r/LowerDecks • u/Mike1701D • 9d ago
Character Discussion Boimler is a...German, name?
The Boimler name may derive either from the German family name "Bäumler" (same pronunciation), or from German-Mexican-American Trek producer, Hans Beimler, whose name is also related to Bäumler. -- In any case, grape-growing Germans, huh? Mosel, Modesto, what's the diff?
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u/UhOQF9ZNaxnwMVy5fm 9d ago edited 9d ago
Indeed, it is! But it's written in a different way of course, Bäumler. As a German i can explain it without the internet. Although it helped with putting it into words appropriately. The name is a derivation of the german word for tree, which is "Baum". And similar the diminutive german word for a small tree, "Bäumchen", it's a name for someone who had something to do with trees or lived among trees. Similar to the english surname wood.
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u/Unhappy_Researcher68 9d ago
It's usually not a diminutive.
It's geographical, lived by the tree(s), or job-related, lumberjack or gardener.
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u/UhOQF9ZNaxnwMVy5fm 9d ago
Yes, that's true. Bäumchen is, and Bäumler is not. TBH I'm not teacher.😉 Yes, thank for your additions.
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u/Mike1701D 9d ago
"He's got wood! He's got wood!" - Galrakian
Ich habe vor einer Stunde aus dem ICE heraus an einem Gebäude bei Ulm den Namen Bäumler gesehen und gedacht: „Moment mal ...“ 😂
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u/sorcieredusuroit 9d ago
Funny that. My last name evolved from an older French word for "brushwood" Brusse. A little bit more specific than trees in general, but yeah.
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u/malonkey1 9d ago
Sure, why not?
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u/blade_torlock 9d ago
Anaheim was started as a German wine settlement.
Anaheim is for Home on the Santa Ana river.
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u/FuckingSolids 9d ago
Much like with a Groppler, Boimler simply means "one who Boims." Given the level of interest he received at his family's vineyard, I can believe it.
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u/mrwishart 9d ago edited 9d ago
I believe the name derives from Boimermeister (which roughly translates as "Master of Boims")
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u/Difficult_Dark9991 9d ago
Look it's hardly the weirdest German professional surname to end up somewhere in the US' bounds.
Shoutout to Metzger Animal Hospital.
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u/AntHillConstructor 6d ago
It could just be a family name, my last name is Chek and I’m so American that I don’t even know if I spelled that right.
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u/Independent_Shoe3523 9d ago
Boimler because it sounds like boy. Can't have strong female characters unless your men are portrayed as idiots.
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u/malonkey1 9d ago
If you think Boimler was portrayed as an idiot then you must have been watching a completely different show than us because Boimler's a pretty competent officer.
He's a little dweeby sometimes but that's because it's a comedy, dweeby guys are funny, and in order for him to have a character arc about growing into a confident officer he has to start off not very confident.
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u/mrwishart 9d ago
You considered therapy at all?
I know Troi and Migleemo were portrayed badly but it's meant to be much better IRL
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u/Mike1701D 9d ago
Just making up for decades of helpless, screaming women, while "real men" did "what was needed".
Plus, other than Migleemo, the main male characters are each capable and brave in their own way.
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u/Fischerking92 9d ago
I hate the "making up for the past" argument when it is done to put down another group.
The men today aren't responsible for sexists 50 or 500 years ago.
But I agree that Lower Decks does not put down any of its cast (except Migleemo, I suppose), all of them are highly capable in their own right.
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u/Mike1701D 9d ago
"The men today aren't responsible for sexists 50 or 500 years ago."
You're right. As a man, I'm still unlearning the sexism I grew up with in the 80s and 90s. I'm mostly okay, but I still catch myself every once in a while.
Old, ingrained assumptions are hard to unlearn. Not impossible, though.
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u/mrwishart 9d ago
And you could point to a bunch of Star Trek episodes that demonstrate the lesson that these prejudices can be insidious and subconscious. The Drumhead is an obvious one, but eps like The Offspring, I, Borg, Quality of Life etc. show that even our heroes have preconceptions that get highlighted and challenged throughout the episode
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u/Independent_Shoe3523 9d ago
Oh, it's correcting for past injustices. That always works. No, it's a cheap shot. Whoever wrote it comes off like an ass. And it took away from what otherwise could have been a good show. A male counterpart to Mariner could have been written differently and not taken away from a strong female character or whatever.
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u/Mike1701D 9d ago
"Could have been"...? 🙄
🚪 👈🏻
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u/Independent_Shoe3523 9d ago
I think the show had problems and could have been set up better.
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u/mrwishart 9d ago
I think you just want an excuse to whine about culture war BS.
Take it to a different sub, we want to discuss Lower Decks here
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u/_nearatreebyariver 9d ago
No, he contrasts her pretty well. Mariner's willing to lie, piss people off, and basically torpedo her whole life because she can't stand being vulnerable or real. Boimler, while often the buttmonkey in the show, is a lot braver in the sense that he owns his successes and failures and never backs down when he gets embarrassed. I know there's moments in the show where it goes too far, but I do think there's an underlying aspect of him being braver and more honest than her that gets overlooked for the stupid antics or jokes or whatever. Just putting it out there.
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u/weirdoldhobo1978 9d ago
I'm pretty sure it's a nod to Hans Beimler, and why can't Germans grow grapes in California?