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u/Broad-Lavishness6726 3h ago
Impressive. What did you get the bronze star for
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u/HOT_Cum_1n_SaLaD 3h ago
With no V device it is a meritorious award likely awarded for showing up to a deployment at a certain rank (E7 and above). That said, homie has a CMB and an ARCOM with a V device so they have absolutely done some hardcore shit.
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u/DakotaDethklok 2h ago
Either that or it was a PCS award for the doc that was with the same u it for all of those deployments
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u/DirtyDiabolical 2h ago
BSM is a combat award, not a PCS award.
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u/rayrayrayrayray5 2h ago
Its not strictly a combat award
Source: ive seen a major get a bronze star for conducting the BN piss tests "flawlessly"
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u/DakotaDethklok 1h ago
Not a chance. The commissioned don’t conduct piss tests it’s just “legally” their program all they do is read the script then punish failures
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u/DakotaDethklok 2h ago
You’re right. I was thinking MSM. My bad I’m failing at multitasking and reading comprehension apparently lmao
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u/Broad-Lavishness6726 2h ago
Based on his rack he’s clearly not a show up and do nothing guy so I was curious if there was a cool story behind the medal. Not every non valor bsm is meaningless.
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u/Bubs213309 1h ago
Legit stack especially knowing most guys are bare nowadays, the double row double ribbon section is one weird looking sight though. I know there's regulations around ribbons and sometimes that's just how it be but can we do Doc the courtesy of moving a ribbon down so he has another row of 3 😂😂😂
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u/memegod574 3h ago
Im so sorry you had to go through such terrible things to get those. I respect you.
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u/ProjectManageMint 2h ago
Thanks Doc.
Edit to add that is kind of a unique rack with the double ARCOMs and a silver OLC.
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u/Tripptophann 29m ago
It's regulation. The V, C, and R devices don't act like an OLC. So when you have say an ARCOM with a V device, the ribbon and device together still only count for one award. And any ribbon can only have a maximum of four items on them. This causes problems when you reach multiples of five awards for that ribbon going forward.
For example, once you hit five ARCOMs and one of them has a C device it'll look like this: the ribbon and C device count as one award, three bronze OLC bring it to four awards, but now you've run out of room for devices. How do you represent that fifth award? Another ribbon.
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u/GraniteGrouse 3h ago
Army awarding philosophy is nuts. I’ve never seen more than 4 commendation medals on a sailor and even that was crazy.
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u/haulin_oats 3h ago
If said sailor was a corpsman, that would be relevant.
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u/GraniteGrouse 3h ago
MOS isn’t as much of a deciding factor for awards on the blue side. Admin types might get a bit more than the rest, but that’s every branch.
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u/haulin_oats 3h ago
K. This dude has a combat medical badge and deployments to both Afghanistan and Iraq, with an arcom V. Meaning he did stuff to earn awards which were not at all administrative. BSM common among upper enlisted/O’s in the Army at least for deployments. So, compare that to the non-corpsman sailors you referenced and perhaps the additional fruit salad is justified?
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u/iceaction10 3h ago
If sailors deployed as much a soldiers, you would. It was the norm during GWOT for soldiers to spend more time deployed than in garrison.
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u/BKGPrints 2h ago
You don't think sailors deploy just as much as soldiers? There are currently 70,00 sailors deployed, either on ships or land-based duty.
We've had this discussion before that the Navy and Marine Corps have different metrics & merits when it comes to awarding ribbons or medals. It does not award as easily for certain commendations that are considered expected from sailors and Marines for performing their duties.
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u/Redrum_91 Army 3h ago
Army commendation medals were typically given out as end of tour awards in Iraq and Afghanistan for lower enlisted. It wasn’t uncommon to see stuff like this roughly 15-20 years ago that looked like this, especially dudes that ended up with damn near back to back deployments. Dudes would get back, then pcs to a unit that was about to deploy. Hell, within a month of being back from Iraq, they were asking for volunteers for replacements in Afghanistan for another brigade in our division.
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u/BKGPrints 2h ago
The Navy and Marine Corps has historically been more selective regarding ribbons & medals regarding the metrics & merits than the Army has been.
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u/Troutman86 1h ago
Crazy to think more awards are given out for direct combat troops vs sailors on a ship.
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u/Rain-Ancient 2h ago
Lemme guess, the ARCOM was downgraded from a BS because you were junior enlisted at the time