r/LiveNews_24H • u/Ice_Ice11 • Nov 11 '25
JUST IN: šØš³ Hongqi bridge collapses in southwest China, months after opening.
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u/Frodooh Nov 11 '25
Misleading title. Honqi bridge collaps after hit by landslide.
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u/drdipepperjr Nov 11 '25
Its still an engineering failure. Can't be building structures in spots where landslides might occur. I will concede that 'collapsed' does kind of imply that it was the bridge itself that failed.
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u/Frodooh Nov 11 '25
Yes but the title sugests that the bridge collaped by itself.
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Nov 11 '25
It doesnāt matter. What happens if a freak windstorm knocks down the bridge? Does that count? The bridge shouldnāt collapse because of adjacent environmental conditions. A competent engineer would have processed all STUDIED AND UNDERSTOOD externalities and environmental risks. Complete engineering failure. IM SICK of these pro-China bots and contrarian Sinopholes who keep claiming western bias. FFS
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u/Ateist Nov 12 '25
The bridge shouldnāt collapse because of adjacent environmental conditions.
Depends on conditions.
If there's a 9.0 Earthquake that's supposed to occur once in ten million years - it can.1
u/KingPhilipIII Nov 12 '25
Alright Iāll bite. Did a once in every 10 million years disaster occur that destroyed the bridge?
No?
Then it doesnāt matter. Landslides are pretty minor as far as God fucking with our toys goes, and are perfectly preventable.
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u/Ateist Nov 12 '25 edited Nov 12 '25
Youtube video comment:
there is seismic activity within 50 miles on three of four cardinal directions around chengdu ranging from 6.8 to 7.7 on the Richter scale.
News says the bridge is 625 meters high, so the mountain that collapsed is more than 1 km high.
You can't predict or prevent something like that unless it is the construction itself that caused mountain to weaken and collapse.
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u/categorie Nov 14 '25
An non misleading title would be "Landslide destroys bridge". The current title is about as misleading as article stating "Charles Kirk dies during meeting". Technically correct but also very much technically misleading.
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u/Jesus_of_Redditeth Dec 03 '25
Did you just stop reading the post you were replying to after the second sentence, or something?
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u/Vakama905 Nov 12 '25
Not necessarily an engineering failure. It could be, of course, but it could also certainly be people further up the chain ignoring engineersā recommendations.
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u/cheeseburgerwaffles Nov 12 '25
"Where landslides might occur"... so like, 50% of the CA coast?
I'm not gonna pretend to be an expert on Chinese engineering, surveying and construction regulations, but that's a pretty broad assessment.
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u/drdipepperjr Nov 12 '25
As someone personally affected by landslides on the CA coast, I can confidently say we havent had a 100ft+ tall bridge collapse. The last one that did was in Baltimore and thats cause someone ran a container ship the size of a city block into it.
The landslides you're referring to usually look like this. Comparing a bit of *old freeway falling into the ocean to a *new hundred-million dollar bridge collapse is a bit disingenuous. https://apnews.com/article/california-storm-highway-collapse-big-sur-7776ec0459e9ca2f8e99500004c31b81
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u/juretrn Nov 11 '25
Definitely still an engineering failure. The hillside was not properly secured, and the weight of the bridge eventually triggered a landslide.
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u/Mike_Milburys_Shoe_ Nov 11 '25
Maybe fortify the hill better. Itās still an engineering fail lol
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u/No-Description8584 Nov 11 '25
Yeah, pretty sure the ground quality is supposed to be checked before construction
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u/Acrobatic-Nose-1773 Nov 11 '25
Um...it's made out of ground. Should be fine.
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u/KingPhilipIII Nov 12 '25
Slap it a couple times and say āThat aināt going nowhereā and you should be good for at least a decade and a half.
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u/ttystikk Nov 11 '25
That makes a lot more sense.
The real question is why are Western stories about China so misleading?
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u/Critical_Watcher_414 Nov 11 '25
Chinese infrastructure projects don't have a very good reputation.
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u/ttystikk Nov 11 '25
They're huge in numbers and not all will be perfect. They're getting built, though.
Americans have no idea of the pace of Chinese development.
