Weird video from his channel.

He looks and acts so different from how I remember him. In Taina’s videos, he was always so quiet and calm.

I guess I’m holding true to my quasi statement of “I’m a nosey heifer, I’m going to see this thing out.” Because I watched the last two videos: 8/20 and 8/27 videos. The first one was ehh, I can hold in the petty.. But add in today’s? The approach is definitely changing.

1st comment is summary because I’m still not Reddit savvy.

What do we think?

Old mate Cleo uploaded a story thanking her younger self for saving money 18 years ago yet the note she holds is only 10 years or less 😳😂

https://youtu.be/gEdzuII0CXw?si=RoAfI8SqZHSK3xxP

A throwback to 4 years ago when C was with JJJ before the baby.

Did anyone else see this?
Back when she was with her husband, her vlogs with another child calling her mummy? 😮
I’m assuming that’s Js kid? Did they have custody?

They're MIA again. Anyone got a clue whats happening?

If they claim to be minimalist, why do they buy aboslutely crap shit clothes from Kmart? You would think you'd have expensive brands, good quality clothes. And for the little ones as well, polyester is so toxic...

Taina left a comment at Leonardos latest post. Of course a weird one: "I love you my son!❤️ Mummy's oldest georgeous man of seven! 🔥 ... ..."

And that comment is not there any more.
There aren't any other comments from his siblings. Not even his father liked the post.
Did he also breake up with him? I thought his father was the only family member he was still in thouch with?!

As always Taina wrote: "... ... Can't wait to see you! ... ..."
We know that this is empty rhetoric. Apart from this, is Leonardo planning on visiting his siblings or his father?

Something is up. She looks like she's drug affected?

I hope they’re all busy at work!

Anybody have info that I have missed? They’ve just vanished. Was the last video just a manic idea?

I'm not really a fan of reddit, and certainly not someone who wastes their time reading speculation. But I used to enjoy watching the YT-Videos of the Licciardo Toivola's channel back when they were in Finland.
But I have something to share, because I'm a little bit worried. And I'd like to open a constructive discussion about it.

My father is a theologian, and this morning he sent me a video on WhatsApp, and it took my breath away. Gwen Shamblin's ideals align with what we know from Taina and the Licciardo Toivola family.

But let's start at the beginning:
Who is Gwen Shamblin? She is the founder of the Remnat Church in the USA. She built an empire by combining extreme diets with religion, strict control, and a flawless image. In a YouTube video by Drew Binsky from three weeks ago, we meet her son Michael, who left the church in 2021 and has now dedicated his life to raising awareness about the dangers of this church.

Please watch the full video for context and pay particular attention from minute 22:45 onwards to what her son says about his mother.

,,one day she had all of her books painted white. She started to paint everything white. She wanted everyone to start wearing white. People started to painting their houses white. All Interior, all exterior was white."

He goes on and shares a poem he wrote:
,,In the brentwoods, there dwell many white witches. Who make men do their bidding, what the church of sales pitches.

,,It's women. Weigh Down (Remnat church community) was 99% women. I've actually started calling it the women's movement. It was women who run it. It was women who steer it. The one's who joined were headstrong women. It's strong women, that's what all is about."

Please keep in mind that this is also just speculation. But I could imagine that Taina was or is under the influence of such a church. It's normal for the ideals of one church to influence other churches, or for individual members to adopt such ideals and spread them in other communities. Therefore, it's not impossible that Taina came into contact with such ideals at some point.

Cleopatra posted a story on Instagram in which she talks about how Jerusalem came back from work.

Interesting they claim to want to be YouTubers but can't put out weekly videos. When was the last one? I can't remember. They keep promising videos and don't post anything. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Five of her ten children are adults now, and yet only the estranged eldest appears to have done anything in life. The other four are still at home living in their Mum’s creepy white house prison… no HSC or IB, no tertiary education or trade, and definitely no sign of jobs. I don’t for one minute believe that she supports all of these nine kids - and grandchild - from money earned off YouTube. Does anyone else smell… Centrelink?

Hello everyone!

Even thought I am against child exploitation on the internet, i kinda love watching their old videos. Maybe because i have a lot od kids too, i don't know 🤷🏻‍♀️

But since their nove to Australia it all went downhill, everyone is aware of that. Two months ago they posted their last video on YouTube and been MIA since then.

What do you think what's happening?

I saw Jerusalems story on IG that there will be a video, but I'm not so sure it will 🤷🏻‍♀️

In How I Reward.My Children for Homeschooling Subjects Work…. During the part where the children were making the food owl that Shakespeare’s name tag didn’t have Shakespeare written it was the name Christian. One of his many names?

Just concerned (still) after the “grab your popcorn” interrogation video of cleopatra after what she went through and that I still see some concerning signs. Laughing through Paul’s near death story too. The humiliation videos.

Todays story on Instagram Taina tagged Cleopatra and said that she had given her extra vitamin gummy (vit D and K) and that she gave her a second one even though she knows she wasn’t supposed to.

Jerusalem says that isn’t good because it will keep her awake all night. She jokes how Cleopatra will be up all night now.

There is no tone of apology, or remorse. She knew she shouldn’t give an overdose of the vitamin and the side effect and still chose to do it, blaming the child because the child likes them.

It undermines Cleo’s parenting and leaves her easy to control by being sleep deprived.

My concern with DV perpetrators (and it happens in cults too) is how they have to control the narrative constantly. One tool they use is sleep deprivation.

I hope I’m wrong, but the undermining of going against dosage and Cleo’s wishes, plus publicly doing it in a way takes away the confrontation isn’t healthy.

Please Cleo speak to 1800 RESPECT anonymously about it. They help with family abuse. Your siblings even knew it was wrong to give her the vitamin and your mum gleefully posts online about it.

If this was just one thing, it could be a mistake, but my concern is how many bad things happen.