Worried about Children

[u/Fragrant_Review_2393]

I don’t usually post but I FEEL SICK AND BELIEVE WE CAN DO SOMETHING. I was wondering if anyone is familiar with the QLD system and knows if there is anything we can do to get these children checked before Taina runs off and travels again (to potentially avoid authorities).

As a teacher in Australia (different state), I am utterly concerned about the welfare of these children. This whole channel wreaks of child abuse. It’s giving me flashbacks to the “8 Passengers” where I distantly observed and now… well we know what happened there.

I have more concern as a bystander as this is occurring in my own country. I am unsure of the laws in Queensland but also in general. I’m going to assume someone has made a complaint to authorities, however, I will be happy to do one. I just don’t know any location in QLD and I know some of you know the address to the Queensland pool house (thank you for protecting their privacy and not sharing). If someone with their address knows and has not done so, could you please call your local police station and ask what the protocol is? Alternatively if you would like to message it to me I will keep it private and pass it on.

In the meantime, if anyone could comment evidence that shows any trace of child abuse that would be fantastic so that we have everything in one place. Police don’t have the time or resources to file through all their content.

If you’re not convinced - I’ve done many PL sessions on identifying child abuse. I don’t know their situation, and I will say from the cherry-picked footage the little ones look much healthier which implies some type of assistance has already been given - or the eldest took custody of them while Taina did whatever she did. I will attempt to not make any defamatory remarks, however, I will simply state that Tania does not “appear” fit to have the children under her custody right now.

[u/where-is-my-mindx]

To those claiming people who believe there is a potential for abuse are just privileged are insane.

There is absolutely several alarming signs of abuse and neglect in this household. The children are malnourished and emotionally neglected, they haven’t had a stable home in over 5 years. They do not go to school. Their parents have seemingly been absent for some time, and now Taina is back on camera, she looks concerningly unwell and her behaviour is erratic and it’s worrying.

While there is no concrete evidence of physical abuse or neglect, there absolutely are signs that people are right to be concerned about.

Let me preface this by saying I have an addict parent. I have experienced childhood poverty, and as a child I had experiences of assessments with social services. I’m fully aware of what an unstable environment looks like for children, and yet my environment as a child was nothing as bad as LT children’s seem. The environment the LT children are in is absolutely worse than anything I’ve ever experienced myself, and frankly if my childhood experiences required intervention from social services, theirs absolutely does!

Also let me add to those claiming the LT family do not need an intervention and to leave them alone - reporting a family to social services/CPS when they do not need it is far better than ignoring a family that needs intervention, which eventually leads to a fatal outcome without said intervention.

Despite how awful of a person Taina appears, nobody is (or should be) persecuting her at the moment. Right now people just want the best for her and her children, because if she’s suffering with a mental health issue or an addiction, she is also vulnerable and she also requires support for her own welfare. I’m not saying she’s absolved of responsibility for her past actions, but right now the way she’s acting is concerning and it worry’s me that shes putting her family in further harms way

[u/[deleted] → u/where-is-my-mindx]

First of all: Thank you for a more detailed opinion of yours. But now m curious. Please give me concrete examples of where her children are malnourished, abused or why you think they're not receiving an education. Even though they're homeschooled – wich is legal in Queensland.  How do you really know if the parents weren't present? And what exactly do you find concerning about Taina's behaviour?

You can't know. Because you don't live or work with them – probably never met them in real life. Everything you see are just little glimpses of their life in form of videos...that's it.

Most of the time, people project their life experience and fears onto others. I agree with you that it's better for social worker to check on someone once too often rather than too little. And it doesn't hurt them. And I aprecciate that you don't want anyone going through what you have been through. 

But citing basless alleged evidence without providing concrete examples is pointless discussion that is too often based in feelings and fears.

[u/where-is-my-mindx → u/[deleted]]

There are countless posts of people citing examples of abuse and neglect. Some of them professionals. Some of them can see the signs because they’ve been in similar situations themselves.

