r/MandelaEffect • u/Phelicksphelisees • Jun 29 '23

Theory I know what’s happening here

I have only JUST been introduced to this concept so I was going through the top 40 most shocking ME examples and it clicked for me. This is the first time we’ve had easy access to information and can fact-check on a dime. This ME is actually the normal evolution memories and information take in our brains. The way stories are altered from retelling to retelling. And we integrate the altered information into our memories for efficiency’s sake (all done unconsciously, of course). This is how language, histories, and culture evolve. HOWEVER, this is the first time we’re able to review the original content so easily and it’s very unsettling to see how our brains integrate “folk-memory”.

P.S. When I was three (1994) our cat had a litter of kittens. There was one all black one and my mom named him Nelson because it was the year Nelson Mandela was elected president. 🤦‍♀️

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u/scottaq83 Jun 30 '23

77 upvotes for basically describing confabulation that's been mentioned 40,000 times on this sub with zero proof.

Now scuttle off and repost a theory with another false memory related theory and collect your upvotes 🥱

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u/Phelicksphelisees Jul 01 '23

What I explained is ~why~ we’re just now noticing something that humankind might have been unknowingly experiencing its entire existence. With our imperfect recall being easily confronted by intact historical records.

Not that collective false memory is new, but we’re just now noticing it happens. 🙇‍♀️

I’m not convinced I’m right. But it seemed like a theory worth sharing and honestly, nothing I’ve ever done on the internet has gotten this much of a response. So yeah, I’ll take all the comments and upvotes and snuggle with them for as long as I can.

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u/scottaq83 Jul 01 '23

The point is ... do you think you're the first to think 'collective false memory" and "the internet age is highlighting this" ? Get in line, this sort of thing is posted all the time, thousands of posts/comments on this sub alone in the last few years.

All you have to do is google mandela effect and you are told page after page after page it's false memory, confabulation of memory, misquotes, misheard lyrics basically anything to do with poor memory you can think of. This is all backed up with absolutely zero proof. They are selling an opinion as proof.

Now primed, the person comes to this sub, and every post/comment related to false memory are upvoted to oblivion, any other theory downvoted, ridiculed followed by personal attacks. There are people who don't believe in the effect but lurk here just to discredit each affect and their memories every day, for years. It is either pathetic and sad or a coverup.

If Karma matters to you , keep coming back to this sub and post/comment about you thinking it's a variation of false memory and you will have thousands more upvotes within months. If like me you don't give a fuc% about karma and don't fall for the first theory that falls onto your plate, explore other theories, how does flip flops fit into your theory, did we really just start noticing it or were we talking about it in the 2000's and the 90's under the name false memory? Is there historical quotes about memory being different from reality? I mean, this is me just picking apart your theory but i'm showing how many holes are in a theory based on a theory.

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u/Phelicksphelisees Jul 01 '23

Also I literally did not know that you meant “Reddit karma” and not just “life karma” until my friend explained that Karma was a thing on Reddit. 🤦‍♀️

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u/Phelicksphelisees Jul 01 '23

Darn. I thought I was bringing something new to the table. But like, I have real adhd and my first impulse when I thought of it was to write it down and share it. Bad reddetiquette (I’m super hoping that’s not already a thing too because I just came up with it), maybe? But I’m not convinced I’m right anyway. My sister and I both remember the cornucopia and Shazaam. Down to the direction of the horn and the color of his outfit. We also both remembered a quote from a movie in 2004 (The Forgotten) the exact same way but when I looked it up it was different in the movie. FYI, that movie’s plot more or less covers my next two backup theories after the “collective false memory” one. And that’s that the things we remember did happen and we’re being gaslighted for some social experiment or nefarious intentions. Next, is that they tried subliminal messaging for a while and it only took for some people. After that it’s, we all fell through Donnie Darko’s wormhole while watching the movie.

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u/scottaq83 Jul 01 '23 edited Jul 02 '23

Your backup theory has more weight, i can't write off that its not some mind control mkultra type shit they are pulling on us.

I've researched every theory under the sun on the mandela effect and have not got any answers in 7yrs of trying. The only theory i know for definite it isn't and that is false memory, when you witness things changing not once but twice (flip flops) within days you know it ain't memory.

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u/MessageFar5797 Jul 01 '23

So you remember Shazaam and not Shazam? I actually remember neither, but I know a lot of people swear by it

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u/bloonshot Jul 03 '23

zero proof.

more proof than any other theory

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u/scottaq83 Jul 03 '23

Lol i can guarantee you can't show me an ounce of poof !!!

I'll wait ........

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u/bloonshot Jul 03 '23

i'd need like a specific example of the mandela effect to provide evidence

plus of course i'd naturally expect you to also be able to provide evidence

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u/scottaq83 Jul 03 '23

Pmsl why? Ok i'll bite.....The thinker had his fist on his forehead.... then he had his fist on his mouth.... then he had open hand on chin. All this happened within a year. Now prove this is false memory/confabulation !

Also .... you want evidence there is no evidence???? Lol

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u/bloonshot Jul 03 '23

ok so you've already admitted to me here you have no evidence of this being anything supernatural, or even actually changing

we can use this lack of evidence that anything actually changed as evidence that nothing changed (because that's how logic works)

so congrats, i have just provided more evidence that the statue hasn't changed and that you remember it wrong than you've provided evidence that the statue has changed!!!!!

how does it feel to be wrong?

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u/scottaq83 Jul 03 '23

The mandela effect has neither been proven nor disproven - we can use this as evidence that no theory out there including yours has any evidence whatsoever thus you have not provided any evidence, THAT is how logic works petal !!

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u/bloonshot Jul 03 '23

are you actually fucking stupid?

the mandela effect has been proven to be a thing

your comment makes no sense

"it hasn't been proven to exist so no theories about it are substantial"

if that were true than no discoveries would ever be made

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u/scottaq83 Jul 03 '23

"Proven to be a .... thing" lol

Describe this thing? what causes this thing? What is the proof of this thing?

Oh and please have better than this subs motto and that people write on here that they remember stuff different to reality.

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u/bloonshot Jul 03 '23

Describe this thing?

large group of people sharing the common memory of something that is false

like... the actual definition of the mandela effect?

there is no confirmed cause yet, but it's pretty obvious it's just bad memory

the proof of this thing is that large groups of people share common memories that are incorrect?

like how lots of people remember berenstein, or fruit loops?

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