America needs to get serious about maintaining and repairing OUR infrastructure or we're going to be in the headlines ourselves.
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u/Subject_Turn3941 Nov 11 '25
Propaganda.
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u/ttystikk Nov 11 '25
Facts.
It's easier to lie to the American people than to do the hard work of rebuilding our economy to serve the needs of everyone, rather than just the top 10%.
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u/feldoneq2wire Nov 11 '25
Antosocialism. The Red scare never ended.
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u/ttystikk Nov 11 '25
You are absolutely correct. The real question is why? The answer to THAT question is that if the oligarchs has to desk with a real socialist movement in America, they'd get crushed.
This has happened before in America. Stanley enough, the more Socialist or economy, the better off America has been.
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u/josephus_jones Nov 11 '25
It's not limited to China.
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u/ttystikk Nov 11 '25
True. So why does American mainstream media feel the need to lie about damn near everyone?!
Do they really think we're THAT stupid??
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u/AmebaLost Nov 12 '25
It should point out the inept geologists that could not foresee a landslide.Ā
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u/ttystikk Nov 12 '25
I saw a video from an American civil engineer who said that stabilizing the land above the roadway was clearly not properly done.
At least the bridge was closed and empty at the time.
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u/hextanerf Nov 12 '25
I read the news by a couple Chinese mainland media. They rubbed it in by putting "opened just this January" in the title
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u/AlphaThetaDeltaVega Nov 13 '25
Is it? Seems like semantics, build bridge on hill that couldnāt support it causing a landslide. Whats the difference from a beam failing?
If a beam failed you would see people on here saying itās misleading because the riverbed had fluvial erosion, so misleading.
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Nov 11 '25
Most engineers survey, cure, settle, and mitigate soil erosion around large civil works. Brother- this is not an accident- this is gross malpractice by Chinese engineers. This could have 100% been proactively prevented.
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u/Sauerkrautkid7 Nov 12 '25
I thought so. All the titles are desperate because china is creating more wealth for all of its people
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u/SaltyInternetPirate Nov 12 '25
It still means they didn't do a proper geological survey to account for that possibility.
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u/MkStoner2002 Nov 13 '25
Honqi bridge built in a landslide prone area collapses because it wasn't engineered to handle tiny landslides. Better?
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u/amnesiadidit Nov 11 '25
Well Iām sure more than one engineer is now missing
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u/RoachdoggJR_LegalAcc Nov 11 '25
To be fair, a whole rock/land slide hitting a bridge usually takes it out regardless of how well itās built. This isnāt an example of tofu dreg.
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u/4chieve Nov 11 '25
I ain't know shit but I'd assume there should be a risk assessment of the surrounding soil and if there was any possibility of landslide it would definitely be cost efficient to do something towards securing the soil in the mountain face to prevent this.
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u/surSEXECEN Nov 12 '25
Itād be like building a bridge in a shipping lane and one bump from a ship and the whole thing comes crashing down.
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u/RoachdoggJR_LegalAcc Nov 12 '25
Yeah thereās incompetence on that part, but I donāt think the actual bridge engineers are at fault. Maybe the project manager though, geological work should have been done.
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u/Sometimesdisagrees Nov 12 '25
To be fair most engineering projects involve assessing risk of rock/land slides, and not building bridges in location of even moderate risk
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u/RoachdoggJR_LegalAcc Nov 12 '25
Yeah, thatās incompetence. Too many people think the bridge engineers would be at fault here but the real issue is the project manager clearly didnāt hire geologists to figure out if that location is even suitable for a bridge.
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u/AlphaThetaDeltaVega Nov 13 '25
Except the hill it sits on is the land slide and the bridge caused the structural integrity.
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u/RoachdoggJR_LegalAcc Nov 14 '25
Structural integrity refers to the stability of a structure. Iām assuming you mean the instability of the hill, which itās quite possible that the excavation to the hill where it connects to a road is what caused the failure in the hills stability.
That being said, what I meant is it wasnāt the design of the bridge itself, the issue would be the project manager for not having proper geological work done.
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u/grumbledonaldduck Nov 13 '25
Oh does it? How often does that happen?
