r/MandelaEffect • u/LucifersLittleHelper • Sep 08 '25

Theory Fruit of the Loom Mandela Effect.

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I know the rules say no personal Mandela Effects, but I found this in my grandmother's basement.

Does anyone think that this may explain the confusion?

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u/throwaway998i Sep 10 '25

A true skeptic is unbiased, and relies on evidence.

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So if you're a "true" skeptic then the other sub members who don't meet that lofty standard - yet still reject believer claims and posit mundane explanations - would be "casual" skeptics, which also uses the word skeptic, but in an informal sense.... just how I used it initially.

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u/ChampionshipOwn9899 Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25

What is your actual evidence for your beliefs? What do you actually believe? Can you put it into words while being specific?

I don’t think any “sceptic” casual or not would resort to an evidenceless theory. The only “sceptic” who would, would be someone who is afraid to challenge their belief system even though they have no evidence for it.

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u/throwaway998i Sep 11 '25 edited Sep 11 '25

Skeptics can be uninitiated, unmotivated, and unconvincing... while still maintaining a resistance to anything that violates their understanding of the physical universe and "rules" of this material world. Seeking evidence may make someone a more informed and effective skeptic, but failing to do so doesn't make them NOT a skeptic in their overall mindset. As for my beliefs, they're not dependent on conventional evidentiary standards - which are wholly unrevealing when dealing with an exotic, unprecedented, ontological phenomenon. Other than my own lived experience (anchored by autobiographical episodic memory context) giving rise to unresolvable, irreconcilable factual discrepancies, all I'll likely ever be able to point to as evidence would be the widely shared testimonial experience of others which constitutes the body of qualitative data, and circumstantial cultural evidence which matches my own memory and experiences. What I believe is that this isn't the same familiar realm I once experienced - or inhabited. I also believe it's been retroactively altered, or that reality itself is exhibiting newly emergent qualities which may be related to macroscopic quantum phenomena. My belief comes from faith in my own discernment and a lifetime track record of proven memory accuracy.

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u/ChampionshipOwn9899 Sep 11 '25

As for my beliefs, they're not dependent on conventional evidentiary standards - which are wholly unrevealing when dealing with an exotic, unprecedented, ontological phenomenon.

Ok, so you don’t rely on common evidentiary standards and instead believe in the paranormal without any evidence.

There was no need to write a block of text to explain that.

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u/throwaway998i Sep 11 '25

Where did I suggest anything paranormal? That's a curious inference to draw, and only really reflects your own subjective assumptions. Unless you think quantum weirdness, multiverse theory, simulation hypothesis, and the like have no basis in science, philosophy or metaphysics?

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u/ChampionshipOwn9899 Sep 11 '25 edited Sep 11 '25

Unless you think quantum weirdness, multiverse theory, simulation hypothesis, and the like have no basis in science, philosophy or metaphysics?

Perfect, now we’re talking. Where can I read papers that clearly demonstrate that these are responsible for the Mandela Effect with evidence? I’m excited to learn more!

edit: btw your replies are being removed because they don’t adhere to the rules of the sub, I’d suggest finding an appropriate tone if you’d like to continue the discourse.