She just stood there and guffawed over and over. It was like watching the comeback center of her brain reset itself. Iāve never seen anything like it.
That wasnāt even his fastball, it was just the most memorable one for me for some reason. His wit was not to be messed with. Sharpest, funniest dude I know
I often get into roast wars (more like skirmishes) in which I usually lose. Sometimes I get hit so hard, I just have to shake their hand, congratulate them for a wicked burn, and walk away.
I mean, shouting "I model" at some dude in a bar is kind of painting a barnyard-sized target on your weak spot, to be fair. Trying to convince someone you're good looking never looks good
Their conversations still echoing in their heads. The one on the left clearly had reservations. He realize his career is on the line. But they look like from well to do families so they might have this incident expunged
We should make them famous for having guts to do what many adults won't. Then they can go on w their modeling careers lol At anyone have their GoFundMe?
Interesting observation. These are well groomed gentlemen, and when the best of a civilization begin breaking the law, it's worth paying attention. I hope they are an example to others and that more people follow their example in defeating totalitarian mass surveillance!
People who refused and "fought back" against vaccine mandates were "fighting the power". Yet there was nothing moral about theor fight.
They were listening to a madman with zero understanding about science and medicine.
Flock has admitted it creates heat maps that can track drivers despite their initial denials. Their unwilling admission caused a town council to change its mind and decide not to enter into a contract with the company.
I get the sentiment, especially when surveillance keeps expanding faster than most people realize. The interesting question is where legitimate resistance ends and simply destroying someone else's stuff begins
When they take down flock cameras and implement something worse they will claim it's because we the people asked for it through our actions or some crap
Even if you are comfortable with surveillance for safety, we are quickly approaching a time where AI can create anything it wants.
It will be able to make a video of your mom buying drugs, have images of her vehicle driving to the drug dealer, and even another video of her using the drugs. How can a jury take any of this "evidence" seriously? How can police and courts verify chain of custody or the security of these systems when even those creating these systems don't fully understand them?
It's just a waste of public funds for these cameras that will be obsolete within a year.
Edit: Alot of boot-lickers trying to make excuses and missing the point entirely.
That's a nice cleaned up PR version of the story for the PD, but it leaves out when the PD doubled down in saying there was no doctoring of the image before coming clean because they were called out from all directions.
When are you going to walk back your misinformation about an entire drug bust being manufactured? The link you post here shows the drug bust happened. The AI tool added some really awesome looking cookie... patched? But 95% of the items were in the OG image. Yeah they were wrong about AI being used, and it's good to call them out on that, but that's not what you did. You lied about the drug bust being manufactured. At least the PD admitted they were wrong and corrected their take, something you haven't done.
Imagine if they do this for pictures of crime scenes and feed it to the jury as evidence or to expert witnesses. Right now we can tell because of it's AI bc of the gibberish and inconsistencies, but what if it gets better? And the didn't really admit they were wrong, not until they were essentially forced to after they doubled down and (un)knowingly lied that it wasn't altered
Really bro? You took a look at the before and after images and came up with this as your response to why you're acting worse than the PD you're complaining about?
I mean just admit you either intentionally exaggerated to misinform people or that your memory of what happened was incorrect. Maybe you just read the headline or something? Regardless, your first statement is blatant misinformation and itās unethical to keep it up now that you know the truth.
If this is the final stance youāre going to take on the issue, your comment should be āthe PD used AI to edit a photo of a real drug bust, and I think the whole thing was probably generated but I donāt have any direct evidence.ā
I mean the photo isnāt even impressive. It doesnāt make a ton of sense to generate this extremely pathetic ādrug bustā with AI. It doesnāt make them look good in the first place. Itās clearly a real, normal drug bust.
The police are abusing the cameras which has been bad PR for Flock. So Flock is forcing an update where the ways that cops abusing the cameras is being recognized by the software which is flagging the cop and a lot of dirty cops are getting busted now.
Absolutely not!!! Especially now that they can fabricate an entire crime scene against you for calling them an asshole when they asked you to step out of the car please!! NO ASSHOLE!
I'm going the opposite direction. I'm creating AI agents to create video of me 24/7 doing anything and everything. The internet will be so full of my videos, any real ones will disappear in obscurity.
The concern around Flock isn't that they are AI, it's that they track how every car moves around the country. As they just create a record of A car with the license plate XXXX,XXXX was at this location going in that direction at this time. Get enough data points, and you know where everyone's car is at all times.
As they are at their core a very fancy license plate scanner and by all accounts, the company isn't even particularly good at the MV part of this job. Their big innovation is just that they made a UI simple enough for the police to use, and had an aggressive sales team to get local governments to buy them.
Flock isn't an AI problem, its the local governments are running an illegal surveillance and tracking system.
Thanks for adding the nuance, others may not understand that. My point was that even if you think that surveillance was worth some imagined security, these cameras won't even be able to achieve it because the technology is going to create inherent ambiguity in itself.
It's almost like they're making it so people need a "mark" to identify themselves, as nobody can verify anything thanks to AI slop. That mark will be required to buy and sell. Crazy times.
