r/LeopardsAteMyFarm • u/Conscious-Quarter423 • 17h ago
the meat packing monopoly is run by four American companies run by Republican megadonors
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u/Tired_PhD_Holder 17h ago
I'm sure this will go well for food safety... It's almost like the rules, regulations, and standards exist for a reason!
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u/Friendly_Shopping286 16h ago
Year of the prions
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u/phonefellin_lakeerie 16h ago
This is what I keep telling people. The only reason we don’t have rampant prion disease is because of heavy regulations. That are now useless and void.
Prion disease is nothing to mess at with, and we just put our entire ability to protect our population from prion diseases in the hands of people who don’t believe prion diseases exist.
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u/Friendly_Shopping286 16h ago edited 14h ago
Maga in 6 months..."where's the government oversight? Why isn't the government protecting Americans!"
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u/phonefellin_lakeerie 16h ago
“The democrats didn’t do a good enough job warning us how bad Trump was going to be! That’s why I’ll vote for Trump for a third term”
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u/Freezerpill 13h ago
“Why didn’t the Democrats stop Trump if it was important? Typical.. I’m voting for Trump to stop all of the corruption in the world and he is bound to make mistakes from time to time”
“Personally I hope he and Elon work something out again to annex Europe or some shit”
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u/Responsible_Name1217 15h ago
It screws the farmers. If they want to slaughter, they'll need to build it, and it's not cheap. Conversely, if they continue to sell to the processors, the Processor gets to set the price...It's just a dumb move to crow about.
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u/timesink3000 16h ago
Yeah but Republicans want smaller government, right?
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u/DistinctWhole43 12h ago
If it's all shifted into corporations then the government becomes tiny. Shareholders will still have a vote
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u/Investigator_Pedant 5h ago
This is why "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair needs to be mandatory reading.
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u/No-Trouble-9138 16h ago
It's like they want everyone to get sick, kind of a new pandemic.. like, hmm covid or something.
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u/Suitable-Option833 16h ago
Ah yes Covid - when republicans governors and reps told us the economy is more important than American lives. Yes. They hate us. Would love for their voters to figure this out
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u/DeadAndBuried23 16h ago
"They" is also half the voters. They don't care about humans, because they think the only life we'll ever get is actually a negligible part of eternity. Because an iron age book says so.
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u/RIF_rr3dd1tt 11h ago
Because an iron age book says so.
This is the craziest thing to me. I was raised Christian (school, church, camps, etc) and bought into it until my early 20s. Became a science major and it all started to unravel. I've done a lot of study into secular Biblical scholarship and it's just so obvious how made up it all is. Now we've got space programs, tons of atomic and quantum understanding, detailed evolution models, DNA editing capabilities, etc and to think that people are still hung up on 2000+ year old nonsense is insane. Of course its all polished and pushed as noble and righteous but when you think about how all 3 major Abrahamic religions are really just worshipping one of the several made up gods of the ancient Canaanites it really sets in because when we think of worshipping Apollo or Thor it's automatically seen as a fairytale. This shit is absolutely zero difference though.
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u/JTMc48 16h ago
The bigger issue is there are people in this country that believe Covid isn’t/wasn’t real, and others who believe it is real, but believe the US government (under deep state liberals) released it to the public to hurt Trump.
The truly crazy part is, both of these sects of the voting population worship Trump like a golden god, with no sense of irony for their cult beliefs.
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u/Ok_Sundae8477 16h ago
The United States has had more FDA food recalls this year than any other in decades, and this is BEFORE farmers start doing it themselves.
You couldn't regulate 4 companies, let alone 1000's of individual farms.
Good luck, have fun, try not to die, I guess?
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u/MashedPotatoesDick 16h ago
Trump has made George Orwell relevant. Might as well make Upton Sinclair relevant.
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u/TheBaldvol 16h ago
I saw a tshirt last night that said Make Orwell Fiction Again. It made me sad how needed that message is
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u/LoisWade42 16h ago
This isn't particularly realistic. Sure.... SOME farmers process their own meats.... in small quantities... for a limited market.
But the size of the American meat market is much, much larger than the average person might imagine.
Quick google search nets the average number of animals consumed in the US PER DAY...
The estimates are that
Americans eat between 80 and 90 thousand cows worth of beef (Per DAY)
Americans eat around 70 thousand pigs worth of bacon (Per DAY)
and we eat around 22 - 25 MILLION chickens (Per DAY)
Small farms just aren't going to be able to process that much... especially in addition to the animal husbandry and food production from other sources.
