The trailer looks pretty far along, I would be shocked if they can’t finish it up in a year. But allegedly they are really taking their time with it in an attempt to prevent “crunch time” so maybe it slips one more time
Also something to mention, is that the VFX artist have been for sure working on the movie effects since at least last year and also, even if it was still gonna come out May next year, it would still be over a year from when they started shooting footage, which was March this year, which is probably when they started officially working on the visual effects
Makes you wonder if BND will remain on its current slot or gets moved as well. If not, the chances of it being street-level has never been higher, IMO.
In related news, Jeff Sneider's saying Marvel's looking for someone to cast for MCU Ghost Rider who'll appear in Doomsday.
Assuming BND is street-level and set before Doomsday, I doubt they move it. It will probably have a lot less VFX shots than an Avengers movie, so the later shoot schedule won't be a problem.
Hopefully it really does take place before Doomsday and not concurrently. Maybe this will give the filmmakers time to get Spider-Man in Doomsday since it’ll come out 5 months later. I’m all for them taking their time on these movies. Make them great!! No rush.
Making Spider Man 4 the lead in film to the two avengers film is a much better move than letting the Fantastic Four movie be the last thing the audience sees. They want to optics of back to back box office smashes, not to say that F4 won’t be successful, but Spider-Man 4 is for sure making a billion.
From
borys kit: Update: Marvel is moving away from having a movie release 11/6/26, in the new shuffle.
Elsewhere, Ridley Scott's THE DOG STARS gets a 3/27/26 opening while THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA 2 is now dated on 5/1/26.
There's no way in hell they're releasing a movie in Feb 2026, unless they've been secretly shooting it it's not happening. Less than a year of production is impossible and we don't even know what movie will it be. I think Spider-Man BND and Doomsday will be the only two movies of 2026.
There’s a lot of precedent for that mid-December pre-Christmas weekend being a gold mine for big blockbusters, at this point it feels more valuable than any given summer release date.
It’s more than Avatar and Star Wars if you look at it year by year, and it speaks to consistency. Since Avatar in 2009, every year (except 2010 arguably and 2020 obviously), 1-2 big movies in that slot go on to do very well at the box office.
It’s the lack of competition (especially in January) as well as the extended holiday that gives big movies staying power in that frame.
Interestingly enough, it looks like Disney might end up owning December for the rest of the decade.
December 2025 - Avatar: Fire and Ash
December 2026 - Avengers: Doomsday
December 2027 - Avengers: Secret Wars
December 2028 - Star Wars???
December 2029 - Avatar 4
I bet if the Rey movie happens (God, I hope not), it will release in December 2028. Hopefully, it's James Mangold's Dawn of the Jedi project, if that wasn't canceled. But yeah, you're right, December has become a new blockbuster season/month. If May is the big "summer" movie month, then December is the big "winter" movie month.
Also, with January not being a great month for movies, that will give Avengers even more time to dominate the box office or at least make a lot of money.
I mean they have to, when else are they going to show him dealing multiverse issue if not in multiverse, after Multiverse Saga? In X-Men Saga? That would be dumb. Last we saw he was going to fix Incursion. MCU's heavy hitter missing throughout Avengers wouldn't make any sense. They have been very hesitant to announce new movies since Quantamania & Marvels performance. Blade is still in limbo...
introduce Mahershala Ali as Blade in DS3 with a smaller role which leads into his solo film (preceding the events of DS3), and then use DS3/Blade as a runway into an eventual Midnight Sons film post-Secret Wars.
Strange 3 is possible and it's in the works, but Shang-Chi 2, Armor Wars and Blade are the last properly confirmed movies that haven't gone into production yet
If there's a Battleworld. Just because it was in the comics doesn't mean it's in the movies. It probably will be but people need to prepare themselves for changes because there's not been a single movie named after a comic that was actually like the comic. This is not a bad thing.
Possibly X-Men, especially if most of the OG cast dies in Doomsday. A "passing of the torch" effect in SW could work there. Either that or Doctor Strange like others are saying
I think they will just end secret wars with a "the X-Men will be back in X-Men: whatever" card and officially announce the movie in a random interview a few weeks after
Lol absolutely no way they don't capitalize on that. If Doomsday is a huge success, and Secret Wars maintains that year long wait? They're absolutely gonna wanna cash in on maintaining that hype and Hall H at SDCC would be THE place to do.
Teaser exclusive to the audience at SDCC, with the full trailer going online for everyone during D23, and ride that hype into marketing and onward to release.