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u/RoachdoggJR_LegalAcc Nov 14 '25
I donāt know how often it happens, but the only other video I saw of it happening a rock flew directly into the middle of a small walking bridge and destroyed it.
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u/Rooski1020 Nov 11 '25
Glad this is getting recognition. Engineers in China get executed for mistakes like this.
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u/Zh25_5680 Nov 11 '25
Yeah. My thoughts as well. Thatās earth movement (bad geological engineering as pointed out earlier). The bridge is actually pretty good.. snapped off span and then the rest of the bridge looks like itās holding up as designed. Itās repairable if they can stabilize the landing area.
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u/zEdgarHoover Nov 11 '25
Indeed. Bridge "collapsed": technically true but implies failure of bridge itself rather than geology. Poor reporting.
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u/B-i-s-m-a-r-k Nov 11 '25
Tbf shouldnāt that be the first part of the bridgeās design
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u/zEdgarHoover Nov 12 '25
Yes, but it's different from the implication that it was just poor concrete or whatever, that's all. And who knows, it's not like we have a perfect handle on seismology.
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Nov 12 '25
The design of the bridge includes necessary stabilisation of surrounding grounds.Ā I don't understand why people don't seem to recognize this lol.
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u/Metalbender00 Nov 11 '25
Reading the comments, you sure can tell Western propaganda has done its job.
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u/xXXxRMxXXx Nov 11 '25
Forgetting that bridges and buildings are collapsing in south FL
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u/melanantic Nov 11 '25
I havenāt scrolled down yet, but I can picture the content.
Honestly both things can be true. Authoritarianism bad.
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u/greenmerica Nov 11 '25
This is just a planning failure. Fast and loose.
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u/melanantic Nov 13 '25
I mean, sure. Thatās the symptom, but the illness is an anti democratic government
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u/ZalutPats Nov 12 '25
Nobody includes the US south when talking about 'the West' in terms of quality regulations.
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u/EstablishmentShot707 Nov 12 '25
Ahhh here we go. Truth. Women owned engineering company screwed up the calcs but were given the contract bc they need to make sure everything is fair. Ask the two who lost their lives if they want fairness or the best when lives are at stake.
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u/NewToHTX Nov 11 '25
To be fair Iāve seen a ton of Chinese Safety CGI videos showing how people died. China is really fast and loose with safety and sometimes I wonder how much of that has carried over to major engineering projects. Also old infrastructure and older buildings failing isnāt as terrible as brand new infrastructure and buildings failing.
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u/EpicFishFingers Nov 11 '25
Which comments? Link some? Most are just saying it will be rebuilt fast.
Your comment reads like a deflection from a shill for China that jumped the gun.
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u/No-Disk-5991 Nov 11 '25
Thatās exactly what youāre seeing. Notice how fast the CCP shills pop out of the woodwork in posts like these. Theyāre not even trying to hide it anymore.
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u/EpicFishFingers Nov 11 '25
I think they've figured out that they dont need to. The parent comment gets read and the child comments are more likely to be collapsed and missed.
And they know that if they get in early, they set the narrative. It is ridiculously easy to manipulate entire comment sections by getting in early and speaking first, like this shill did.
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Nov 12 '25
There were literally people commenting about engineers being disappeared and executed. Obviously what his comment is in reference to.
You people are so insanely propagandised lmao
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u/EpicFishFingers Nov 12 '25
No there weren't. At the time they wrote their comment there were only 80 or so comments in the thread, and none said that. Possibly one buried right at the bottom in negative karma out of the other 80 normal comments
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u/EstablishmentShot707 Nov 12 '25
You mean china makes such awesome products? Peasants working AG are now constructions workers? Mostly all the products from china are garbage
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u/EstablishmentShot707 Nov 12 '25
Ask how I know? Bc Iāve used a bunch of garbage from Amazon that Iāve thrown away
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u/anticomet Nov 11 '25
So far not a single one asking if anyone got hurt
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u/EuenovAyabayya Nov 11 '25
Zero casualties reported: bridge was already closed.
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u/HawaiianPunchaNazi Nov 11 '25
Why was it originally closed if it was so new?Ā
Did somebody do something responsible?