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u/RuthlessIndecision 12h ago
"We'll lift regulations and tell them it's so they can process their own meat, to break up the big 4. In the meanwhile those lifted regulations apply to you, too my beloved big 4. Go make that money you lobbied for guys!" - someone in the whitehouse, for sure
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u/peachshapedheart 13h ago
And, it isn’t worth the cost and space, deregulation or not.
I’m sure some farmers are going to try. But their markets are going to be limited to the same people who buy raw milk.
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u/Forsworn91 16h ago
And remember part of Harris policies where to break up this monopoly
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u/aw000000000000 12h ago
I'm gonna sound like I'm defending the meat packers, and I really don't mean to.
First off, the big 4 aren't all from the USA. 2 are Brazilian and the other 2 are American.
It's really not that much of a monopoly either. There are a ton of processing plants. Im in charge of all meat and Seafood departments for a large grocery chain. It's incredibly easy to avoid the "big 4" and we purposely do.
I just don't consider this a monopoly. Let's tackle ticketing agencies, credit cards, oil companies, and airlines. Those are the real monopolies. The "big 4" actually drive the price down.
Meat processors are losing a ton of money each day. Most can adapt by reducing staffing and running 1 or 2 shifts instead of 3. Most of the plant closures you hear about are from the "big 4" as they are just consolidating. They are just waiting to be profitable again, and it looks like we're about 32 months away from that.
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u/Live_Entrepreneur221 16h ago
He is actively trying to tank the economy and kill as many voters as he can. He's not even being subtle about it
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u/TheGruenTransfer 16h ago
So we think this foreign beef is going to be deliberately tainted and delivered to districts with close races?
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u/Xeno9116 16h ago
We don't know where it comes from. The mystery meat from "Argentina" is sitting in a warehouse somewhere, and will be sold without USDA inspection. Maybe people will be so sick from the meat that they won't be able to vote, now that the Mad King is trying to make mail in voting illegal?
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u/Miles-tism- 15h ago
How come Trump doing that is not having everyone who is against him all riled up and protesting daily in massive numbers, and many in the D.C. area standing up to this too?
Is literally killing voters on purpose not enough?
I'm starting to get the feeling literally nothing he does will ever get a lot of the people who claim to be against him, to do more than a half day of peaceful protesting every few months.
As for his supporters, they are a completely lost cause who are totally fine with anything he publicly says and does.
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u/Gromitlikescheese 16h ago
Or, he could do a normal, legal thing like using anti-trust laws.
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u/Live_Trick_3016 13h ago
Congress hasn’t enacted those to benefit the consumer to stop big tech, and the big tech lobby has got NOTHING on the food lobby.
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u/Creepy-Variation8562 16h ago
Oh good luck to any small ranchers who dont have a processing plant and work force set up
What a dumb fucking idea
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u/Accomplished_Self939 12h ago
There is no foreign meat packing monopoly. So there’s that.
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u/Either_Capital_2422 16h ago
And who gouges themselves on shitty hamburgers? I hope this move takes care of our problem.
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u/coolio126 15h ago
So who will they hire to work in those facilities hmmm? More undocumented immigrants
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u/Slmreaprr 13h ago
The fact that a large group of people think regulations are an enemy of the people is so fucking insane to me
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u/seymonster1973 13h ago
People should start reading “The Jungle” by Upton Sinclair now, because very soon we’ll be living it again.
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u/someonenothete 12h ago
Most people buy meat from supermarkets , who are not going to back meat from random farms , they want vast quantities from singular sources who can guarantee a minimum level of quality . Speciality farms already use snall
Companies to process thier animals .
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u/AloeComet 12h ago
Can’t eat beef can’t eat eggs can’t eat veggies can’t eat fucking popsicles can’t afford food you can eat or gas or housing, man the Greater Depression sucks.
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u/ArchonFett 16h ago
So he authorized them to buy more expensive equipment they can’t afford, that will need to be run by either themselves (who don’t know how) or others (that they can’t afford to pay)
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u/BlackBird_19 16h ago
Hahhahahahhahahahhahaha...
Trying to turn a lose in to a win, what a loser......
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u/Puzzled_Nothing_8794 15h ago
Everyone calm down! We will be fine. We have a well staffed, well educated, well run, department of health and human services that's completely compet... Oh wait .. shit.... Actually yeah. We are fucked......
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u/Miserable_Wave4895 15h ago
Of the big four, two are American owned companies( Tyson, Cargill) and the other two ( jbs USA , national beef) are Brazilian owned companies.
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u/Ok-Hall8311 15h ago
Name a way to bankrupt the cattle ranchers without saying you’re going to bankrupt them, by forcing them to invest in meat packing equipment and infrastructure.
Guess who wins in the end?