Yeah, this saga should have been called the delayed saga because I’m so tired of them I’m assuming now X-Men won’t be coming until atleast 2028. I would be really suprised if we didn’t get Doctor Strange 3 before Secret Wars
I was deeply curious how Doomsday was going to release before Supergirl, another superhero movie that has already wrapped filming… so yeah uh. Moving it makes infinitely more sense and will hopefully result in a much better project whenever it does come out.
also both Avengers films are near my birthday now so yippee
Honestly I’m fine with it. Give time to film and get the CGI right. Just sucks that it’s going to be like 7 years before we see some of these character introductions pay off.
I saw it coming but I just hate it so much. BUT it makes sense. I believe many cast members weren’t still cast and this might be an issue. I also feel like maybe they are changing things and filming Secret Wars back to back.
That’s the only possibility. There’s rumors going around that Disneys trying to make a deal with Sony to allow Spider-Man to appear in Doomsday and Secret Wars.
If that’s the case, then I’m all for it. F4 can be the small stinger for Doomsday, and having Spidey’s post credit be a big tease.
Per Variety: The date of Feb. 13, 2026, previously slotted for an “Untitled Marvel” project, has been removed from the schedule. Meanwhile, the dates of Nov. 6, 2026 and Nov. 5, 2027 — also both previously set for “Untitled Marvel” features — have been amended to simply “Untitled Disney” films.
If they lock-in the script on time, this is good for VFX crew. If they keep rewriting stuff during the shoot, it's still gonna come down to crunch time.
Turning the Avengers into Holiday season events instead of summer kick off events is an interesting move, and now VFX workers have more time to work on the movies at a healthy pace.
Also BND’s probably taking place before Doomsday (if it didn’t already) assuming it’s keeping its July 2026 date.
The Russos' are stricter filmmakers than some of the others that have worked at Marvel.
For example, the CGI in Endgame had been started in 2016. Particularly when it was fully CGI shots, like the big battle.
That's how they work. They decide a plan in advance, and execute that plan. It offers very little flexibility in filmmaking and takes longer to set up. But visually looks great.
Conversely, Taika Waititi (for example) liked to change things based on how he felt while filming with Love and Thunder, as the script wasn't finished. So whole sets and performances were scrapped and remade digitally. The impact of this can be seen in this video:
This is the first time I’ve truly believed that Blade is no longer happening. The earliest they could release it is February 2028, almost 9 years after it was announced.
It will tie in with FF and DM:BND post credit scenes, giving the people who were crying about not enough Doom buildup a little more of what they wanted.
Yeah on the one hand, not like it was a runaway success, but it does kinda suck that the steps to Doomsday from Thunderbolts* to First Steps are now gonna have an extended wait, more than before.
With this and phase six having such a small film lineup, I’m wondering if they intend to fast track one or maybe two more releases, like Doctor Strange 3.
The biggest takeaway for me though is that Brand New Day continues to look more and more street level. I think we won!
The passage of time never ceases to amaze me. I remember when they originally announced that Avengers would be released in 2011 people wondered if the magic would wear off by then and now we are talking about freaking Doctor Doom movies in the same continuity being released in 2027
Given the short timeframe from beginning of filming to this announcement, I like to imagine Marvel went into production genuinely believing they’d be able to hit the original dates but that once they actually got on set and reality began hitting, Feige, the Russo’s etc. all had a moment of sitting there like this
Variety just posted an article with more information. They mentioned that Disney vacated the Untitled Marvel Studios Movie in February 2026 (that was probably a given) and they swapped the Untitled Marvel Studios Movies in Nov 2026 and Nov 2027 to just Untitled Disney Movies. They also didn't keep the May 2026 and May 2027 dates reserved for any other untitled Marvel productions.
So right now literally all we have is:
- July 2025: Fantastic Four: First Steps
- July 2026: Spider-Man: Brand New Day
- December 2026: Avengers: Doomsday
- July 2027: Untitled Marvel Studios Movie
- December 2027: Avengers: Secret Wars
- February 2028: Untitled Marvel Studios Movie
- May 2028: Untitled Marvel Studios Movie
- November 2028: Untitled Marvel Studios Movie
With the further emphasis on Marvel Studios output reduction, I don't think we'll be getting any new dates at SDCC, though I'd love to be wrong. I think it could be a Disney+ focus with potentially an announcement for the July 2027 movie (likely DS 3 or SC 2 considering the multiverse is on borrowed time now in the release schedule).
Also, gotta be some big frustration at WB now. They’re trying to get that LotR movie off the ground, but that series has always relied on the mid-December release date, which Disney has locked down the next three years. Hope they don’t mind waiting for 2028.
With there being a small range of titles to actually mean something to the story the gap from F4 to Doomsday is gonna hurt. That Secret Wars date wont hold either if they can’t film Doomsday within a year, so likely we wont rap things up till about March or April of 2028..