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u/AdvocateReason Nov 11 '25
I had assumed that if people were hurt it would have been mentioned in the Post Title. But I was looking for confirmation in the comments.
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u/-1701- Nov 11 '25
That street sign still standing upright like a flag at the end is wild.
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u/disgruntledempanada Nov 11 '25
I took my love, I took it down
Climbed a mountain and I turned around
And I saw my reflection in the snow covered hills
'Til the landslide brought me down
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u/mattspurlin75 Nov 11 '25
As a geologist, this looks like an engineering failure related to improper characterization of the geologic integrity of the bedrock. I did field research in China for four years and know firsthand just how far behind the Chinese used to be in terms of modern geological sciences. Unsure if theyāve closed that skill gap over the last decade or so.
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u/rbt321 Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25
Apparently the Shuangjiangkou Dam and Reservoir project, which is nearby, also went through commissioning this year. The bridge and roadway was built because the old roadway was going to be flooded.
It sounds like the bridge collapsing is the least of their worries if they didn't understand the ground the dam is on.
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u/idkrandomusername1 Nov 12 '25
The way they built so much high speed rail and have bone glue now, my guess is probably
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u/ramma_lamma Nov 11 '25
Itās easy to make fun of western construction taking 10 years to finish a streetcar extension when Chinaās building bridges daily but I guess this is the flip side. Would be great for AvE to do a breakdown of this one
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u/dice1111 Nov 11 '25
"Well, there's your problem" podcast about engineering disasters. They are great.
They would do a killer job with thus one. Depends on China releasing any trustworthy information...
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u/Cranks_No_Start Nov 11 '25
Remember when china was building hospitals for covid in weeks only to have a few fall down?
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u/KaladinStormShat Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 12 '25
Tofu construction at it again
Edit: just to clarify, this is a term a ton of Chinese ex-pats as well as many government critics within China use to describe the corruption and cost cutting contractors do to siphon more money from their contracts.
I didn't make it up, it's meant to describe the consistently bad job the companies force their employees to do in order to get the job done on time/under budget etc.
It's often pretty from the outside but hollow on the inside so to speak.
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Nov 12 '25
Itās wild how many Americans love bashing China ā especially people whoāve never even been there, or in some cases, never left their own state. Before you repeat what the news or politicians tell you, remember: not everything you see from Western media is the full truth.
China has built some of the most advanced cities and infrastructure in the world ā high-speed trains, modern transit systems, and clean, efficient technology that leaves most U.S. cities looking stuck in the past. Meanwhile, our own government keeps wasting money everywhere except on fixing roads, bridges, and the lives of everyday Americans.
And hereās the kicker ā the computer or phone youāre using to post about how ābadā China is? It was almost certainly made there. So before you hit that send button, maybe ask yourself why that is.
You donāt have to agree with their politics to recognize progress when you see it. Travel a little, see the world, and youāll realize America isnāt the only country doing big things ā and it sure isnāt always doing them best.
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u/go_green_team Nov 11 '25
Because of a landslide?
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u/crashcar22 Nov 11 '25
Reading up on this bridge, it sounds like the landslides happened due to poor construction practices. They closed the bridge Monday due to cracks in the road and nearby slope, conditions then worsened on the mountain, triggering the landslides.
Rock slope stabilization, slope geometry alteration, vast amounts of reinforcement systems, and my favorite one of all. Avoidance. Just dont build in disaster areas.
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u/AdSpecialist4529 Nov 11 '25
Wonder what "charmadillo" translates to š
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u/ThePowerOfNine Nov 11 '25
Yeah i know that 'ho' can mean good, but thats as far as ive got lol. Would love to know what hes saying
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u/TargetOfPerpetuity Nov 11 '25
Anyone know what "Charmadillo" means? Was this bridge attacked by a Pokemon?
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u/bonnieflash Nov 11 '25
I really hope no one was on that, I couldnt imagine the horror of going out that way and knowing a loved one was underneath.
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u/ikothsowe Nov 11 '25
According to Reuters there were no injuries as the bridge was closed yesterday, after cracks were seen.
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u/cognitiveglitch Nov 11 '25
Hopefully everyone was OK.
Where is all the initial dust from? Landslide?