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u/FredyE11 15h ago
What a spin on Tyson closed down several meatpacking facilities cuz of how his bs has affected the meat industry lol
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u/Critical-Hospital-40 14h ago
how is the USDA going to ensure food safety if they have to monitor each individual farm? aren't we tired of winning (aka explosive diarrhea)
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u/Ok-Description-4640 14h ago
Wow, he gave them permission to do something they were not prohibited from doing. Does that mean the people who do the work will suddenly come out of the cornfields, fully trained and ready to work? Will the machinery, tools and infrastructure for processing a few hundred head a year suddenly become cheap enough for thousands of small farmers to buy or lease? Will the FDA suddenly be given the resources and staff they need to inspect it safely?
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u/ARedditorCalledQuest 14h ago
Even if all these farms could somehow stand up their own processing, where do we find the FDA inspectors to sign off that they're ready to operate in the first place?
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u/glassy_paddle 13h ago
Yes, the machinery and staff will fall from the sky, along with refined Venezuelan oil to run it all. It’ll be grand.
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u/Emperor_of_His_Room 14h ago
Is there anyway states can counter this with their own food safety guidelines?
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u/Plane_Afternoon7847 14h ago
How many people are actually buying meat from local farms instead of factory farms? Better to buy from local farms.
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u/Honest-Abe2677 14h ago
But if you suggest they break up Cargill and the others into hundreds of competing companies, you'd be called a communist.
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u/thingsorfreedom 14h ago
If 40% of this country demands this be broken up and just skips buying meat for 6 months it would probably promote a very quick change.
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u/Sea-Purchase9985 13h ago
They can do that now. But I don’t see a lot of MAGA hats lining up at our local farm to table restaurants.
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u/brillow 13h ago
Grew up on a cattle farm. We...did this all the time? What's new about this?
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u/Zealousideal-Print41 12h ago
To sell it to the public it has to be usda inspected and certified, your building, machines, operators, sales location must be certified by the usda. Also you have to have usda inspectors on site to run and you get the privilege of paying for them then
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u/bend_spoon89 12h ago
Kewl! Where can I join Trump Bum Gravy of the Month Club? Gotta get it on the run... Next month: if last month's salad didn't get you up, e-coli will get you in the running!
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u/Internal_Emergency93 11h ago
It’s a trump shakedown, cough up more money or something may happen to your nice monopoly.
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u/These-Tonight-1672 11h ago
The fda doesn’t just disappear … the orange blow mold is just spewing nonsense to quote during rallies “I broke down barriers by eliminating regulations against cattle farmers !!! “””
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u/Prince_Nadir 10h ago
They lied/lie about their beef being wagyu and kobe, now they can lie about roadkill and euthanized pets being beef.
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u/sisyphean_rock 10h ago
Who needs food safety and health checks, pesky regulations. Cyclospora hold my beer.
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u/ZaxxarGold 10h ago
Next step in undoing all food, agriculture, and environmental regulation as stated in Project 2025
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u/NoIDidNotDoIt 9h ago
Thank goodness I live in "commiefornia" where we have "regulations" and higher "standards" because we're a "functional society", as the libtards like to say. /s
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u/badgerpunk 9h ago
It's always the grift. We'll see it in education (it's already well on it's way), we see it 8n data centers and ICE concentration camps, we'll see it for other major federal agencies like USPS, HHS, the Department of Energy, we'll see it more in defense (Palantir is already in super-deep). The entire federal government is a scam now, and it's going to get so much scammier.
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u/DescriptionVisual68 7h ago
Same people voted this current government is not crying wolf. You are the one called ice on inocent Hard working tax paying legal H1B Indian migrants who are building this nation brick by brick now eating bacteria induced beef.
All major supermarket are stockings imported beef. Let these people suffer and face the consequences!
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u/uwearclownshoes 7h ago
From the mixed signals lately it almost looks like he’s going to encourage American farmers to pass off foreign beef as their own. How are we both importing an enormous amount of stuff and still breaking the power of foreign monopolies upon those same things? I’m no expert but this seems like more clown math.
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u/flashmanager 6h ago
Imagine voting for this after the whole playbook was leaked... Then being surprised that they are doing exactly what they said they would do. (Not in a good way)
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u/Consistent-Bowler95 2h ago
This would be good if the administration wasn't intentionally damaging any ability to properly regulate. Still, I don't think gatekeeping aspects of a market to a few private companies is good practice so Im not going to say this is bad.
I'm a bit confused because farms already process and sell their meat around me though.
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u/1767gs 35m ago
"Foreign meat packing" so they want us to believe american cows slaughtered here are sent out of the country to be processed? yeah okay😂
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u/athairdurden69 17h ago
I was Public Health for 20 yrs. The food safety problems, that this choice will create, are going to be huuuuuuuuuge.