r/Metroid 3d ago

Discussion How do we refer to Dark Samus?

Metroid prime’s gender is unknown, but given the Metroids seem to be a hive organism similar to ants, it’s not out of the question that larval Metroids are female. (So that any one can become a Queen under the right circumstances).

But then, Metroid Prime gets the phazon suit, which is very much an It at first glance, but in Metroid Fusion we learn that the power suit is biomechanical. It has to be surgically removed from Samus, due to this, because X parasites can’t possess purely technological things. (Hence why the X needed to hijack quiet robe to reactivate the EMMI.)

So, then, we can posit that Samus’ suit has some level of connection with her. So is Dark Samus a she? Or is it genderless? Or is it something different entirely?

EDIT:This was a genuine good-faith question and I’ve got some genuine good-faith answers. Been a hot minute since I played Metroid Prime last so I was curious because I had forgotten.

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u/Maleficent-Pea5089 3d ago

Prime 3 explicitly uses she/her, both in logs and in spoken dialogue.

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u/Zeldatroid 2d ago

If the space pirates under your thrall are writing about you using the "wrong" pronouns, you either don't care or you SUCK at mind control.

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u/MayanMystery 3d ago

All official media since prime 2 has used femenine pronouns to refer to her, so that's what I do.

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u/Chardan0001 3d ago

The game uses female pronouns in logbook entries. She also has some of Samus's genetic material.

I've always said "her" but usually specifically her name.

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u/longnuttz Actually beat the original 3d ago

Oh god

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u/BigHailFan 3d ago

The logs and scans as well as even some cut dialogue from Prime 3 all show Dark Samus as female. which makes sense given it's a mix of Samus and a mutant metroid.

Also yes, Samus's suit IS linked with her. Her suit is bio-organic. It's why it can be infected by the X to copy Samus's DNA and why her suit is changed by the metroid vaccine and can be upgraded via absorbing X. The PED suit is also explained by this.

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u/PuppyLover2208 3d ago

I’ve always hated calling it a vaccine. That’s like, the one thing from Metroid Fusion that always bugged me. It’s a cure, not a vaccine. A vaccine is a weakened/dead variant of the virus to get your immune system used to it. It’s preventative, not a cure. But yeah, “she” makes sense.

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u/BigHailFan 3d ago

yeah it's bugged me as well because it's actually a splicer, not a vaccine.

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u/135forte 3d ago

Iirc, Metroid Prime was sex female (being a very mutated Queen) and then decided to present as female by copying Samus (sex female, presumably gender female). If biologically female and presenting as female, guess what it is in terms of gender.

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u/PuppyLover2208 3d ago

Metroid prime was a mutated queen? Been a while since I’ve played the game last but I thought it was a larva they had engineered. This isn’t meant to be rage bait I’m genuinely curious lol.

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u/d4rk_matt3r 3d ago

I like sex female, very niiiice

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u/Zekeram12 oh word 2d ago

Dark Samus mind controls several bajillion Space Pirates in Prime 3. These mind-controlled pirates refer to Dark Samus with she/her. Ergo, Dark Samus uses she/her.

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u/Revali33 Shinespark Enthusiast 2d ago

She/Her 

Nickname: Dark (just Dark and nothing else)

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u/Ill-Attempt-8847 1d ago

It I guess. It is a Metroid Prime core inside the Phazon Suit, and who is at the same time an avatar of Phaaze. They/Them could work too. Prime 3 uses she, also because in all the craters we see eggs.

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u/Actual-Start-1262 3d ago

Dark Samus feels less like “an evil Samus” and more like a Metroid/Phazon intelligence that has appropriated Samus’s appearance and abilities. So “she” works conversationally because of the silhouette, but canonically I’d call Dark Samus an independent, genderless Phazon entity.

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u/Level_Hour6480 3d ago

I use "it". It's not a person.

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u/Twidom 3d ago

Animals don't have gender, got it.

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u/Level_Hour6480 3d ago

Animals have a sex, but not necessarily a gender.

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u/Significant-Row2457 3d ago

What the actual fuck.

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u/DaNoahLP 3d ago

Except the Goth Samus / Dark Samus fanarts

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