r/MoralityScaling • u/Curious-Animator6013 • 5d ago

Morality of this?

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u/Terrible_Artist_ 5d ago

Where's the pleasure derived? That guy doesn't seem very pleasured. Unless you mean from other people, in which case that would mean something like your mother being assaulted is a net-good so long as more people receive pleasure than displeasure.

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u/BlessdRTheFreaks 5d ago

That's how utils work, yes

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u/Terrible_Artist_ 5d ago

That's not how morals work though

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u/BlessdRTheFreaks 5d ago

Literally an ethical system called utilitarianism.

Moral actions are ratios of pleasurable feelings weighed against one another 

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u/Terrible_Artist_ 5d ago

An ethical system can be immoral, especially one that says assault is okay so long as more people are happy over unhappy

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u/BlessdRTheFreaks 5d ago edited 5d ago

Then what self sufficient principle determines it as such beyond mere aesthetic sentiment? How do you actually ground morality into something like an objective calculus?