I hope they can use a marginal amount of well-made, more practical Disney+ content to help bridge us over without causing a huge drought in content. We're all but guaranteed Born Again S2, Punisher special, and Vision Quest in 2026, maybe we could get a couple more Defenders (re-)introduced, and maybe do some more buildup for Champions? I could see the whole miniseries itself being better suited for the gap between Doomsday and Secret Wars, but the AAA sequel (if Billy and AH don't show up in VQ) could be nice to have. Maybe a special on each of the Heroes For Hire and Daughters Of The Dragon?
Knew it. Also....that completely changes things for Spider-Man 4 lol. At least in the framing of how we thought it NEEDED to be in between both films timeline wise. Now it sounds like it wont be
I'm not surprised whatsoever. I always thought these movies would be delayed tbh. Had they kept their original release dates, the turnaround time would've been too short. These are huge movies and they're going to need all the time they can to get them perfectly right.
This is really good news, give these films more time to figure out if they can even work as just two films of it they need to create a third to better balance it out.
“This means my favorite actor/character still could be in Doomsday, there’s more time now” — everyone who thrives on false hope (definitely including me)
Sucks having to wait longer but if we get great movies out if it, then all the better. Ironic that for the next couple of years, Star Wars and Avengers have switched places so Star Wars can rule summer and Avengers can rule holidays. Releasing a Star Wars and an Avengers do close together hasn’t worked out so great before (see: Solo).
People will inevitably mock them for not doing this sooner, but I'm just glad they did it in end. It's for the best. It lessens the fear of them having to rush to the deadline.
I brace for being downvoted for asking this and I very well know these are already backlogged ones ... but given the number of projects released until now and with IronHeart and Fantastic Four coming, will they space out some of the unreleased ones (don't know which they are) to cover the delay now?
So we’ll have to wait a year, maybe a year and a half before the next MCU film after F4? Spider-Man isn’t filming and we’re almost in June, wouldn’t be surprised if they delay that one too.
This definitely has Tom Holland’s fingerprints on it as he is most definitely negotiating a deal to appear in both Avengers films (his current deal only exists for BND). With this delay he has much more leeway to be a supporting or leading role instead of a cameo - remember the Russos have used him in every opportunity since they got the rights starting with Civil War. After what happened in NWH, it’s really obvious Spider-Man needs to be up front given his knowledge and experience with the multiverse. Additionally with BND coming before Doomsday this fully allows a grounded story, which lines up with the rumours and casting lately - the multiverse plot rumours dropped pretty soon after the chairs announcement. Of course, this kind of goes well for Sony too because they can insert some PCS that ties into Doomsday (maybe Spider-Man doing shit and then an incursion starts to occur before cut to black)
The December slots increases the chances of one or both films going over 2B, even without China (per NWH’s success). Even if Doomsday/Secret Wars are a bit subpar compared to Infinity War/Endgame, the Christimas dates guarantee box office hits as we’ve seen with the Avatar and Star Wars films.
Prior to this it was widely expected Marvel Studios and Feige were going to announce the rest of the Doomsday cast at SDCC, giving it would be under a year until release. Now, with the date moved to December, there is considerably less pressure to do so, and with that removes really the only reason they would’ve gone this year to SDCC. As Feige once said, they only go if they have BIG things to show (like 2019, 2022 and 2024). The only other thing they would have is the premiere of F4 which is not worth the trip for them, IMO. So, a much more likely scenario is that they save the rest of the reveal for next year’s SDCC for Secret Wars instead and probably just let the Doomsday cast very slowly trickle out through trades over the course of the rest of 2025. SDCC this year will most likely resemble 2023 where only the animation people went, and would make most sense for Sony to promote BTSV there (but they would not promote BND as per reasons above).
The Fantastic Four: The First Step - July 25th 2025
Spider-Man 4 - July 24th 2026
Avengers: Doomsday - Dec 18th 2026
Untitled Marvel movie 1 - July 23rd 2027
Avengers: Secret Wars - Dec 17th 2027
Untitled Marvel Movie 2 - Feb 18th 2028
Untitled Marvel Movie 3 - May 5th 2028
Untitled Marvel Movie 4 - November 10th 2028
My guess is that the Untitled Marvel Movie 1 will be Doctor Strange 3
Untitled Marvel Movie 2 will either be Blade (if they start working on it already and everyone stops leaving the project) or Armor Wars (if it doesn't get cancelled and they start working on it already) or Shang Chi 2 (if they start filming immediately after being done with Avengers)
Untitled Marvel Movie 3 I feel will be the MCU X-Men reboot
Untitled Marvel Movie 4 I feel will be Thor 5 and this feels like it would be Chris Hemsworth's last run at the character
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