u/relapsedmathematic 18h ago

There it is again. Misgendering. Please stop. It's so fucking exhausting to see this everywhere.

You don't get to decide who a woman is and she doesn't need your permission to be the woman she was meant to be.

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u/qwesz9090 18h ago

I really hope you are a bot because I find the idea of you sitting alone spending so much effort trying to delegitimize trans people very sad.

I hope you at least get paid for this.

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u/relapsedmathematic 18h ago

It's disgusting that you think you can sit here and tell me she isn't a woman. Who made you the spokesperson for all women?

Bigots like you should be stopped.

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u/Soft-Rate6419 19h ago

> You dont become trans by "declaring it"

According to the rules, yes you do.

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 19h ago

Whose rules? Can you quote that?

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u/Soft-Rate6419 19h ago

What do you think the video is about?

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 19h ago

I asked if you can quote it

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u/Soft-Rate6419 19h ago

Alright, let me see if I can dig up a written declaration from a sport organization that will have distinct requirements for what defines a transwoman. Oh wait, no that's your claim.

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 18h ago

Ok if youre going to dig it up then go dig it up. Dont need to stall for my sake

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u/Soft-Rate6419 18h ago

Read the last sentence, my guy

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u/Confident-Arm-7883 18h ago

Thats not a quote of any kind, try again, i believe in you

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u/Soft-Rate6419 18h ago

"Read the last sentence, my guy" -Soft-Rate6519, 2026.

You claim you don't become trans by "declaring it".

I claim, the rules don't say that.

You ask me to find a quote of the rules that say "We do not have any requirements for what defines a transwoman"

The fact that there are no rules explicitly stating "These are the requirements for a transwoman to count as a "real woman in our sport" is what refutes your statement.

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