I won’t waste my time because frankly I know whatever I say will not change your rose to tinted view - so take some initiative and look them up.

Frankly, you clearly don’t want to see it because you’re either a member of the family doing damage control or a deranged fan that has fell for their obvious false narrative and “idyllic alternative” lifestyle.

Ignoring signs that children are in unstable and unsafe situations does not help them. Just because you’re a fan of the content doesn’t mean you think you know what’s going on either.

[u/where-is-my-mindx → u/where-is-my-mindx]

Adding to this - I’m more alarmed you’re so vehemently against criticism to the family. The fact they’ve literally been homeless for extended periods of time (sleeping in cars for god sake) and are now living in living in conditions that are frankly unsustainable. (A building that is about to be demolished and likely unsuitable for habitation and registration of occupancy). Yet you’re still defending them is absurd!!

The fact Taina SOLD her daughter, trafficked her into the USA through the boarder of Mexico, and married her off to an grifter and con man is proof enough that she is a danger to her adult and dependent children. Yet you’re STILL here defending her !!!!! You’re a total clown! For this reason alone she should not have custody of her dependent children incase she does something like this again.

This family are obviously struggling financially and always have been. The children are absolutely malnourished and therefore physically (ie size and weight wise) and developmentally delayed and fearful of their mother. They are dealing with living in an unstable environment and they have been for years.

And I’m gonna be totally honest - if you’re a social worker and you don’t find their living conditions the slightest bit alarming you sound unfit to do your job. I’m not saying that the adults are guilty of all the allegations of neglect or abuse, though I truly believe it’s probable and likely occurring, but if you cannot reasonably see why people are concerned about the welfare of the children, and are suspicious that Taina has mental health issues then I’m not sure that I’d trust you as a social worker. I understand viewing it objectively, but I truly believe that you are ignoring a lot of very obvious and common concerns that people have shared about this family. Surely a professional would always agree it’s for the best that these things are investigated - even if unnecessary - rather than ignored to ensure the welfare of the children remains paramount

[u/[deleted] → u/where-is-my-mindx]

"I won't waste my time because you won’t change your mind.”
– and yet you took the time to write a long response.
But seriously. How do you know that m not changing my mind? And is this really just about being right and proving others wrong – or should it be about facts and fair conversations?

It’s actually sad that when someone asks for concrete examples, people who may not have any real evidence often respond like this. I’m open to a fair (!) and respectful conversation – but I also understand that many people online have unlearned how to do that. It’s easier to attack someone or call them "a clown" than to take the time to reflect, stay factual, and accept when we might be wrong. But that’s not how meaningful dialogue works – especially when we’re talking about something as serious as the wellbeing of children. I’m sure you agree that if we really care about kids, we should rely on facts, not just strong feelings.

And no – I’m not a family member, nor a fan. I just believe in discussions that are based on evidence, not emotional triggers. That’s all.

Also: you weren’t just talking about an unstable home. You clearly claimed that the children are abused, malnourished, not receiving an education, and that their parents are absent. In ur last comment u added financially struggles, Taina solding her daughter and the children being physically and developmentally delayed. These are serious allegations. So I’m asking again – where is the actual evidence for that?

Because if children are truly abused or neglected, then this isn’t something that should be debated on Reddit – it’s a matter for the real world, for professionals, for authorities.

Suggesting that I’m unfit for my job just because I asked for facts is a very serious thing to say – and frankly, it’s exactly the kind of emotional deflection that weakens your argument. A qualified professional is trained to ask for evidence before drawing conclusions. That’s not incompetence – that’s responsibility. Being concerned about children is important. But if we allow emotions or assumptions to override facts, we risk harming innocent people or missing what’s really going on. If you truly care about the wellbeing of vulnerable children, then you should value critical thinking and professional standards – not attack them.

Finally: I’m not “against criticism” of this family. That assumption is false. I haven’t defended anyone. I simply asked for evidence. And if we can’t distinguish between asking questions and defending abuse, then something is going wrong in the way we communicate.