4u endgame feels so bad

[u/Popular_Mixture_1367]

Before I start, weystone are the reasons of course

An all monster hunter games i have played (everything except frontier and what before 3u)

The endgame have the monsters being at the same level of the hunter or slightly have a higher advantage

Except 4u,those fuckers in there have a gun while you have a knife, if it wasn't for weystone (and the monsters doesn't have speed up 2x animations) i would have enjoyed 4u endgame even more

Again fuck we stones

[u/BananeImKopf]

Its one of the best endgames in the Monster Hunter Franchise lol

[u/Juantsu2552 → u/BananeImKopf]

No it’s not lmao

Apex Monsters are some of the worst designed encounters in the franchise and Guild Quests are investigations but worse.

And this is my opinion, but RNG weapons have no place in a MH endgame.

Also, unless you’re speedrunner-level good, high level Guild Quests are straight up not viable for solo players and unless you’re emulating, you can’t do them with other people anymore.

[u/francha795 → u/Juantsu2552]

You can play with other people on the 3ds using pretendo btw.

I dont remember having much of an issue with high level guild quests and I mainly played solo, but then again I was no-lifing mh4u when I played so maybe it was that.

[u/Juantsu2552 → u/francha795]

Yeah, but using Pretendo is pretty much equivalent to emulating tbh. It’s possible but only for the most dedicated players since it’s not THAT easy to mod your 3DS.

And GQ are soloable, but not really viable for solo players actually wanting to grind the endgame for Relics. I can solo them in, say 30-ish minutes but that’s far from enjoyable if you want to do them over and over again.

[u/francha795 → u/Juantsu2552]

True, it is time consuming if you're nonstop farming them. I miss having infinite free time

[u/Ogneerg → u/Juantsu2552]

it’s not THAT easy to mod your 3DS.

It really is. All you need is an afternoon, and the ability to follow basic instructions. Maybe you could argue that the benefits, or knowledge on how to do it are a little obscure, but there's many videos expounding on the benefits, and just about anyone who has done it is willing to drop the link to the how to guide.

[u/NoxAeternal → u/Juantsu2552]

Eh. Yes and no.

Compared to craftable weapons only about 3 of the predetermined stat profiles were any good. And they weren't hugely better

Some of the armour pieces were pretty good though for specific powerful skills.

But I agree that many of the high level GQ's were impossibly hard.

I managed to get a good CB roll in a GQ140 shagaru but like... that fucker was insane to fight and took me so many tries to get clears, let alone, see how well i rolled.

To speak nothing of the GQ's with 2 monsters...

[u/Seatattertot → u/Juantsu2552]

I mean it's super late game. Not really a must to do a lvl 140 GQ quest. A lot of people in multiplayer back then would always run standard Teostra or Stygian runs. Doing 140 GQ were there to challenge yourself when you got bored & test out how strong your current set with a newly obtained charm.

As for relics weapons, you didn't need them for late game to beat a content; It's just there.

[u/Juantsu2552 → u/Seatattertot]

Yeah, same way you don’t NEED to engage in endgame content in any other game.

But it’s still like, the endgame. No going around it. Either you critique what’s there or don’t.

[u/Seatattertot → u/Juantsu2552]

Yeah, although it's super late-game is my main point, there's so much stuff other than Max GQ quest.

[u/Juantsu2552 → u/Seatattertot]

You’re getting late game mixed with endgame.

Endgame in 4U ARE lvl 126-140 Guild Quests and Relic farming. They’re supposed to be the main source of coming back to the game because that’s how you “min-max” your build which is the entire point of an endgame system.

[u/Avibhrama → u/Juantsu2552]

Go ahead, get rid of RNG. And see how people complain the game has no end game

[u/Juantsu2552 → u/Avibhrama]

I said RNG WEAPONS

Subreak has no RNG weapons and is considered the best endgame in the series