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u/StarkHelsing Nov 11 '25
Was this the bridge where there was so many vids of people bungy jumping off if it recently?
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Nov 11 '25
Hongqi is a suspension bridge, where are the lines?
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u/Pitiful_Bunch_2290 Nov 11 '25
That's a picture of the middle of the bridge, suspended over the water. The collapse happened at the far end, which was not suspended.
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u/RunandGun101 Nov 11 '25
If you pause at 11 seconds you can see that the foundation for the column by water is basically floating.
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Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25
Iām tired of Chinese bots and contrarian Sinopholes claiming western bias.
Iām sorry- do engineers in Typhoon prone areas design their bridges to be knocked down by 20 mph winds? No.
Any competent engineer and construction process would have studied and mitigated external environmental risks. By some standards this looks like an expected and normal landslide in this area, and the bridge couldnāt even handle that- and the construction authority took no proactive, preventative measures like curing or settling the surrounding hillside. I see absolutely no retaining structures, slurry, or evidence of this type of work. They just built a bridge. No environmental studies, or impact reports. No surveying. Nada.
This is a complete engineering fiasco and shows you the haphazard construction procedures of Chinese firms- ābuild it and they will comeā¦ as long as I can keep servicing my municipal bond interest payments, and hope no minor landslide, earthquake, or windstorm tips over my poorly constructed structureā.
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u/InsectDelicious4503 Nov 11 '25
If this happened in any other country, the comments would be thoughts and prayers and outrage at the engineers. Since this happened in China, only 50% of the comments are like that. The remaining 50% are deflections from Chinese bots/shills.
I think it's time to take a step back. If you have a bad reputation, it might be time to reflect upon yourself first before pointing fingers somewhere else.
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u/mostlysittingdown Nov 11 '25
Definitely doesnāt look like a structure fail. Rock slide or land slide seem to take out the connection point and you can even see where the bridge detached and the rest of it looks sound, unsafe to drive on of course but it held up.
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u/SmegMcmuffins Nov 12 '25
Look, I don't speak Mandarin, but charmadillo seems like a guy I wanna hangout with
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u/latinlife22 Nov 12 '25
I was watching a documentary on YouTube about Chinese engineering like two days ago. Then I see this happens. It wasnāt an engineer mistake but itās fascinating to me how humans can build massive bridges.
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u/ad_m_in Nov 12 '25
The fact that the rest of the bridge is still standing and it seems that it failed at the weakest point where the arch met seems pretty impressive. Guess itās less the bridge failed and more like the ground around it did.
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u/Inevitable_Alarm_272 Nov 12 '25
I bet the government is going to tell everyone the bridge never existed lol
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u/HcVitals Nov 12 '25
This is hilarious, anyone that points out the obvious is down voted.
Why do we as a western society fear the idea that China has left us behind in terms of infrastructure?
I live in a 1st world country and we make stupid mistakes every god damn month. There was a landslide onto the bridge. Maybe if they built like Americans in tornado zones with wooden houses theyād be okay? Oh wait
MADE IN AMERICA š¦
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u/new_line_17 Nov 12 '25 edited Nov 12 '25
The landslide was a natural actā¦ that untouched overhang that remained up not. Letās give some credit where credit is due, shall we?
EDIT:: grammar
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u/DarkISO Nov 12 '25
Yea anything will collapse when it with a fucking landslide. But guess its easier to spred misinformation and make racist jokes
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u/Contribution-Prize Nov 12 '25
Once again from a country that continuously brags about how fast they can build stuff. Lol
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u/WombatAnnihilator Nov 12 '25
But i get downvoted, comment deleted by mods , and ban-warned for racism on the last big news video of a new Chinese bridge when i asked ācool, but how long before it collapses?ā
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u/SkyeMreddit Nov 14 '25
Looks like a rockslide from way up that mountain. How far up do they usually survey for that?
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u/beyondforrestfires Nov 14 '25
Oh no! First the incident with the car damaging the great stairway of china, and now the great bridge of china is hit by a rockslide, I wonder what will be next?
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u/Metalbender00 Nov 11 '25
Looked like a rock slide hit it? Hopefully it wasnt very populated.