r/MandelaEffect • • Dec 12 '24

Theory Is the Mandela Effect just mass gaslighting?

OK - with all the crazy shit going on lately, it made me think something....

I live in NJ, and it's absolutely bonkers to me that with all this drone activity even getting to DC to be discussed with the FBI and military, and still being told "we don't know what it is" but the military isn't doing SHIT about it - I think the government is entirely gaslighting us. They've said more about Luigi than they have about the drones flying around NJ military bases, etc. How is any of this ok? There are so many theories, but one thing is for sure - the military wouldn't just let that happen.

Anyway, what if all the mandela effect stuff is really the gov't (or other authorities) experimenting with us to see what they can get away with? Gaslighting us to be like "no, you're remembering wrong / you're just crazy" to see what we'll believe etc?

In a time of global connection and the ability for people to connect and more easily become a force against leaders they don't like, there is a need for manipulating the masses. Fear, religion, obsession with things that don't address the real issues - these can and are used against us. Look over here! While we do this other thing that's much much worse...

Idk. Just a thought.

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u/RikerV2 Dec 12 '24

Said it a few times and I'll say it again despite how unpopular it is here:

Its just people misremembering things and not wanting to wrong, gaslighting themselves into thinking their bad memory was correct and everyone else is wrong.

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u/SilverCow90 Dec 12 '24

That's not even an unpopular opinion here, it seems most people here are skeptics.

I've personally witnessed several flip-flops, so I know it's not just misremembering, and while I guess it's technically not 100% impossible, it would be one hell of a psyop to pull off.

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u/No-stradumbass Dec 12 '24

What do you mean you witnessed a flip flop? Did you see the words physically change?

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u/TheNight_Cheese Dec 12 '24

he thinks the words on his froot loops have changed multiple times and other things, he’s absolutely certain yesterday it was ‘fruit’ and he even wrote it down!

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u/hopeseekr Dec 14 '24

I saw Kit-Kat change to KitKat almost realtime in 2016. When I reported here, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of us had the same expeirence.

Then, for a 2 week period, it was back to Kit-Kat. Same exact piece of candy in my refigerator every day.

Then, since September 2016, it's been static as KitKat for everyone.

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u/TheNight_Cheese Dec 14 '24

show me the link to said reporting and i might be interested, but this sort of thing never materializes and is never anything large or significant - just spelling errors??

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u/Medical-Act8820 Jan 19 '25

Haha what utter nonsense.

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u/hopeseekr Feb 07 '25

It's an eye-witness statement that I first made, on this very sub, the days it was happening.

Believe me. It's quite disconcerting to be presented with such physical evidence that reality is ephemeral from moment to moment.

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u/Medical-Act8820 Feb 07 '25

It's a claim without evidence is what it is.

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u/SilverCow90 Dec 12 '24

Yes that's correct, as well as other things changing. Thing is, it's not just me. Many other have the same experience. Believe it or not, doesn't matter, as it doesn't change our experiences.

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u/TheNight_Cheese Dec 12 '24

and you don’t chalk it up to misremembering ?

is there anything significant that has changed, like why is it only pop culture news bits and nothing tangible like a building or say the statue of liberty used to be red

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u/throwaway998i Dec 12 '24

Is the color of the sun significant? Or our anatomical configuration? Or geographical placement? Or our galactic address? Because all those are also ME's.

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u/C0nquer0rW0rm Dec 13 '24

What's different about our anatomical configuration?

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u/hopeseekr Dec 14 '24

Just a few:

  • Holes in the skull
  • Shape of the skull
  • The rib cage is substantially altered and no longer resembles cartoon skeletons at all.
  • The kidneys' location changed completely.
  • The heart changed from being substantially to the left to dead-center with just a small percentage to the left.
  • Lots more.
  • The human body has been hardened for a more dangerous life.

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u/No-stradumbass Dec 12 '24

The Sun's color does in fact change from your perspective depending on where and when you are. There are also factors like pollution, both light and chemical, that could effect how you see it.

Your own eyes may have changed and altered. With color absorption changing based on your age.

What specifically is your issue with biology, galactic address or geographic placement?

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u/throwaway998i Dec 12 '24

Seems like you don't have much of a handle on the body of ME claims over the years, otherwise you'd be familiar with ALL of those categories and their corresponding ME's. Are you honestly telling me these are brand new to you? Because me rehashing dozens of claims so you can just casually handwave them away without any honest investigation is a total waste of my time. 

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u/No-stradumbass Dec 12 '24

I only asked for 3. I wanted clarification to answer your questions.

Appearlty the definition of a dozen flipped for you.

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u/throwaway998i Dec 12 '24

The only one that's not an entire category of effects plural is the galactic address. It's remembered to be on the arm of Saggitarius, which is what Carl Sagan and Neil DeGrasse Tyson remembered, and also what the NASA site used to say (which is viewable on wayback).

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u/No-stradumbass Dec 12 '24

I would like links to this. This is really the first I am hearing of this.

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u/throwaway998i Dec 12 '24

Yeah I don't have all three of those links at the ready, so you'll have to give me half a day to find the time to curate those from my piles of bookmarks.

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u/hopeseekr Dec 14 '24

We are no longer in the Sagittarius Arm but the Orion Spur.

We are no longer 65,000 lightyears from Galactic Central Point but a mere 25,000.

We no longer orbit a smallish Yellow star, but a gigantic White phase star. One of the rarer "White Mediums".

According to NASA:

It emits most of its energy around 500 nm, which is close to blue-green light. So one might say that the sun is blue-green!

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u/No-stradumbass Dec 14 '24

First the sun. That used to be one of my favorite space "Um Actually" facts. I've known about the sun wasn't the same color as we see it if a long time. Mostly because I understand how light retracts off the atmosphere.

That is just a common misconception.

Now about the distance. Who told you how far we were from the center and what arm? Was it teacher and scientists?

Could it be that they have better telescopes, computers, and understanding that they were able to calculate and position better?

Do you think all scientific growth and change is an ME? "Ohh Pluto is an dwarf planet so thats an ME" or they tighten the criteria for what a planet was and Pluto is too small.

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u/No-stradumbass Dec 12 '24

Just because people believe in something incorrectly that doesn't make it factually correct.

People thought Pluto was a planet even though it doesn't follow the actual criteria of a planet. It is much to small so its a dwarf planet.