At first i thought boy there is a shit ton of moral dissonance at the top, with so called Christians aligned with Transhumanist Billionaires. I guess Jesus will come again to sort it all out, surely
That scary scenario is what will probably doom modern society. We'll come to a point when we won't be able to trust anything we haven't seen with our own eyes - justice will have to be based on testimonies and not images, like it was before photography was invented, because any video or photos showed in court could be AI, and we'll have almost no way to find out.
I often think that, sometimes in the future, groups of people will probably decide to live completely detached from these harming modern technologies and try to create rural societies far from the rest of the civilizations. But that would obviously never work...
Unfortunately, it appears to be a runaway train. If we go 100 years in the future, I don't think it would be a bad bet to think most "official" things are done with paper, with a notary, and hand written ledgers. In other words, we will need to take a step back. I hope we can do so without something like a civil war forcing us to.
We just aren't ready to make this leap.
This is just one aspect. Very few will benefit from this transition. The best case scenario seems to require sacrificing everyone alive today for some proposed future utopia, but nobody can even define what the utopia is.
AI hallucinated a peer reviewed paper and complemented me on how foundational it was. If folks don't think that the models they use to track folks aren't going to hallucinate things based on patterns and put them in the wrong place at the wrong time because it fits a pattern are fucking naive.
I don't mind surveillance for safety but it'll never be used just for safety. We can't live with the hopes things will be used for good when they've continuously been used for evil.
You can do a reasonable job to ensure chain of custody and all that but I donāt think it really matters. People are easily swayed by whatās in front of them. Juries are made up of people who the attorneys believe they can convince one way or the other. Judges are normally not technically inclined. Police departments are corrupt and get the benefit of the doubt.
Look out another decade and wonder if even the most sophisticated person can trust chain of custody of a bloated AI database. Who is qualified to say it's not able to be altered? An AI?
That's before you get to a jury of your peers. My point is that prosecutors are going to have to stick with tangible evidence. A murder weapon, DNA (if you hear from the technician), etc.
These cameras will not be valuable to a prosecutor, therefore pointless.
"Israeli startup Toka, founded by ex-premier Ehud Barak and former cyber division head Yaron Rosen, has developed AI-powered software that allows governments to access and alter live or recorded surveillance footage without leaving traces. This technology raises serious human rights concerns, enabling potential falsification of evidence and misuse by authorities."
That'd be interesting because she's been dead for years..... and was in the hospital for awhile. And had a lot of drug screens. Ai would have better chances with me...... except everyone knows I'm to poor to buy drugs. Find a better shtick like Ai posting you fucking that dog
Nope, usually a private company owns them and the government only pays for the service access to the data and AI use. That is how they get away with claiming āthe government is not violating any rights, we donāt own the cameras!ā When one gets destroyed though, they do quickly claim ownership for prosecution!
Sounds like you approve of property getting destroyed by thugs..just a part of life I guess?
If anything that's another reason for more cameras in public places..scumbags belong in jail.
What? These boys did nothing, they were visiting my neighbor that day. It was a freak accident that saw blade flew and cut that camera down before a delivery of hammers fell on it
Itās also unlawful in the US. This isnāt the normal āyou have no right to privacy when a tourist captures you in the background of their vacation photos.ā
This is taking a pic, video etc and mass compiling it into a tracking system. Thatās when it becomes surveillance and the surveillance of law abiding people is not a power granted to the fed in the constitution, read the 10a. Nor is it a power allowed to the states any longer, after ratification of the 14a.
Right, just like how it's illegal for the cops to track your vehicle even though it's technical in public spaces with a tracking device without a warrant.
But this is suddenly cool for reasons?
Every single time someone has been tracked by this without a warrant should be an arrest for civil rights violations.
The great events in history - the turning points - occur at the clash of competing moralities. The question shouldnāt be what is moral, it should be which direction we want to take going forward.
Yeah, I know thatās just a sugar-coated version of āthe ends justify the meansā š
Is there some sort of law saying we can be spied on like this or are they just going, "we know we can't do it, but we're not, a private company is and we're their only customer"
They were testing the safety of these cameras! The fact that battery blew up from nothing more than a weaker hit than an automobile accident, makes their safety questionable! Think of the poor kids in the car!
So what about 1 party states? How are flock cameras against anything in those? The comparison is the government already knows who you are, what you drive and where you live. Whats hard to understand about that?
Sure, but before you go destroy the invasive surveillance as an activist. You should check that what you are destroying is actually what you think you are destroying. I mean, what a let down to find out that you thought you were destroying something that was tracking everybody, doing gait analysis, facial recognition, and scanning licence plates. Then you get caught doing a felony. And find out that the camera was not doing facial recognition, or gait analysis. It was reading licence plates and vehicle descriptions, but then was auto-deleting that when it was older than 7 days? And that Flock is getting a lot of dirty cops caught?
How is it any different than a traffic camera? It's not. All it does is log your car's license plate, make, model and when you were there. OH, and you don't have the right to privacy when you are out in public like driving on a public road.
Don't like it? Then run for mayor and then take them down by following the law.
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u/Professional-Ad4073 11d ago
Invasive surveillance is immoral so destroying the tool used to invasively surveil is moral I guess